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maddocks 12-19-2004 02:30 PM

Halloween 3 the season of the witch
 
ok for all you halloween fans out there, what is up with halloween 3??? halloween is all about michael myers. wivout michale myers halloween wud b nothing. so y wen doin the third instalment choose not 2 include him or ne fin related 2 him????? i thought halloween was a horror movie about a posessed boy goin around killin babysitters not sum1 old rich creep makin halloween masks set 2 wipe out the entire future generation. wot is up wiv that, can sum1 please giv me a reason besides the fact that the producers wanted 2 giv micheal myers a rest and tru sumfin new. wot on gods earth wer they finkin???????

EXTR3MIST 12-19-2004 02:34 PM

Get over the lack of Michael Myers in this film - it was just on TV again the other night and reminded me what an effective horror movie it really is.

No fun and games in this one, just plain head-bursting insects, diabolical machines, creepy robots and a superb soundtrack.

And Tom Atkins is as good here as he was in The Fog.

Elvis_Christ 12-19-2004 03:58 PM

Yeh I agree. It is a good horror movie dispite no Mikey.

42ndStreetFreak 12-19-2004 04:34 PM

Typing in English would help.

And given this is 2004 why does anyone still have a drippy hang-up about Myers not being in the film, doing the same old things he would bore us all with in the sequels to come (#4 aside which is actually pretty good).

Plot wise it's got damaging holes...

BUT, the rest is so good these annoyances are pushed away and leave us with a very entertaining an satisfying movie.

A great opening sequence..with the superb Carpenter/Howarth score pounding away nicely. A REALLY NASTY death via eye poking and skull snapping (the sight of the inner bone pushing up againat the nose is wonderfully icky.

Some great Halloween atmosphere as well..especially with the excellent montage of the kid going home to watch the 'give away'.
The Los Angeles (against the City lights) and the Phoenix (a line of kids against the red light of the setting sun) segments are highly effective.
And the ad's (another love or loathe feature) are wonderfully annoying!!

The gore is also expertly done. Burman does a great job with the blood spraying, very painful looking head pulling and the ever so gruesome aftermath of the lasered mouth..all rictus teeth and blood soaked eyes.
the drill death (HEY, IT'S THE 80'S..THE DECADE OF THE DRILL DEATH!!) is also very nasty without actually showing anything.

Performances are ok..I always like Atkin and he deserved a bigger career. His acting while he tries to persuade his Wife (Nancy Loomis from "Halloween") to get rid of the masks is excellent..as is his deflated shock after ripping the robots wire innards out. Top bit of mad screaming at the end as well...An ending that is delightfully evil.

O'Herlihy is a bit hammy (he was in "Twin Peaks" as well) but he's a good villian and his speech about the real meaning of Halloween is nicely dark and creepy.

The nods to Carpenter are fun to.....It's a cheekily wicked idea to have "Halloween" itself as the film that will lead into the 'killer ad's'....the classical music that is playing when the lady gets lasered is the same music that Adrienne Barbeau pays as she drive to the lighthouse....the framing of the shots where Atkins and Nelkin are walking around while being watched are the same as "Halloween", with the half back and shoulders of the robot set up exactly like the scenes of Myers watching Jamie Lee Curtis.

The film also has ideas that now seem very insightful........

The mass coverage of your every move by CCTV is now a welcome and not so welcome reality in every town and city.

And if made now the whole idea of a specific brand name being wanted over 'lesser' makes would be very topical.
The fact is "Silver Shamrock" is 'Adidas' and 'Nike'....Atkin's kids do not want his 'other brand', cheap masks..they want the "Silver Shamrock", masks that are the hip and cool make to have...Oh dear....if only they had gone for Atkin's non brand masks they wouldn't have spiders crawling out their noses!!

MichaelMyers 12-19-2004 07:40 PM

Nice post.

The STE 12-19-2004 09:17 PM

My problem with the movie has nothing to do with Michael not being in the movie. My problem is that the movie is horribly acted, the plot isn't even close to being coherent, and the end makes no sense. What possible reason would TV have to pull the commercials on 2 channels and not on the one?

Plus, the main character looks like Tom Selek (sp?) with slices of ham glued to his face

1beastieibe 12-19-2004 10:39 PM

I love Halloween 3 it's just a fun movie....I think it only got a bad rap because people were expecting Michael Myers to be in it and feel ripped off

I head that Carpenter was going to make a new Halloween movie every year and they would all have different themes. I think that would have been an excellent idea because we wouldnt have all these retarded movies about Micheal Myers that make no sense what-so-ever!


They could have brought Michael back in maybe 5 or 6 movies down the line but I would have loved to have a different movie to look forward to every year other then the same tiresome thing over and over and over ect.....

urgeok 12-20-2004 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 42ndStreetFreak
Typing in English would help.

And given this is 2004 why does anyone still have a drippy hang-up about Myers not being in the film, doing the same old things he would bore us all with in the sequels to come (#4 aside which is actually pretty good).

Plot wise it's got damaging holes...

BUT, the rest is so good these annoyances are pushed away and leave us with a very entertaining an satisfying movie.

A great opening sequence..with the superb Carpenter/Howarth score pounding away nicely. A REALLY NASTY death via eye poking and skull snapping (the sight of the inner bone pushing up againat the nose is wonderfully icky.

Some great Halloween atmosphere as well..especially with the excellent montage of the kid going home to watch the 'give away'.
The Los Angeles (against the City lights) and the Phoenix (a line of kids against the red light of the setting sun) segments are highly effective.
And the ad's (another love or loathe feature) are wonderfully annoying!!

The gore is also expertly done. Burman does a great job with the blood spraying, very painful looking head pulling and the ever so gruesome aftermath of the lasered mouth..all rictus teeth and blood soaked eyes.
the drill death (HEY, IT'S THE 80'S..THE DECADE OF THE DRILL DEATH!!) is also very nasty without actually showing anything.

Performances are ok..I always like Atkin and he deserved a bigger career. His acting while he tries to persuade his Wife (Nancy Loomis from "Halloween") to get rid of the masks is excellent..as is his deflated shock after ripping the robots wire innards out. Top bit of mad screaming at the end as well...An ending that is delightfully evil.

O'Herlihy is a bit hammy (he was in "Twin Peaks" as well) but he's a good villian and his speech about the real meaning of Halloween is nicely dark and creepy.

The nods to Carpenter are fun to.....It's a cheekily wicked idea to have "Halloween" itself as the film that will lead into the 'killer ad's'....the classical music that is playing when the lady gets lasered is the same music that Adrienne Barbeau pays as she drive to the lighthouse....the framing of the shots where Atkins and Nelkin are walking around while being watched are the same as "Halloween", with the half back and shoulders of the robot set up exactly like the scenes of Myers watching Jamie Lee Curtis.

The film also has ideas that now seem very insightful........

The mass coverage of your every move by CCTV is now a welcome and not so welcome reality in every town and city.

And if made now the whole idea of a specific brand name being wanted over 'lesser' makes would be very topical.
The fact is "Silver Shamrock" is 'Adidas' and 'Nike'....Atkin's kids do not want his 'other brand', cheap masks..they want the "Silver Shamrock", masks that are the hip and cool make to have...Oh dear....if only they had gone for Atkin's non brand masks they wouldn't have spiders crawling out their noses!!


i've always enjoyed the film .. and this posts pretty sums up why .. especially the performance by Atkins.

I never drew the adidas/nike lines though ..

TheOmen 12-20-2004 10:33 AM

I didn't like it when it first came out. But then again, I was 10, expecting Michael Myers. Now that I watched it again, it's not bad.

I can say it's the only movie that me remember a song for over 20 years, so that's something.

allmykids 12-20-2004 03:55 PM

I liked it but it should have had another name.


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