Finally. After cloes to a year of anticipation

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Originally Posted by Despare

*VERY MINOR SPOILERS*

I was surprised there was as much suspense as there was before they broke into the camp weren't you? I was also worried when Rambo started "working with" the mercs. I thought maybe it would lose the whole "one man army" aspect that you mentioned in your other thread. I was wrong though, Rambo still kicked ten times as much ass as anybody else. Oh, and I did like Schoolboy. I think I'm going to play some COD4 now.

It did have me thinking "wtf?!...he's grouping up mercs!" It was soon wrapped up why though...and of course Rambo was Rambo in the end.:D

[newb]

Originally Posted by Despare

I found Rambo short, to the point, and VERY bloody. There's some building of the story (please don't confuse this with character development) and a lot of cliche dialogue but then you hit the action and it doesn't stop until the end. I haven't seen an action/war movie that good in a while and apart from the aforementioned cliche war movie speeches and a few questionable direction choices by Sly there wasn't much to dislike about Rambo... unless you were expecting Stallone to act. The headshots, the bodies splitting apart, the well executed "camp infiltration" all left me pretty satisfied. Better than 2 & 3 but it doesn't quite make it up to First Blood.

You just sold me on it.

Much like the last Die Hard movie.....you go in expecting a Rambo movie.....nothing more......its all good.

[Roderick Usher]

I just read this review on another site...I'm sold

Remember when Saving Private Ryan came out and people talked about how real the war scenes were? Those war scenes pee the bed when they think about the war scenes in this movie.

brilliant!

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher

I just read this review on another site...I'm sold

Remember when Saving Private Ryan came out and people talked about how real the war scenes were? Those war scenes pee the bed when they think about the war scenes in this movie.

brilliant!

to the T, for the violence.

Besides everything else, it depicts Burma in all its ugliness.

[alkytrio666]

I just saw it. The last twenty minutes were pure action bliss...grizzly violence in true Stallone fashion. However, I'm still not sure that spending the first sixty watching women and children tortured, raped, and murdered, with no sign of Rambo, were worth the wait.

However: "Fuck the world...".
That was golden.

Rambo was pure bloodshed. Gruesome and unrelenting. Children die in fire. Enough said?

I loved the whole flick except for the bad acting but their parts were so minimal it was ok.

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666

I just saw it. The last twenty minutes were pure action bliss...grizzly violence in true Stallone fashion. However, I'm still not sure that spending the first sixty watching women and children tortured, raped, and murdered, with no sign of Rambo, were worth the wait.

Excerpts from Stallone's interview over at IGN :


IGN: Talk about the tone of the film. How much do you mean for the action to be gratifying given the fact that you depict the violence in a very realistic fashion?

Stallone: If you notice over the opening credits, I had to live up to a certain kind of responsibility because people are dying as we're making the film. Therefore, to just have me running through the film doing these extraordinary heroics I thought would demean what they're going through. So they had to have their moment where you see a village that is decimated. That's what happened. As a matter of fact, it's even worse but I said, "I don't know if that other stuff would fly today. I think the audience really wants something that's hard hitting but has a semblance of reality." We went too far in the old days. We got away with murder. "Jump out of a plane? Well, I don't need a parachute. You use mine." And you made it. Somehow you made it. You landed on a convertible roof and you did it. I said no, this time I'm going to really show it and the violence has to be extraordinarily brutal because we see people beheaded on television. How much harder can you get? You cannot water it down, at least I didn't feel. That was a big bone of contention really. The other thing was do you do a film about a caper, like they wanted to have the corrupt CIA guy and he was trying to sell plutonium rods. I said no. The biggest and most interesting crises in the world is the human crises. It never gets boring. Just like Shakespeare. You don't need a gimmick. It's just man against man, just their intolerance of each other.

IGN: Was it hard to bring the movie in at an R rating? Did you want more violence?

Stallone: I couldn't believe it first of all. When babies are being bayoneted and people are getting [killed], I though this will never go. We presented it but I did have a caveat with the MPAA. I said, "Guys, this is happening today. If we're ever going to do something responsible where art has the ability to influence people's awareness, impact the lives of these people, don't dilute it. Don't water it down. It's got to be uncomfortable. It is uncomfortable. It's miserable. It's distasteful. It's horrifying. But if you're not going to do it, don't do the movie. Don't do violence light. It's just wrong. Don't cut away too soon. Just let it sit in. I want people to feel it." To their credit, they allowed this film to be as truthful as it could.

IGN: Did you have to go back and rewatch the previous Rambos to get back into character?

Stallone: Yeah, you know kind of just the ponderousness that comes with aging, the sense of weight, the sense of knowledge, knowing too much, the lack of naivete which happened in my life, sort of set the stage for me. I wanted Rambo to be this heavier, bulkier [guy]. That's why his first line in the movie is pretty negative. He's given up. He has nothing. The other Rambos I felt had a bit too much energy. They were a little too spry. I'm not trying to run myself down but there was much more vanity involved. Tank tops, it was all about body movement rather than just the ferocity and the commitment of what he was doing. This character to me is much more interesting. I like First Blood and I like this one, just like the first Rocky and the last Rocky Balboa. Everything in between was kind of trying to figure out what I should do.

IGN: How do you make Rocky and Rambo relevant today?

Stallone: If I were trying to go after a youth audience and trying to find something hip, using certain music and whatever, I think that would be pretty obvious and be rejected. There's some things that never change and are universal truths. As you get older, they become more and more apparent about how difficult life is and like the speech in Rocky about taking punches and life gives you punches. The young people who would support Rocky more than even people my age I think really enjoy and embrace those kinds of lessons. I think the lesson that is somewhat presented here, that war is hell and there is no winner ever and unfortunately people just have to find it out the hard way, will translate. And eventually after a man takes that journey, a woman takes that journey, you always hope that you can go back home, that there's still some gateway back to peace, peace of mind where you can start to rebuild. That's the only thing I hope works. I think it does work because they're just universal truths that never, ever change. No matter what society is, just everybody wants freedom, everyone wants peace of mind but it comes at a horrible price.

IGN: Any more Rocky movies on the way?

Stallone: No. They talk about Son Of... But no. I got so lucky with the final image of Rocky, the rack focus and the fade. I can't go any further. It was a miracle that it even got done. I'm just glad. That was my finest moment. I was so happy with it. I just wanted to end it on a certain note and was lucky to get that shot.

IGN: Are people surprised by your artistic motivations because the characters are so physical?

Stallone: I don't know if that's quite apparent but I know what you mean, if there isn't some kind of thought behind it, because muscles are easy. Anybody can do muscles. You just go violence, violence, violence, violence, action, action, action. But if you can find those little moments in between that connect to the people that aren't so physical, that's what takes the time and that to me is the challenge and that's what I love about it.

IGN: This definitely feels like more than just an action film.

Stallone: Do you think it's kind of like the reincarnation of The Wild Bunch? Remember how everybody was going along and then all of a sudden you'd have these bloodbaths. It was that part of the movie that actually he didn't sell out. Remember in Bonnie and Clyde, the whole thing, what was the most important thing in the movie? It was the whole [cycle] of death. So I don't know, maybe I'm just on some kind of historical treadmill here.

[Disease]

Originally Posted by GorePhobia

I will most likely see this over the next few weeks when I have the money and time.

When you have the time you may not have the money, but when you have the time you may be broke, it's a two edged sword.

I might go see it, Rambo is a great character, and I haven't seen any of the movies from the series,





























































at the cinema before...

[Psycom5k]

Originally Posted by Disease

When you have the time you may not have the money, but when you have the time you may be broke, it's a two edged sword.

Wouldn't that be a single edged sword? :rolleyes:

I've got the money, but unfortunately no time. I hope to go see it soon.

[Disease]

Originally Posted by Psycom5k

Wouldn't that be a single edged sword? :rolleyes:

I've got the money, but unfortunately no time. I hope to go see it soon.

Not in my twisted world. ;)