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Old 12-20-2004, 07:41 PM
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Great little movie imo but a bad sequal (which is what hurts it). Original story with a good cast. Something we dont get much today
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I head that Carpenter was going to make a new Halloween movie every year and they would all have different themes. I think that would have been an excellent idea because we wouldnt have all these retarded movies about Micheal Myers that make no sense what-so-ever!

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this is exactly right although i don't think all the movies after one and two with michael in them were retarted 4 was good and i think the curse was ok except for the lack of information.
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And given this is 2004 why does anyone still have a drippy hang-up about Myers not being in the film, doing the same old things he would bore us all with in the sequels to come (#4 aside which is actually pretty good).

Plot wise it's got damaging holes...

BUT, the rest is so good these annoyances are pushed away and leave us with a very entertaining an satisfying movie.

A great opening sequence..with the superb Carpenter/Howarth score pounding away nicely. A REALLY NASTY death via eye poking and skull snapping (the sight of the inner bone pushing up againat the nose is wonderfully icky.

Some great Halloween atmosphere as well..especially with the excellent montage of the kid going home to watch the 'give away'.
The Los Angeles (against the City lights) and the Phoenix (a line of kids against the red light of the setting sun) segments are highly effective.
And the ad's (another love or loathe feature) are wonderfully annoying!!

The gore is also expertly done. Burman does a great job with the blood spraying, very painful looking head pulling and the ever so gruesome aftermath of the lasered mouth..all rictus teeth and blood soaked eyes.
the drill death (HEY, IT'S THE 80'S..THE DECADE OF THE DRILL DEATH!!) is also very nasty without actually showing anything.

Performances are ok..I always like Atkin and he deserved a bigger career. His acting while he tries to persuade his Wife (Nancy Loomis from "Halloween") to get rid of the masks is excellent..as is his deflated shock after ripping the robots wire innards out. Top bit of mad screaming at the end as well...An ending that is delightfully evil.

O'Herlihy is a bit hammy (he was in "Twin Peaks" as well) but he's a good villian and his speech about the real meaning of Halloween is nicely dark and creepy.

The nods to Carpenter are fun to.....It's a cheekily wicked idea to have "Halloween" itself as the film that will lead into the 'killer ad's'....the classical music that is playing when the lady gets lasered is the same music that Adrienne Barbeau pays as she drive to the lighthouse....the framing of the shots where Atkins and Nelkin are walking around while being watched are the same as "Halloween", with the half back and shoulders of the robot set up exactly like the scenes of Myers watching Jamie Lee Curtis.

The film also has ideas that now seem very insightful........

The mass coverage of your every move by CCTV is now a welcome and not so welcome reality in every town and city.

And if made now the whole idea of a specific brand name being wanted over 'lesser' makes would be very topical.
The fact is "Silver Shamrock" is 'Adidas' and 'Nike'....Atkin's kids do not want his 'other brand', cheap masks..they want the "Silver Shamrock", masks that are the hip and cool make to have...Oh dear....if only they had gone for Atkin's non brand masks they wouldn't have spiders crawling out their noses!!

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Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Typing in English would help.

And given this is 2004 why does anyone still have a drippy hang-up about Myers not being in the film, doing the same old things he would bore us all with in the sequels to come (#4 aside which is actually pretty good).

Plot wise it's got damaging holes...

BUT, the rest is so good these annoyances are pushed away and leave us with a very entertaining an satisfying movie.

A great opening sequence..with the superb Carpenter/Howarth score pounding away nicely. A REALLY NASTY death via eye poking and skull snapping (the sight of the inner bone pushing up againat the nose is wonderfully icky.

Some great Halloween atmosphere as well..especially with the excellent montage of the kid going home to watch the 'give away'.
The Los Angeles (against the City lights) and the Phoenix (a line of kids against the red light of the setting sun) segments are highly effective.
And the ad's (another love or loathe feature) are wonderfully annoying!!

The gore is also expertly done. Burman does a great job with the blood spraying, very painful looking head pulling and the ever so gruesome aftermath of the lasered mouth..all rictus teeth and blood soaked eyes.
the drill death (HEY, IT'S THE 80'S..THE DECADE OF THE DRILL DEATH!!) is also very nasty without actually showing anything.

Performances are ok..I always like Atkin and he deserved a bigger career. His acting while he tries to persuade his Wife (Nancy Loomis from "Halloween") to get rid of the masks is excellent..as is his deflated shock after ripping the robots wire innards out. Top bit of mad screaming at the end as well...An ending that is delightfully evil.

O'Herlihy is a bit hammy (he was in "Twin Peaks" as well) but he's a good villian and his speech about the real meaning of Halloween is nicely dark and creepy.

The nods to Carpenter are fun to.....It's a cheekily wicked idea to have "Halloween" itself as the film that will lead into the 'killer ad's'....the classical music that is playing when the lady gets lasered is the same music that Adrienne Barbeau pays as she drive to the lighthouse....the framing of the shots where Atkins and Nelkin are walking around while being watched are the same as "Halloween", with the half back and shoulders of the robot set up exactly like the scenes of Myers watching Jamie Lee Curtis.

The film also has ideas that now seem very insightful........

The mass coverage of your every move by CCTV is now a welcome and not so welcome reality in every town and city.

And if made now the whole idea of a specific brand name being wanted over 'lesser' makes would be very topical.
The fact is "Silver Shamrock" is 'Adidas' and 'Nike'....Atkin's kids do not want his 'other brand', cheap masks..they want the "Silver Shamrock", masks that are the hip and cool make to have...Oh dear....if only they had gone for Atkin's non brand masks they wouldn't have spiders crawling out their noses!!

Almost completly thanks to this post, I must rent this movie ASAP
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I think it was a decent movie that should have stood alone not as part of the series.
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my thought exactly
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