Simple curiosity poll

[Jake.Ashworth]

Originally Posted by TheBossInTheWall

I'm bowing out of this discussion guys. Its become too intense and serious. I'm here to enjoy talking about horror with sometimes other genres of film/books/games, I don't want this discussion to bleed into/color each of us in conversing in other parts of the forums. Let's let it go and move on? :)

I very much appreciate that. And I still love you!

Originally Posted by MichaelMyers

I take your point. Third gender might lead to fourth gender, fifth, sixth, seventh, eight genders ad infinitum. But is social confusion OK if it helps the psychologically disturbed feel better?

Making the psychologically disturbed feel better does not make them better. If anything it makes them worse by allowing their confusion to become the norm. If you think that your a fifth gender, then maybe we need to look into the seated issue that isn't allowing you to settle on male or female. Maybe instead of saying cool, you can be your own thing and then sue anyone who tells you different and force colleges to put a circle that says "fifth gender" on their applications so you don't feel left out, maybe we say "Look, we understand that you don't quite know how to feel, lets talk through it and figure out what's going on."

[MichaelMyers]

Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth

Making the psychologically disturbed feel better does not make them better.

I think I see the reasoning Jake: a very fat person may "feel" better from eating 2 dozen chocolate donuts and vats of deep-fried chicken, but they do not "become" better.

If anything it makes them worse by allowing their confusion to become the norm. If you think that your a fifth gender, then maybe we need to look into the seated issue that isn't allowing you to settle on male or female. Maybe instead of saying cool, you can be your own thing and then sue anyone who tells you different and force colleges to put a circle that says "fifth gender" on their applications so you don't feel left out, maybe we say "Look, we understand that you don't quite know how to feel, lets talk through it and figure out what's going on."

What to do if those who are diseased do not think they are? What if they think *you* are the abnormal. Then this becomes something that can't be talked through.

[Jake.Ashworth]

Originally Posted by MichaelMyers

I think I see the reasoning Jake: a very fat person may "feel" better from eating 2 dozen chocolate donuts and vats of deep-fried chicken, but they do not "become" better.

Exactly!

What to do if those who are diseased do not think they are? What if they think *you* are the abnormal. Then this becomes something that can't be talked through.

I can definitely see that, but to most people who are "confused" about something, the offer of help figuring out what is confusing them would be welcomed. But of course there is always the possibility that things cant be talked through. I think instead of pandering to those few people who are confused and changing the accepted social structure to bend it around a handful of people, we should just go on taking care of business the way we have. To be honest, it offends me that there are so many easily offended people in the world. I mean, really, its going to get to the point where we are going to have to start offering Klingon on applications and as a second language. As a matter of fact I would bet there are more people who want to be Klingon than there are who believe they are the opposite sex.

[MovieLover12]

Originally Posted by cheebacheeba

I have a penis, and testicles, and the two work together to ejaculate semen.

Give this guy a medal!

[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by MichaelMyers

Sculpt I think I get it. An invading spirit is whispering and planting these suggestions in the brain? Is that it?

Well actually, MM, I was hoping to get a bunch of other people's opinions.

I'm a social scientist, we care a lot about what other people think and why and how they came to that conclusion. I, for one, ultimately come to my own conclusions, often just the "best certainties" at this time (as opposed to assuming something is absolutely correct for all time.)

The way you worded your answer, it sounds like you're telling me what you think it is that I think. Is that right? If so, what do you think? Or what do you think are some of the possibilities?

What do all of you think about this (below question)?

If one thinks they are a different gender, than their body, what is doing the disagreeing?

The brain is the body. What's disagreeing?

[The Bloofer Lady]

Basic instinct. That's what's disagreeing. A person's basic instinct kicks in and says I'm sexually attracted to and can love a man/woman etc. I don't really care about this kind of stuff, kids. Give me a good movie, a glass of wine and my own thoughts and I'm quite happy. I don't even believe in "True Love". Meh, could just be my age though.

[TheBossInTheWall]

Originally Posted by The Bloofer Lady

Basic instinct. That's what's disagreeing. A person's basic instinct kicks in and says I'm sexually attracted to and can love a man/woman etc. I don't really care about this kind of stuff, kids. Give me a good movie, a glass of wine and my own thoughts and I'm quite happy. I don't even believe in "True Love". Meh, could just be my age though.

I believe in true love, its for other people. :P

[Martha]

Originally Posted by The Bloofer Lady

Basic instinct. That's what's disagreeing. A person's basic instinct kicks in and says I'm sexually attracted to and can love a man/woman etc. I don't really care about this kind of stuff, kids. Give me a good movie, a glass of wine and my own thoughts and I'm quite happy. I don't even believe in "True Love". Meh, could just be my age though.

I just an older woman who likes a good glass of wine, lots of good movies and my own thoughts .

Like The Bloofer Lady says then I am quite happy.

Past the age to worry! But I do like to make myself attractive though! I do have a nice pair of legs!

A few looks or maybe a whistle or two isn't bad either!

Oh well!

[MichaelMyers]

Originally Posted by Sculpt

Well actually, MM, I was hoping to get a bunch of other people's opinions.

I'm a social scientist, we care a lot about what other people think and why and how they came to that conclusion. I, for one, ultimately come to my own conclusions, often just the "best certainties" at this time (as opposed to assuming something is absolutely correct for all time.)

The way you worded your answer, it sounds like you're telling me what you think it is that I think. Is that right? If so, what do you think? Or what do you think are some of the possibilities?

What do all of you think about this (below question)?

I am not ready to sign on to the implication that deviant behavior is the result of a succubus. BUT I am not ready to rule it out either.

[Roiffalo]

Originally Posted by TheBossInTheWall

I'm bowing out of this discussion guys. Its become too intense and serious. I'm here to enjoy talking about horror with sometimes other genres of film/books/games, I don't want this discussion to bleed into/color each of us in conversing in other parts of the forums. Let's let it go and move on? :)

Should've seen it comin', Boss. Wanna go two for two and start a topic on sexual orientation?