The Gay Thread

[urgeok2]

well, since the recent coming out party - there has been a common subject running through most of the threads ... so why not beat that dead horse right here.

seems like people have a ton of thoughts that are popping out here and there ... we might as well get them all in one place ... lets see what the general consensus is.

Personally - when i was born - my mother had a gay best friend (this is the 50's) and he was my godfather.
All i knew from seeing him was that he was a nice guy. Met one of his partners once and he ga=ve me stamps from his home country (jugoslavia) which i thought was pretty cool.

So it wasnt a matter of tolerance - there was simply no question of it being something we had to 'tolerate' - it just was.

pretty much lived my life that way and we're raising my son that way as well.
My wife is of the same mind as myself.

I've met a lot of gay men through my life - most were as i mentioned in a previous post - very articulate, cultured, intelligent men. None were the flaming effeminate queens portrayed in films ... they were just guys with a great sense of style, well groomed, polite, etc.

I know it's crazy to assume all gay men are like this - it's practically another stereotype - but this has been my personal experience.

I have known of the flaming queen types and i dont care for them... anymore than i care for any show of phoniness or overt cliched sexuality. (that goes for ginos, bimbos, or anything else in that vein)
People using gayness as a way to make themselves more interesting isnt cool with most other gays anymore than it is with anyone with a brain.
(no this isnt a shot at you Posher - i know you're just enjoying the release - i expect it will become a non issue for even you before long)

I dont like homophobes. they are in the same class as sexist assholes and racists.... people with hateful opinions based on 100% pure unadulterated ignorance. people content to live in unenlightened dark ages - who are terrified by anything they dont understand.

most homophobic males are usually overcompensating for their own shakey sexuality. for some its a religious thing. either way - i think it's childish and dangerous. who you love is who you love. it shouldnt be gender specific if you intellectualize it. our genetic predisposition to breeding - the continuation of our species is the first primal decree most of us follow ... but other factors - nature or nurture - or both - can take over after that.

anyway - more rambling ...

anyone else want a say ?

[Despare]

Well said Urge, although I do feel people have a right to be racist, hateful, homophobic, and sexist. I don't have to agree, like, or listen to those people but they can feel however they like.

[skyblue342]

Well i already wrote this but i'll write it again. I'm bisexaul i chose to get married to my wife because we had a child and she was my best friend (still is) my brothers gay hes getting married pretty soon to his boyfriend marc. I grew up around gay people my mother had alot of friends and i was exposed to it for along time.

[urgeok2]

Well said Urge, although I do feel people have a right to be racist, hateful, homophobic, and sexist. I don't have to agree, like, or listen to those people but they can feel however they like.


yeah - its true - they can - i just get sick of tired of hearing it.



one thing a lot of people never take into consideration - is that just because you're a straight, white male, it doesnt mean i want to hear sexist, homophobic, racist garbage ... but i do - directly - all the time because some dick head assumes i'll be cool with it.

[Angra]

1 thing.

I like gay people, as long as they're not making a pass on me.

You can call that homophobic, i don't care.

[ferretchucker]

The thing that annoys me is that racists, sexists and homophobics choose to be those things. A persons Race, sex or Sexuality isn't their choice. I think discriminating someone for something they can't change is despicable, though as Despare said, they have a right to their opinions. I think I'd rather they didn't voice them though. Because the second something leaves the persons mouth, they can't take it back and it effects those who heard it.

[Despare]

1 thing.

I like gay people, as long as they're not making a pass on me.

You can call that homophobic, i don't care.

People always say that and guess what... it NEVER happens. I'd be taken aback by it too but I don't expect to ever happen within my lifetime.

Oh, and Ferret, what about skyblue? He's bi so his sexuality is a choice, he's just attracted to people right?

[urgeok2]

1 thing.

I like gay people, as long as they're not making a pass on me.

You can call that homophobic, i don't care.


it might help you have some understanding to some extent if you've ever made an unwanted pass at a female.

[skyblue342]

The thing that annoys me is that racists, sexists and homophobics choose to be those things. A persons Race, sex or Sexuality isn't their choice. I think discriminating someone for something they can't change is despicable, though as Despare said, they have a right to their opinions. I think I'd rather they didn't voice them though. Because the second something leaves the persons mouth, they can't take it back and it effects those who heard it.

Wow i totally agree for real!

[Angra]

it might help you have some understanding to some extent if you've ever made an unwanted pass at a female.

Never a gay female no.

[urgeok2]

People always say that and guess what... it NEVER happens. I'd be taken aback by it too but I don't expect to ever happen within my lifetime.

me either ... either i'm so damn disgusting i wouldnt have a chance with either sex .. or most gay men only hit on who they think would be other gay men.

i dont think 'the challenge' is worth the risk they'd face even in these 'enlightened' times

[ferretchucker]

Wow i totally agree for real!

Thanks.


As for what other people were saying, I think that's a negative stereotype. But Angra, you are one of many who feel that way. I would be so incredibly surprised if that happened. Think how much shit gay people get. They wouldn't exacerbate it by coming onto someone who was straight. And how is it any different to a girl you don't really like coming onto you?

[Angra]

Thanks.


As for what other people were saying, I think that's a negative stereotype. But Angra, you are one of many who feel that way. I would be so incredibly surprised if that happened. Think how much shit gay people get. They wouldn't exacerbate it by coming onto someone who was straight. And how is it any different to a girl you don't really like coming onto you?


It would be VERY different.

The beard is one thing..... Trust me, i know...

[skyblue342]

When i was 17 i went to this little highschool party and there was of course alcohol present. I remember flirting with this guy who seemed interested in me (i didnt flirt til i thought he liked me first) then all of a sudden he invited me to go walking with him we went up the road a good bit then we went by this old crappy barn where he began to beat the crap out of me. He called me a faggot and said faggots should die. I'll never forget it it was the worst night of my life. People like him have no heart.

[Angra]

When i was 17 i went to this little highschool party and there was of course alcohol present. I remember flirting with this guy who seemed interested in me (i didnt flirt til i thought he liked me first) then all of a sudden he invited me to go walking with him we went up the road a good bit then we went by this old crappy barn where he began to beat the crap out of me. He called me a faggot and said faggots should die. I'll never forget it it was the worst night of my life. People like him have no heart.


Well, I'm not THAT much an asshole.

But, sorry to hear about your past.

[jenna26]

They wouldn't exacerbate it by coming onto someone who was straight.

My brother has always had a ridiculous amount of attention from members of BOTH sexes...haha...he has always handled it very well. Though that might be because he is mostly clueless. But it has always amused me (and no this isn't a shot at you Angra, just in general) when I hear men totally freaked out by the idea of another man hitting on them, when I have seen them rather aggressively pursue women who have NO interest in them, at all. To me, there is no difference....you say no, I am not interested. That's all. It should be the end of it, if its not, than that is not a gay or straight issue.

This has never been an issue for me, at all. My mother managed a bookstore for years, most of the men that worked with her were gay men (so much so that one of the few straight men that worked for her felt it necessary to introduce that into every conversation, which was just a TAD childish, in my opinion....:rolleyes: ). It didn't make a difference to me. People are people to me. Sexuality, race, religious beliefs, whatever may be different from me, doesn't matter a bit, I look at who the person is, and if they are trying to live their life right for them, and not looking to hurt anyone else, then I'm fine with that. And just like people are people, love is love, its not defined only one way to me.

[Papillon Noir]

When i was 17 i went to this little highschool party and there was of course alcohol present. I remember flirting with this guy who seemed interested in me (i didnt flirt til i thought he liked me first) then all of a sudden he invited me to go walking with him we went up the road a good bit then we went by this old crappy barn where he began to beat the crap out of me. He called me a faggot and said faggots should die. I'll never forget it it was the worst night of my life. People like him have no heart.

That's terrible. :( I'm sorry that happened to you.

I never understood what the big deal was with being gay/bi, but some straight people has this fear over it. Seriously, what do they think is going to happen? the Apocalypse?

I've had some gay/bi friends over the years, my boss is gay, and even dated a guy who was bi. They are people just like everyone else and everyone deserves the same rights and privileges.

[skyblue342]

That's terrible. :( I'm sorry that happened to you.

I never understood what the big deal was with being gay/bi, but some straight people has this fear over it. Seriously, what do they think is going to happen? the Apocalypse?

I've had some gay/bi friends over the years, my boss is gay, and even dated a guy who was bi. They are people just like everyone else and everyone deserves the same rights and privileges.

I totally agree with you. I mean because of that incident my mom flipped out and took me out of school i couldnt even graduate with my class. worst of all since i cant talk flirting was really hard for me he knew sign language and we flirted like that and also just body language and he still beat the crap out of me. So he pretty much started the whole thing just because he hated gays That to me is someone who is probably in prison now for murder haha.

[jenna26]

When i was 17 i went to this little highschool party and there was of course alcohol present. I remember flirting with this guy who seemed interested in me (i didnt flirt til i thought he liked me first) then all of a sudden he invited me to go walking with him we went up the road a good bit then we went by this old crappy barn where he began to beat the crap out of me. He called me a faggot and said faggots should die. I'll never forget it it was the worst night of my life. People like him have no heart.

That's just awful, I'm sorry.

[Papillon Noir]

I totally agree with you. I mean because of that incident my mom flipped out and took me out of school i couldnt even graduate with my class. worst of all since i cant talk flirting was really hard for me he knew sign language and we flirted like that and also just body language and he still beat the crap out of me. So he pretty much started the whole thing just because he hated gays That to me is someone who is probably in prison now for murder haha.

He's probably gay himself and just can't admit it! I think people often hurt others because they can't deal with their own insecurities. The don't want to punish themselves so they punish others.

[skyblue342]

He's probably gay himself and just can't admit it! I think people often hurt others because they can't deal with their own insecurities. The don't want to punish themselves so they punish others.

Thats what i thought to. Especially since he came on to me you know?

[Angra]

He's probably gay himself and just can't admit it! I think people often hurt others because they can't deal with their own insecurities. The don't want to punish themselves so they punish others.


Agreed.

Those kind of people should be locked up for good,

[Papillon Noir]

Thats what i thought to. Especially since he came on to me you know?

It reminds me of the opening scene to The Rules of Attraction, it's very similar to what happened to you.


@Angra

Totally. :cool:

[hellfire1]

It reminds me of the opening scene to The Rules of Attraction, it's very similar to what happened to you.



He probably became a raging queen and told everyone that it was skyblue who couldn't get it up.

[Roderick Usher]

I get hit on all the time. It's usually just something I laugh at, but sometimes the pursuers can be a bit aggressive and that's when it's no longer cool. Some people just won't leave me alone even when I say that I'm into the ladies.

It was really obnoxious when I was bartending in Hollywood. Gay men are, across the board, the best tippers on the planet, so I never said boo about my sexuality at work unless someone flat-out asked me. I'd usually just say "sorry, I'm taken" and leave them guessing. But when they start grabbing ass and not taking no for an answer (drunk male behavior regardless of sexuality) I've been know to get a little mean - and then people have the gaul to call me homophobic.

I've worked on Broadway in musical theater and I used to live around Dupont Circle in Washington D.C. - so I've been up to my neck in gay for a long time and I guess my acceptance of it has reached such a level that I give off a gay vibe... at least to the men who are looking to score.

And I'm not quite certain, but one of my sons is has been giving some pretty strong gay indicators, which is going to be really wierd and funny to watch unfold. Puberty is an awkward time for anyone. I'm sure his will be particularly entertaining to observe.

[Angra]

I get hit on all the time. It's usually just something I luagh at, but sometimes the pursuers can be a bit aggressive and that's when it's no longer cool. Some people just won't leave me alone even when I say that I'm into the ladies.

It was really obnoxious when I was bartending in Hollywood. Gay men are, across the board, the best tippers on the planet, so I never said boo about my sexuality at work unless someone flat-out asked me. I'd usually just say "sorry, I'm taken" and leave them guessing.

I also worked on Broadway in musical theater and I used to live around Dupont Circle in Washington D.C. - so I've been up to my neck in gay for a long time and I guess my acceptance of it has reached such a level that I give off a gay vibe... at least to the men who are looking to score.

And I'm not quite certain, but one of my sons is has been giving some pretty gay indicators, which is going to be really wierd and funny to watch unfold. Puberty is an awkward time for anyone. I'm sure his will be particularly entertaining to observe.


One of your sons??

I thought you only had 1?

How many do u have and how old are they?

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

when I hear men totally freaked out by the idea of another man hitting on them, when I have seen them rather aggressively pursue women who have NO interest in them, at all.

haha yes

I would LOVE to be able to put myself in their heads, I want to know the thought process going into this.

[Roderick Usher]

One of your sons??

I thought you only had 1?

How many do u have and how old are they?

I have two sons, 5 and 11

[Angra]

I have two sons, 5 and 11


Oh. How great.

Lets just see how it goes. I remember to have done some very gay things when i was just about 5, so.... So much for signs.

[Roderick Usher]

Oh. How great.

Lets just see how it goes. I remember to have done some very gay things when i was just about 5, so.... So much for signs.

Wether he's gay of straight makes no difference to me, but I do find the idea of raising a gay son to be quite entertaining. Either way, he's gonna have his pick of either sex. Hell, they both will. Good thing they both got their mother's looks.

[ferretchucker]

- Skyblue

I had no idea you were deaf! Has it been all of your life or not?

-Rod

I wouldn't bet on it yet. Most of my friends and family did and still do think I may be gay. I'm just quite...flamboyant. But I suppose, from what you said, you have been around more gay people than I. What are these signs?

[Angra]

Wether he's gay of straight makes no difference to me, but I do find the idea of raising a gay son to be quite entertaining. Either way, he's gonna have his pick of either sex. Hell, they both will. Good thing they both got their mother's looks.


Maybe they don't have to pick.

Maybe it's totally normal in 2015 to be bi-sexual. Hell, the metrosexuals started out only a few years ago. We're only halfway there.

[Angra]

Most of my friends and family did and still do think I may be gay.


Hahahaha

So do mine. :p

Funny as hell.

Got to be because i'm such a bad casanova.

[Roderick Usher]

-- What are these signs?

he's obsessed with Hedwig and Frank Furter, he loves musicals, he is the same size shoe as his mother so he wears her shoes around quite frequently, he loves the way tights feel, he wears a LOT of purple and takes a great deal of pride in being different from everyone, he thinks my gay friends are soooo cool

he has other interests which are sexuality neutral (skateboarding, playing bass in his band THE ATOMIC BOMBS, horror films) but he avoids typical "boy" activities like team sports, scouting, etc

like I said before. it's no big deal to me, and I won't be disappionted if he turns out straight, it's just interesting to watch the development.

[hellfire1]

- Skyblue

I had no idea you were deaf! Has it been all of your life or not?




He was born without a voice box. Don't believe he said he was deaf.

[ferretchucker]

Oh, fair enough. I thought that he meant he was deaf and so didn't learn to speak. My mistake.

[newb]

IS THIS THE OFFICIAL GAY THREAD?

http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/richard_simmons.jpg


Seriously....I don't see how ANYBODY'S sexual preference should matter to another. People just gots to mind there own fucking business.

I'm actually a little pissed off that I've never been hit on by a gay man.:mad:

WHATS THE MATTER GAY MEN OF THE WORLD....NEWB NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YA.

[Angra]

IS THIS THE OFFICIAL GAY THREAD?

http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/richard_simmons.jpg


Seriously....I don't see how ANYBODY'S sexual preference should matter to another. People just gots to mind there own fucking business.

I'm actually a little pissed off that I've never been hit on by a gay man.:mad:

WHATS THE MATTER GAY MEN OF THE WORLD....NEWB NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YA.



Probably because you not swing like that guy in your pic. ;)

[Dude Guadalupe]

WHATS THE MATTER GAY MEN OF THE WORLD....NEWB NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YA.

I feel your pain.

I'm often mistaken for gay, but I never get hit on by guys.

What the hell? I'm fucking hot!

[Phalanx]

Anyone who
a: Wears alternative sexuality like a fashion, male or female...
b: Uses the "gay accent"
c: Knows I'm not, and their actions/attempts show that they don't respect that, I mean there's a difference between a compliment, (hell sometimes it's nice to be admired) and stepping over the line with actions.
d: Uses bad experiences of the past to turn them "against" on particular sex, this one's mainly the girls
...piss me off...

Other than, gay folks are fine - can't say I've got any gay friends personally as most of them within my age group around here are heavily into the club culture, which I am not.
Religions/family that try to tell people how wrong/evil they are, that's pretty fucked up too, to throw that onto a person who's maybe already pretty confused about things and/or worried about their perception, it not a nice act.

[ChronoGrl]

Women are fucking hot.

Men are fucking hot.

I'd do either - both, one on one or at the same time (and have).

The human body has a nearly infinite way of inducing pleasure of being pleasured, regardless of whether or not it's male or female or a combination of both. We need to get over our puritanical fears of sexuality in general. I guess I've never understood homophobia because I find it incredibly self righteous and ignorant. Sexuality does not define a person and sexuality shouldn't be so contentious. I HATE homophobes. Ignorant fucks.

That being said, I have a difficult time understanding monosexuality. What's the point if you don't explore all of your options? But hey - to each their own. Don't fuck with people for who they're fucking.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PYR/PP30825~Kiss-by-Tanya-Chalkin-Posters.jpg


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/08/06/nyregion/06kiss.2_span.jpg


http://www.positiveliberty.com/uploaded_images/kiss-743428.jpg

[Despare]

That being said, I have a difficult time understanding monosexuality.

That's an easy on to answer. The thought of my dick touching another man does not appeal to me.

[ChronoGrl]

That's an easy on to answer. The thought of my dick touching another man does not appeal to me.

Incidentally, the thought of your dick touching another man's dick - Totally hot to me. ;)

[Despare]

Incidentally, the thought of your dick touching another man's dick - Totally hot to me. ;)

I don't like fencing.

[ChronoGrl]

I don't like fencing.

LOL

Nice.

[hellfire1]

Incidentally, the thought of your dick touching another man's dick - Totally hot to me. ;)




Not just to you. ;)

[The Flayed One]

I have tons of gay and bi friends, both male and female. It astounds me sometimes about how much some people seem to care about who others are fucking. As long as you're not fucking children or raping anyone, do whomever you want.

I've been hit on by several gay men. For the most part, I find it flattering. I think the only real incident I've had where I had to be stern is when I let one guy kiss me on the cheek, and then he tried for a feel and the lips. I laughed and pushed him away, but he tried to persist. I politely told him he was drunk and that was the end of it.

I mean, come on. If you've got your panties so far up your ass that you're trying to keep someone from screwing someone else because of their gender, you need to spend more time trying to get laid yourself.

[fortunato]

The miserable, ignorant people in this world will always need to find some poor group of people to condemn, persecute, and/or blame for things.

It's sad, it's disgusting, and it's unfair.

Personally, I'm not gay. But to me someone's sexuality is as important as the color of their hair, or how tall they are, or whatever.

It's sad that it's such a taboo subject.
Get over it, world. People are different. Wouldn't it just be awful if we weren't?

[The Flayed One]

But to me someone's sexuality is as important as the color of their hair, or how tall they are, or whatever.

I love them redheads!

http://phillyimprov.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/wooderson.jpg

[fortunato]

I love them redheads!

http://phillyimprov.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/wooderson.jpg

Haha,

"That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age."

[missmacabre]

I think sexuality is all about love and there is nothing to say that you can't love someone of the same sex.

That said, I love my boyfriend and consider myself straight. For me it will never be the physical attributes of a person that gets me into bed with them. There's just no attraction there without the feelings. I also know not everyone thinks like I do, but that's just my own interpretation of bisexuality.

I have a few bi friends, both male and female. One of my best friends has two Moms. They are both very cool and I love being around them.

I have also dated two guys who are gay and didn't feel like telling me until about a year into the relationship. It made me feel pretty shitty in both cases. I'm still unsure if I turn guys gay, or if I just had a habit of getting involved with guys who tell me what they think I want to hear. I'm not saying that the fact that those people were less than trustworthy had anything to do with their sexulaity. It's just not fun.

[Skunner]

Meh, I couldn't careless what your sexuality is. Just don't hit on me is pretty much all I care about.

I don't care if it's in a joking manner, I can take a joke, but if it's serious, then we'll have problems. But that's really moreso in person.

I just generally don't care what people do with their lives, aslong as it doesn't involve me.

But I do disagree with Proposition 8. It's stupid, and if gays want to get married, let them. It's not effecting anyone else, it's not degrading marriage or bringing the value of marriage down, because straight people have done enough damage to it already.

But the parades do annoy me. Yeah, you're gay, we get it, move on, who cares, not me. No reason for a parade.

[bwind22]

http://www.forumspile.com/Thread-Gay-Disturbing.jpg

I've known some gay guys and lots of bi and gay chicks in my years, some close friends of mine.

It's not really anyone else's business where someone likes to stick their dick or which holes they like to lick. The people that would insult, or worse assault, someone based on that are absolutely no different than racists.

That being said, I personally believe homosexuality is a choice the individual makes and not something genetic. *shrug* I don't judge anyone for that choice, but I do believe it was a conscious decision at some point in the persons life based purely on the fact that if it was genetic, evolution would have probably eliminated the "gay gene".

I've never been hit on by any gay guys and I'm thinking it's because I put off too much of a straight vibe. If anyone's ever been to West Hollywood (I know Rod has), it's quite gay. Lots of gay bars and shops up and down Santa Monica. I have friends that live out there and when we go visit, we usually end up walking through "boys town" on our way to the bars. In Cali, there's no smoking in the bars so all of these places have hundreds of gay guys standing out front smoking and we walk right down the sidewalk through them. This has happened at least a half dozen times and never once has any of them said word one to me (although they generally assume my wife and her friend are lesbians.) It could be that they simply don't find me attractive, but I like to believe that my skated up shoes, sagging khakis, two day old stubble and disctinct lack of metrosexuality is a dead giveaway that I'm straight to them. I think most gay guys have a pretty good Straightdar (The opposite of Gaydar.) and can tell if a person is straight or gay based on appearance.

*Shrug*

Anyway....

http://www.hegemonyofnorrath.org/albums/EQ-Screenshots/GAY_THREAD.jpg

[Deep4est]

I usually try to stay away from controversial issues but since my wife and I had a close friend who died from HIV back in the late 90's, I thought I'd weigh in. BTW he was gay. His name was Brett and he was a brilliant local Playwright who passed before his time.

A person's gender or sexual preference was never an issue during our friendship. I am of the mindset that what goes on in someone's bedroom is their own business. Having said that, what does concern me is no matter what your lifestyle is, it's OK just don't push it on me or my family. Just as I'm Roman Catholic, I never try to push my beliefs on someone who lets say believes in Buddha or Mohammad.

Lets face it. There are good, decent and well respected gays as there are good, decent straights. There are also the opposite in each group. A good example is the issue of same sex marriage in California where the people spoke and voted against SSM. I had no problem with gay activists protesting until the protesting became violent. The Mormon Church was targeted and swastikas were painted on the building. This was done because of the church's doctrine forbids homosexuality.

The gay movement has always believed in Tolerance. lately that message has been lost because the ranks have been infiltrated by radicals who want nothing more than to create disruption and dissent. The majority of gays in the country are appalled by what's going on and are realizing this behavior will do nothing less than setting them back.

The bottom line for me is I'm OK with Civil Unions between same sex partners with the same civil rights as I enjoy, but disagree on same sex marriage outside that of one man and one woman as what my religion so dictates. The key here is, If I met a gay couple who were married in Mass. or Ct. I would treat them as I would anyone else as long as they treated me the same.

If the SSM issue were to come to a vote in my state I would vote against it. If the issue passed I would respect the voice of the people.

[urgeok2]

IThe gay movement has always believed in Tolerance. lately that message has been lost because the ranks have been infiltrated by radicals who want nothing more than to create disruption and dissent. .

all i can say to this is that i dont think too many men have been beaten up for being straight by a bunch of gay men.

the reverse ???


just like any other unfortunate social injustice - sometimes the pendulum has to swing pretty far the other way until it finds the balance.

[urgeok2]

Women are fucking hot.

Men are fucking hot.

I'd do either - both, one on one or at the same time (and have).





so ... how does living in canada grab you ?


or should i wait until summer to ask again ?

[La Chat Noire]

I'm flattered when women hit on me. I don't understand why people would be offended because someone shows an interest in them. It's a compliment.

[Skunner]

I'm flattered when women hit on me. I don't understand why people would be offended because someone shows an interest in them. It's a compliment.
It can be complimentory because gay men are picky as fuck. But I'd be pretty uncomfortable due to a horrible past experience.

[skyblue342]

I'm flattered when women hit on me. I don't understand why people would be offended because someone shows an interest in them. It's a compliment.

I agree with you 100%. I still like guys alot but i had to mellow out b.c i have children now with a woman i do love a whole lot. You cant change who you are though. I'll always be bisexual and think of men as attractive.

[skyblue342]

I think sexuality is all about love and there is nothing to say that you can't love someone of the same sex.

That said, I love my boyfriend and consider myself straight. For me it will never be the physical attributes of a person that gets me into bed with them. There's just no attraction there without the feelings. I also know not everyone thinks like I do, but that's just my own interpretation of bisexuality.

I have a few bi friends, both male and female. One of my best friends has two Moms. They are both very cool and I love being around them.

I have also dated two guys who are gay and didn't feel like telling me until about a year into the relationship. It made me feel pretty shitty in both cases. I'm still unsure if I turn guys gay, or if I just had a habit of getting involved with guys who tell me what they think I want to hear. I'm not saying that the fact that those people were less than trustworthy had anything to do with their sexulaity. It's just not fun.


Im sorry about the jerks that didnt tell you they were gay until that long into the relationship :mad: those type of people just suck. Im sure its not you that turns any man gay though. Some people just dont realize it until they try it with a person of the opposite sex. It sucks though that they didnt even consider your feelings!

[stubbornforgey]

Well ...in my opinion..
i truly don't care what people are..neither do i give thier sexual preferences
a second thought.
Em not homophobic..neither am i a..
judge..none of us are..em also not old fashioned..
however i do refrain from discussing my own sexual experiences in
an open forum.
This is between myself and my better half who would be so offended and
no doubt disappointed if i ever did that.

[Phalanx]

Because he likes the REALLY freaky stuff?
C'mon now...:D

[ChronoGrl]

so ... how does living in canada grab you ?


or should i wait until summer to ask again ?

I'm sure we can figure out a way to keep ourselves warm. ;)

You and the wife have room for one more? :p

[Hilti88NYC]

Do I agree with the way of life?NO...Do i knock it, no.....My girlfriends good friend is gay and he is a cool guy,just as long as they dont bring it y way especially if they no Im straight then Im cool with it...

My saying is" To each his own"...do what you gotta do,just dont try to involve me..

[ferretchucker]

I'm sure we can figure out a way to keep ourselves warm. ;)

You and the wife have room for one more? :p

Teenage fantasies running wild!

AHHHHHHHHHH!

[Papillon Noir]

all i can say to this is that i dont think too many men have been beaten up for being straight by a bunch of gay men.

the reverse ???


The was actually a group in the 70's in San Francisco called the Lavender Panthers who were a group of gay men who would go out and harass and beat up straight men.

@bwind
Science has pretty much determined that homosexuality is genetic and not a choice. There are also several other species than our own that are both hetero and homosexual.

[stubbornforgey]

I have friends who are gay and who are totally open about it..
i dont understand..why do they insist on making a public announcement?
We have whats called a hero's parade where every gay person in NZ is
showcased up our main street..dressed in all kinds of outfits, on floats
..onlookers
applaud and shout thier approval ..like a carnival atmosphere and em asking myself ...why? do the gay people need our endorsement ??
if your gay...your gay..
if your not..then your not
I don't wish to start a debate on this subject because..as i mentioned earlier..
em not homophobic..neither am i judge..
but to me ..the true heroes are the ones that fought to save our countries..
the mass amount of money and sponsorship spent on this parade would
have been better spent on our soldiers.

[bwind22]

There's no such thing as science pretty much determining something. Either it's a fact (They have pinpointed the gene) or it's a theory (Someone believes it, but have no proof.) Plenty of scientists speculate their theories as fact, but it's doesn't make it true until they can prove it.

Like I said, if it was genetic, there's no logic in that gene surviving evolution for hundreds and thousands of years. My own personal scientific theory is that it's a personal choice the individual makes. Until I see proof to the contrary, I don't think I'll be persuaded to believe otherwise.

[skyblue342]

Personally im proud to be bisexual. I dont care who knows it!

[NiKKiE]

I for one and not for gays but i dont insult them its the way they want to be. They werent born that way though i mean thats b.s. Since theres nothing i can do about it though i choose not to even fight it. Gays are going to take over the world lol.

[Posher778]

I for one and not for gays but i dont insult them its the way they want to be. They werent born that way though i mean thats b.s. Since theres nothing i can do about it though i choose not to even fight it. Gays are going to take over the world lol.

You can't say that. How would you know anyway since you aren't gay? I was born this way. I don't need science or religion to define my character. I was always, and will always be gay. And no 'theory', 'law', or bible verse is going to change that.

[NiKKiE]

No one is born gay. Gay is a sin therefore since no child is born a sinner you could of never been born gay. Dont get offended im allowed to think what is right :)

[skyblue342]

No one is born gay. Gay is a sin therefore since no child is born a sinner you could of never been born gay. Dont get offended im allowed to think what is right :)

Its only right to you. People are born gay whether you like it or not dear.

[Posher778]

No one is born gay. Gay is a sin therefore since no child is born a sinner you could of never been born gay. Dont get offended im allowed to think what is right :)

So basically you're an ignorant bigot? Awesome.

[NiKKiE]

So basically you're an ignorant bigot? Awesome.

I am not a bigot! Just because you dont like what im saying doesnt mean im wrong if this was a anti gay board then i wouldnt be a bigot. So shut up gayboy.

[Posher778]

I am not a bigot! Just because you dont like what im saying doesnt mean im wrong if this was a anti gay board then i wouldnt be a bigot. So shut up gayboy.

Hahaha, congratulations. And i'm sure you'll hold a wonderful position in the southern baptist political party one day.

[skyblue342]

I am not a bigot! Just because you dont like what im saying doesnt mean im wrong if this was a anti gay board then i wouldnt be a bigot. So shut up gayboy.

I'm happy your wrote this rude little post. Hopefully now you'll get banned:D

[Posher778]

I'm happy your wrote this rude little post. Hopefully now you'll get banned:D

No I love people like this. It's like a new age of Nella.

[urgeok2]

No one is born gay. Gay is a sin therefore since no child is born a sinner you could of never been born gay. Dont get offended im allowed to think what is right :)


were you born stupid ?

dont get offended if i'm allowed to think you're an idiot.

[urgeok2]

I am not a bigot! Just because you dont like what im saying doesnt mean im wrong if this was a anti gay board then i wouldnt be a bigot. So shut up gayboy.


thats about the dumbest fucking thing i've ever read.

how did you even figure out how to turn the PC on in the first place ?

[NiKKiE]

Wow so you just insulted me by calling my a idiot maybe you'll get banned too

so skyblue i take it your a fag boy too?

[urgeok2]

Wow so you just insulted me by calling my a idiot maybe you'll get banned too

so skyblue i take it your a fag boy too?


you are a FUCKING idiot.

better ?

[Posher778]

Wow so you just insulted me by calling my a idiot maybe you'll get banned too

so skyblue i take it your a fag boy too?

No, he won't get banned. You can't ban someone for being 100% right.

[Deep4est]

If I were gay I wouldn't admit to it. Not because of the prejudice and bigotry toward gays but because my walk in closet is so damned clutered with junk I can't even get into it nevermind coming out.

[ferretchucker]

There's no such thing as science pretty much determining something. Either it's a fact (They have pinpointed the gene) or it's a theory (Someone believes it, but have no proof.) Plenty of scientists speculate their theories as fact, but it's doesn't make it true until they can prove it.

Like I said, if it was genetic, there's no logic in that gene surviving evolution for hundreds and thousands of years. My own personal scientific theory is that it's a personal choice the individual makes. Until I see proof to the contrary, I don't think I'll be persuaded to believe otherwise.

But the idea is that it isn't a gene, but merely a more balanced amount of hormones. Everybody has both male and female hormones. Men have more male one, women have more female ones. But if a man has a closer balance of man - woman hormones, he may be attracted to males, as women are. It's the same but opposite for gay women. It's not really one gene. And though it's no fact yet, it's more than just a theory, as they have a lot of evidence to back it up, but not enough to make it totally conclusive.

I personally don't see how it could be a choice, because if it were, the gay people who receive constant abuse for it would merely change. But they don't because they can't help how they feel. Same as I'm sure you wouldn't be able to stop finding women attractive, even if you tried.

[hellfire1]

I personally don't see how it could be a choice, because if it were, the gay people who receive constant abuse for it would merely change. But they don't because they can't help how they feel. Same as I'm sure you wouldn't be able to stop finding women attractive, even if you tried.



Well said and agreed.

[skyblue342]

I personally don't see how it could be a choice, because if it were, the gay people who receive constant abuse for it would merely change. But they don't because they can't help how they feel. Same as I'm sure you wouldn't be able to stop finding women attractive, even if you tried.


Wow your so young ferret but your very wise.:)

[ferretchucker]

I get that a lot. ;)

[skyblue342]

I can already see you as a adult being really wise and mature thats awesome.

[Posher778]

I can already see you as a adult being really wise and mature thats awesome.

And gay, don't forget gay.


Just kidding Gabe...:p

[bwind22]

But the idea is that it isn't a gene, but merely a more balanced amount of hormones. Everybody has both male and female hormones. Men have more male one, women have more female ones. But if a man has a closer balance of man - woman hormones, he may be attracted to males, as women are. It's the same but opposite for gay women. It's not really one gene. And though it's no fact yet, it's more than just a theory, as they have a lot of evidence to back it up, but not enough to make it totally conclusive.

I personally don't see how it could be a choice, because if it were, the gay people who receive constant abuse for it would merely change. But they don't because they can't help how they feel. Same as I'm sure you wouldn't be able to stop finding women attractive, even if you tried.

Well, what you are refering to is a chemical imbalance. That's entirely possible, but it actually seems like a more negative statement than calling it an individual choice or a gene they are born with. A chemical imbalance suggests something is wrong with their body and they could go get a perscription to correct it, which I don't really agree with. I don't think anything is wrong with them physically and they certainly shouldn't have to take medication to 'correct' their chemical imbalance. (Also, I don't believe the scientific community is working on a cure for homosexuality. I realize you never suggested they were, but a chemical imbalance is something that could be 'cured'.)

And for the record, I am not on the same page as this Bible banger Nikkie that just showed up. I don't think being gay is a sin and I don't hold it against anyone. Like I said earlier, I have some gay friends. I just personally don't believe that it's something people are born with. At some point in their life, through nature, nurture, environment or just personal preference, they decided to like people of the same sex. If it occured at a very young age, it's perfectly reasonable to me that they would just assume that's the way they've always been. And some day, science may prove that wrong, but until that happens, that's just my own personal theory/belief.

[missmacabre]

No one is born gay. Gay is a sin therefore since no child is born a sinner you could of never been born gay. Dont get offended im allowed to think what is right :)

People like you give Christians like me a bad name. I hate to get into a religious debate but the basic rule for being a Christian is Do unto others as you would have done to you. As Christians we should be accepting of others and try to understand them. Not to tell people they are wrong for not agreeing with us, and certainly not to make others miserable.

[bwind22]

Any good Christian will tell you that God is the only true judge of what is and is not a sin, so in condemning people here for being gay, are you not sinning yourself?

[NiKKiE]

People like you give Christians like me a bad name. I hate to get into a religious debate but the basic rule for being a Christian is Do unto others as you would have done to you. As Christians we should be accepting of others and try to understand them. Not to tell people they are wrong for not agreeing with us, and certainly not to make others miserable.

Are you stupid? Christians do not go with gays we are against them why? God created us not to be gay adam and eve man and woman not man and man woman and woman. If you were a true christian you would not be for gays.

[NiKKiE]

Well, what you are refering to is a chemical imbalance. That's entirely possible, but it actually seems like a more negative statement than calling it an individual choice or a gene they are born with. A chemical imbalance suggests something is wrong with their body and they could go get a perscription to correct it, which I don't really agree with. I don't think anything is wrong with them physically and they certainly shouldn't have to take medication to 'correct' their chemical imbalance. (Also, I don't believe the scientific community is working on a cure for homosexuality. I realize you never suggested they were, but a chemical imbalance is something that could be 'cured'.)

And for the record, I am not on the same page as this Bible banger Nikkie that just showed up. I don't think being gay is a sin and I don't hold it against anyone. Like I said earlier, I have some gay friends. I just personally don't believe that it's something people are born with. At some point in their life, through nature, nurture, environment or just personal preference, they decided to like people of the same sex. If it occured at a very young age, it's perfectly reasonable to me that they would just assume that's the way they've always been. And some day, science may prove that wrong, but until that happens, that's just my own personal theory/belief.


I've been a member since 03 i didnt just show up stupid.

[skyblue342]

EVIL WOMAN BE GONE! haha

[missmacabre]

Are you stupid? Christians do not go with gays we are against them why? God created us not to be gay adam and eve man and woman not man and man woman and woman. If you were a true christian you would not be for gays.

I guess I'm stupid then. God created Adam and Eve, and yes I think that is the way a relationship should be. Doesn't mean I am going to war with every person who isn't like that. Many of my best friends are homosexual or bisexual, Posher included. I love and accept all of them, just the same as I love any human being no matter what. It's not my place to tell them if their lifestyle is right or wrong. I feel I am on this earth to be there for people and attempt to make it a better place by making people happy. Nothing less, nothing more.

[massacre man]

Are you stupid? Christians do not go with gays we are against them why? God created us not to be gay adam and eve man and woman not man and man woman and woman. If you were a true christian you would not be for gays.

I never understood how people could have this mindset...

[skyblue342]

Are you stupid? Christians do not go with gays we are against them why? God created us not to be gay adam and eve man and woman not man and man woman and woman. If you were a true christian you would not be for gays.

Dont call her stupid. You know these are the things you think, okay. Your thoughts are allowed here thats fine but you shouldnt insult people. Your a rude evil person and i get tired of hearing this crap. Why did you even come back on here to rant and treat us like crap. Go away seriously your not wanted your just going to get banned.

[hellfire1]

Bwind, since you believe sexuality is a choice, do you believe you also chose to be heterosexual at some point in your life?

Simple curiosity...

[NiKKiE]

You people are stupid. Why has this world come to this. Gays accepted like there good or something.. there monsters created by satan. Im disgusted with how there looked upon as normal.

[missmacabre]

BTW I'm with Bwind on sexuality being a choice for the most part. When I look at my friends and just in most situations there is something that happened to cause their homosexuality. My friend's Moms for instance were straight but are now lesbians because they had so many bad relationships with men. A few friends who are gay had been sexualy abused by the opposite sex when they were young. young enough to have not yet gone through puberty and had an attraction to the opposite sex. Then they are suddenly afraid of the opposite sex and what else is there?

[ferretchucker]

And gay, don't forget gay.




You sound just like the guys at school! :P

And Bwind, I wouldn't even dare think you were like Nikki. She's on a whole other page.


And Nikki. God is meant to be all forgiving. He gave people free will for a reason. Gay people can live their life how they want. Being gay isn't a sin. Show me the eleventh commandment that says "Though shall not pound ass" (no offense to our homosexual posters intended). Maybe you need to be reminded of this.

The thing that annoys me is that racists, sexists and homophobics choose to be those things. A persons Race, sex or Sexuality isn't their choice. I think discriminating someone for something they can't change is despicable, though as Despare said, they have a right to their opinions. I think I'd rather they didn't voice them though. Because the second something leaves the persons mouth, they can't take it back and it effects those who heard it.

Think what you will, but speaking it creates hate. You think that's what Jesus preached? Hate your fellow man for their way of life? NO! Those who preach hate, in the Christian religion, would go to HELL!

[hellfire1]

BTW I'm with Bwind on sexuality being a choice for the most part. When I look at my friends and just in most situations there is something that happened to cause their homosexuality. My friend's Moms for instance were straight but are now lesbians because they had so many bad relationships with men. A few friends who are gay had been sexualy abused by the opposite sex when they were young. young enough to have not yet gone through puberty and had an attraction to the opposite sex. Then they are suddenly afraid of the opposite sex and what else is there?



Then my question applies to you as well.

[La Chat Noire]

It really drives me crazy when people use God and religion as an excuse for intolerance and prejudice. Don't most Christians believe God unconditionally loves and accepts people for who they are?

[massacre man]

You people are stupid. Why has this world come to this. Gays accepted like there good or something.. there monsters created by satan. Im disgusted with how there looked upon as normal.

No, monsters created by Satan are those filled with hate.

[ferretchucker]

No, monsters created by Satan are those filled with hate.

That was what I said JACKASS!

Stay calm ferret. Stay calm...

:p


I think some people can become gay later in life, but once again, it isn't just a wim. In this case, it is something that affects their mind so badly they cannot forgive the opposite sex. This is more of a psychological trauma than a choice. At least, that's how I feel. I still think that in all cases, people can't consciously choose.

[missmacabre]

Then my question applies to you as well.

I'm young and have had my experimental time. Either way was enjoyable but personally I like guys better. Biologically I can see why either sex would say "Hey, I like having a strong man to protect me, but ladies are all soft and curvy and emotionally understanding." That said, sexuality to me is all about love. I am in love with a man and I love how having his arms around me makes me feel protected. I know I'll be with him for the rest of my life, so when we started getting serious I chose right then to be straight. I just have no need for a lesbian relationship.

[missmacabre]

It really drives me crazy when people use God and religion as an excuse for intolerance and prejudice. Don't most Christians believe God unconditionally loves and accepts people for who they are?

Exactly. Unfortunately I don't think it's most.

[stubbornforgey]

You people are stupid. Why has this world come to this. Gays accepted like there good or something.. there monsters created by satan. Im disgusted with how there looked upon as normal.

Did you know that in the original Romeo and Juliet play..
Juliet was played by a man??
Who are you to label others because of thier opinion?
Being prejudice is not normal either.

[hellfire1]

I'm young and have had my experimental time. Either way was enjoyable but personally I like guys better. Biologically I can see why either sex would say "Hey, I like having a strong man to protect me, but ladies are all soft and curvy and emotionally understanding." That said, sexuality to me is all about love. I am in love with a man and I love how having his arms around me makes me feel protected. I know I'll be with him for the rest of my life, so when we started getting serious I chose right then to be straight. I just have no need for a lesbian relationship.



Understandable. But to me, it isn't that you "chose" to be straight... you just chose to be in a committed relationship. And the person you chose to be with just happens to be a man. And for me, personally, if you've had relationships/experiences with both genders, that makes you bi. Or at least bi-curious.

[bwind22]

I've been a member since 03 i didnt just show up stupid.

I don't give a shit how long you've been a member. You just showed up in this thread. Douchebag.

I'm not gonna waaste my time on you. You'll be banned before the end of the day.

[bwind22]

Bwind, since you believe sexuality is a choice, do you believe you also chose to be heterosexual at some point in your life?

Simple curiosity...

Fair question. I believe procreation of the species is the natural instinct of any animal so we're all born hetero by default. At some point, certain people decide to be homosexual. *shrug* That's cool.

[missmacabre]

Understandable. But to me, it isn't that you "chose" to be straight... you just chose to be in a committed relationship. And the person you chose to be with just happens to be a man. And for me, personally, if you've had relationships/experiences with both genders, that makes you bi. Or at least bi-curious.

I can understand why you would think that I'm bi, and I have had to explain this to my friend once too. Bi-curious maybe, definitely even. Not Bi anymore though, cause when I was experimenting I was attracted to girls and guys. Now I can look at a guy and still find him sexually attractive but when I see a hot girl all I think is that she's pretty. Or oh, I like her blouse. Whatever... just no feelings for women you know?

I wish I was better at explaining what I think and putting things into words.

[Freak]

I dont have a problem with gay people.If you wanna be gay that's fine.What I do have a problem with is the one's that go running down the stree announce it to the world.The ones who talk in those really feminine voices and say things like "Oh my gosh." or who walk and sit like a woman.

[ferretchucker]

True. I think sexuality is yours and so you shouldn't force it onto people. It's like "You're gay. We get it! Stop trying to prove it to us...WE BELIEVE YOU!"

[urgeok2]

I've been a member since 03 i didnt just show up stupid.


you definately showed up stupid..


its not like you had a choice to show up any other way

[Despare]

True. I think sexuality is yours and so you shouldn't force it onto people. It's like "You're gay. We get it! Stop trying to prove it to us...WE BELIEVE YOU!"

The thing that makes me angriest about that is when schools let their students demonstrate or have a "gay pride day". It's a sexual preference and has no place in schools.

[ferretchucker]

I think when gays do that they're hurting their cause by perpetuating the idea they're different to straight people. Why not just leave it at we're all humans?

[newb]

you definately showed up stupid..


its not like you had a choice to show up any other way

LOL........classic:D

[urgeok2]

The thing that makes me angriest about that is when schools let their students demonstrate or have a "gay pride day". It's a sexual preference and has no place in schools.

well, like i said before - whenever there has been oppression - there is always a natural swing of the pendulum far the other way ...

it takes a while to find the balance so there's going to be some instances of extremes.

i know where you're coming from - i just dont worry too much about it.

Toronto has a huge gay pride parade. i've never been but people love it - to me its a big sign of tolerance - people - including straight folks - have been having a lot of fun with the event and i do believe it has a positive effect on acceptance.


school is usually the first place kids are discovering their sexuality - i'm all for tolerance being promoted in schools .. god knows a lot of parents wont do it.

[Despare]

I think when gays do that they're hurting their cause by perpetuating the idea they're different to straight people. Why not just leave it at we're all humans?

It's like racism or anything else.

"Treat us equally!"

"Wait... we want extra stuff too. You have to hire us."

"We're all human beings! We all bleed when we're pricked do we not?"

"Oh, hey, I think we need a month of history just for us."

"Don't look at us as homosexuals, just look at us as people!"

"While we're at it we're going to have a giant parade to celebrate the fact that we enjoy sleeping with the same sex."

"Oi vey, we went through some shit in Egypt... and even more in Germany. Don't hate us based on our religious beliefs!"

"No really, we just want to be treated equally."

Ok, so maybe not EVERYTHING else.


i know where you're coming from - i just dont worry too much about it.


But sex shouldn't be a factor in school anyway. If I was in high school still and walked around reminding everybody I liked to have sex with women I'd be suspended. Either way it's bad, straight OR gay.

[ferretchucker]

Slightly off topic but in the United Kingdom, we have something called the MOBO Awards. Heard of it? Music Of Black Origin Awards! Literally, only black musicians can win it! But it's allowed! Imagine the uproar if there were MOWO awards that only white people could win! And what would the asians have?

[urgeok2]

But sex shouldn't be a factor in school anyway. If I was in high school still and walked around reminding everybody I liked to have sex with women I'd be suspended. Either way it's bad, straight OR gay.


good or bad ... it's a fact of life - you cant turn back the tide - it happens.
(teen sexuality)

i didnt go around talking about it out loud but i'm not sure if i had a single thought about anything else the whole time i was in high school.

and i have the marks to support that :D

[ferretchucker]

I see it as Being proud of who you are is good, forcing other people to listen to you be proud isn't soo good. Yeh, don't keep it all hushed up but I do get a little miffed when people get in your face about who they are.

[bwind22]

I think sexuality should be taught by parents, but the simple fact is that it doesn't always happen. If it's not taught in school, we'd have probably half the population walking around ignorant to things like STDs and pregnancy.

I do have an issue with public schools starting it too young though. We had sex ed in 4th grade and I've read there are schools starting as early as 1st or 2nd grade. At that age, all they really need to know is 'good touch, bad touch'. Not how to perform intercourse or apply a condom.

[urgeok2]

I'm sure we can figure out a way to keep ourselves warm. ;)

You and the wife have room for one more? :p

hell yes !


just think of me as a canoe, or life raft .. or a log ride.

or anything else dirty you can think of.

[hacelikewhoa]

They stand up for themselves just as I would if millions of people did not approve of my sexuality and they had to degrade me as a human being. What if being straight was 'immoral?' I would stand up for myself and be proud of what I am too. If it weren't for so many people's disgust and disapproving they wouldn't need to draw attention to their way of life. Maybe they are tired of getting shunned. Maybe if so many people didn't see them as freaks they wouldn't need to stand up. They are only doing this to be on the same level as the rest of the world instead of being frowned upon, and with that they are succeeding.

[ferretchucker]

I think sexuality should be taught by parents, but the simple fact is that it doesn't always happen. If it's not taught in school, we'd have probably half the population walking around ignorant to things like STDs and pregnancy.

I do have an issue with public schools starting it too young though. We had sex ed in 4th grade and I've read there are schools starting as early as 1st or 2nd grade. At that age, all they really need to know is 'good touch, bad touch'. Not how to perform intercourse or apply a condom.

At my school, when I was in year 5 (which I believe would make the same age as a 4th grader), they began learning about things like puberty. It wasn't until the following year we began learning about actual sexual intercourse, though I think my entire class was already well aware of everything to do with it.

I think there are two sides to the story of it being to young. 1st or 2nd graders being taught it at that age has a benefit in that it doesn't seem strange or scary to them, and they are well informed. But then, them knowing about it at such a fragile age could lead them to do...shall we say...silly things they don't really understand about. And it's introducing them to the real, sometimes scary world a bit soon, taking a piece of their such precious childhood innocence. I personally think that is way too early.

[ferretchucker]

They stand up for themselves just as I would if millions of people did not approve of my sexuality and they had to degrade me as a human being. What if being straight was 'immoral?' I would stand up for myself and be proud of what I am too. If it weren't for so many people's disgust and disapproving they wouldn't need to draw attention to their way of life. Maybe they are tired of getting shunned. Maybe if so many people didn't see them as freaks they wouldn't need to stand up. They are only doing this to be on the same level as the rest of the world instead of being frowned upon, and with that they are succeeding.

I agree they should stand up for themselves to make themselves seem equal, but some take it to a level where they are pretty much making themselves believe they are better. But definetely, there should be some pride there. But respect for views works both ways, and some of them don't seem to grasp that. Same for people who are so straight they make a motorway seem like a roundabout.

[La Chat Noire]

I look at gay pride the same as any other kind of pride people have about their identities. No one seems to have problems with Latinos having their parade to celebrate their culture and identity. I think it's great when people take pride in themselves and celebrate who they are.

[skyblue342]

I agree 100% with you

[massacre man]

I look at gay pride the same as any other kind of pride people have about their identities. No one seems to have problems with Latinos having their parade to celebrate their culture and identity. I think it's great when people take pride in themselves and celebrate who they are.

I would like to see the reactions to a "Straight White Men" parade.

[ferretchucker]

I look at gay pride the same as any other kind of pride people have about their identities. No one seems to have problems with Latinos having their parade to celebrate their culture and identity. I think it's great when people take pride in themselves and celebrate who they are.

It's not the pride or the pride parades that I have a problem with, it's the way it seems to increase the feeling that we're not all equals. And as you said, people have no problem with latinos, they wouldn't with black people, asians, gay people etc. But if there was a pride parade exclusively for white english or white american people, it would be seen as a Racist statement of people going for supremacy. I just wish all of the things that keep people seeing differences would go, and we'd all just be people, all of us proud of ourselves and eavh other. Each one different to the next, but all equal. But I suppose, due to the stubbornness and bigotry of some people, maybe pride parades etc. are the way to go about it. I'm not sure.

[Despare]

I look at gay pride the same as any other kind of pride people have about their identities. No one seems to have problems with Latinos having their parade to celebrate their culture and identity. I think it's great when people take pride in themselves and celebrate who they are.

You're not celebrating your heritage, you're celebrating who you like to fuck.

[bwind22]

After Obama, maybe we'll elect a lesbian to the Oval Office and then people will start to realize that majority of Americans do consider everyone equal.

[Despare]

Love the banner ad on the top of the page by the way. I hope you all took the quiz...

[skyblue342]

Love the banner ad on the top of the page by the way. I hope you all took the quiz...

The "are you gay?" one?

[Posher778]

The "are you gay?" one?

I was diagnosed straight haha

[La Chat Noire]

You're not celebrating your heritage, you're celebrating who you like to fuck.

Why shouldn't we all celebrate the people we like to fuck? I bet my boyfriend would love if I threw him a parade :-P

Seriously though, if people were proud of being white or straight or whatever, I wouldn't care if they wanted to have their own parades. White people just tend to narrow their pride into their nationalities or heritages like Irish/Celtic Parades or Germanic Parades.

I think it might be cool if instead of gay pride parades they just called them free love parades or something, and everyone could celebrate who they love/want to fuck...then straight people could be included and the whole equality issue here could be solved.

[bwind22]

NiKKie=Banned. Can't say I didn't see that one coming a mile away. Bet they're glad they signed up 5 years ago just to turn up today, make a jackass of themself and get shown the door. :rolleyes:

I don't give a shit how long you've been a member. You just showed up in this thread. Douchebag.

I'm not gonna waaste my time on you. You'll be banned before the end of the day.

[Despare]

I think it might be cool if instead of gay pride parades they just called them free love parades or something

Let's pass out some acid and dance around with our flowers too hippie. ;)

[bwind22]

Pass it over here.

[urgeok2]

i think there is a big annual love parade - celebration somewhere in europe...

germany maybe ?

[Phalanx]

In Germany you say?
Sure you got the word "annual" right?
Heh.

[La Chat Noire]

Let's pass out some acid and dance around with our flowers too hippie. ;)

I would be so all about that.

[urgeok2]

In Germany you say?
Sure you got the word "annual" right?
Heh.


i googled it - i was right - it's in Berlin


found a link that lists other love parades as well :

http://www.pbase.com/ilanphoto/parades

[newb]

i googled it - i was right - it's in Berlin


found a link that lists other love parades as well :

http://www.pbase.com/ilanphoto/parades

I think Cheebs was going for an "anal" joke.

I could be wrong.....its happened before

[massacre man]

I think Cheebs was going for an "anal" joke.

I could be wrong.....its happened before

I did too...

[urgeok2]

I think Cheebs was going for an "anal" joke.

I could be wrong.....its happened before

well, i knew that :)

i thought i'd just take the opportunity to see if i was right about germany - or if i dreamed it :)

[newb]

well, i knew that :)

i thought i'd just take the opportunity to see if i was right about germany - or if i dreamed it :)

You have a lot of these "gay parade" dreams ?

http://www.photo.net/photo/pcd0155/gay-parade-32.jpg

[_____V_____]

Let's see...

"club" incident in Battle Royale - check,

"duck" and "goose" interchangeable - check,

leather licky pic - check,

really "hot" pic of gay parade just above - check.


I would agree, guys.

[urgeok2]

You have a lot of these "gay parade" dreams ?



hey man - i'm not the one who posted that pic .. christ !

[ferretchucker]

I think maybe the reason I don't like it when people have these exclusive things is because political correctness and things like that have gone mad in England. You can barely call someone black now without being seen as a racist! :confused:
Two years ago, it was illegal to have christmas decorations up in any workplaces in case it offended people! They don't call advent calenders advent calanders anymore, they're seasonal chocolate calanders! It's insane. Really pisses me off, considering this is a Christian country, and they have no hangups about other faiths practising and celebrating their religion. I don't care either, it's great to have diversity. But they for some reason think if we don't get rid off everything we believe in and only have the others, we're offending them. It's one rule for us, and another for them. I don't blame the people who have these other faiths or nationalities. It's the idiots in the government.

[Noah]

I love gay men. Yes, I am comfortable enough in my sexuality to admit such a thing. I think they're fantastic, entertaining (when flamboyant) and a lot of them are pretty hot.

[Papillon Noir]

I think maybe the reason I don't like it when people have these exclusive things is because political correctness and things like that have gone mad in England. You can barely call someone black now without being seen as a racist! :confused:
Two years ago, it was illegal to have christmas decorations up in any workplaces in case it offended people! They don't call advent calenders advent calanders anymore, they're seasonal chocolate calanders! It's insane. Really pisses me off, considering this is a Christian country, and they have no hangups about other faiths practising and celebrating their religion. I don't care either, it's great to have diversity. But they for some reason think if we don't get rid off everything we believe in and only have the others, we're offending them. It's one rule for us, and another for them. I don't blame the people who have these other faiths or nationalities. It's the idiots in the government.

It's just like that in America. It's awful.

You have the term African-American instead of Black, but White people are still called White. Either have it Black and white or call White people European-Americans. It's this double-standard that irritates me.

We are also not allowed to say Christmas or anything like that anymore either. Christian Christmas symbols are obviously out, but Santa is now deemed inappropriate as well. All you're allowed to say is "Holiday" with winter imagery like holly and snow.

Damn liberals. :cool:

[newb]

hey man - i'm not the one who posted that pic .. christ !

tee hee....silly me..I meant to post that in the "post a pic of yourself" thread

[stubbornforgey]

I think maybe the reason I don't like it when people have these exclusive things is because political correctness and things like that have gone mad in England. You can barely call someone black now without being seen as a racist! :confused:
Two years ago, it was illegal to have christmas decorations up in any workplaces in case it offended people! They don't call advent calenders advent calanders anymore, they're seasonal chocolate calanders! It's insane. Really pisses me off, considering this is a Christian country, and they have no hangups about other faiths practising and celebrating their religion. I don't care either, it's great to have diversity. But they for some reason think if we don't get rid off everything we believe in and only have the others, we're offending them. It's one rule for us, and another for them. I don't blame the people who have these other faiths or nationalities. It's the idiots in the government.



very good point there watson. Its pc gone mad

[bwind22]

tee hee....silly me..I meant to post that in the "post a pic of yourself" thread

Are you the guy that is spray painted gold?

[bwind22]

The war on Chirstmas is bullshit. It's a national fuckin' holiday! As soon as it became a national holiday, saying 'Merry Christmas' became like saying 'Happy 4th of July' or 'Happy Thanksgiving'. If someone doesn't want to recognize it as the birthday of Baby Jesus, they don't have to (no one is forcing them to) but they shouldn't complain when someone says 'Merry Christmas' to them or they see a Christmas tree in a public area.

South Park has a great, older episode about this. Everyone in town takes offense to stuff in the school's Christmas pangeant so they keep taking things out until the final result is a bunch of kids in black leotards doing some interpretive dance to bizarre non-lyrical music. Then the whole town complains that the pageant sucked that year.

Fuck 'Happy Holidays' and 'Seasons Greetings', tell people 'Merry Christmas!' this year and watch their jaws drop at your unbelievably large balls.

[Vodstok]

South Park has a great, older episode about this. Everyone in town takes offense to stuff in the school's Christmas pangeant so they keep taking things out until the final result is a bunch of kids in black leotards doing some interpretive dance to bizarre non-lyrical music. Then the whole town complains that the pageant sucked that year.


That was the original christmas episode (if you dont count "The Spirit of Christmas" short)


I apparently missed the coming out party. Did someone come out of the closet in the past couple of weeks? I would search but this site's search engine sucks and i dont want to wade through 3000 threads on movies people hate, and the 30 or so started 4 years ago by trolls who didnt like me ;)

[Papillon Noir]

That was the original christmas episode (if you dont count "The Spirit of Christmas" short)


I apparently missed the coming out party. Did someone come out of the closet in the past couple of weeks? I would search but this site's search engine sucks and i dont want to wade through 3000 threads on movies people hate, and the 30 or so started 4 years ago by trolls who didnt like me ;)

Here you go, Vod: http://www.horror.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38936

[Vodstok]

thank you :)

Its really a non issue to me. What I find amazing is that there are people who are actually still "in the closet" and that anyone cares one way or the other. its almost 2009, we have bigger problems and concerns than who people are sexually attracted to.


What I dont understand in any way shape or form:
the opposition to gay marriage. nothing says "I desperately want to impose my belief system on others" more than openly opposing gay marriage.

[missmacabre]

What I dont understand in any way shape or form:
the opposition to gay marriage. nothing says "I desperately want to impose my belief system on others" more than openly opposing gay marriage.

Agreed, Olbermann's commentary on Prop8 was amazing. If you haven't seen it, go google it. Truer words... etc etc.

[Disease]

I hate it when you go to a gay bar because it's the only place still open and every guy want's to fuck you....

[urgeok2]

I hate it when you go to a gay bar because it's the only place still open and every guy want's to fuck you....


just relax and enjoy the free drinks

[Vodstok]

I hate it when you go to a gay bar because it's the only place still open and every guy want's to fuck you....
Dont feel too bad. if its the only place open, then everyone there is sloshed and they want to fuck you because you have a pulse. I'm sure they wouldnt be interested in you sober.



Feel better? :)

[Angra]

just relax and enjoy the free drinks


Relax??!!!

That's just what they're waiting for you to do! THEN they ask you to bend over. :eek:

[skyblue342]

Relax??!!!

That's just what they're waiting for you to do! THEN they ask you to bend over. :eek:

Haha i dont think they'll ask you to do that in the bar but just dont get a ride from anyone ;)

[ferretchucker]

because it's the only place still open

Yeh, sure that's why you go in there. :rolleyes: :p

[Despare]

What I dont understand in any way shape or form:
the opposition to gay marriage. nothing says "I desperately want to impose my belief system on others" more than openly opposing gay marriage.

Or you just want to stop the spread of a disease...

HIV cases increase in places where gay marriage is allowed.

Or you support a traditional family unit regardless of religion. Neither candidate supported gay marriage this go around (although they both supported full rights for same-sex couples).

[bloodrayne]

Neither candidate supported gay marriage this go around (although they both supported full rights for same-sex couples).

There's never been a candidate who supports gay marriage...Not even Hillary...She's for civil unions, too.

[Phalanx]

and watch their jaws drop at your unbelievably large balls.
Ha, in the gay thread

HIV cases increase in places where gay marriage is allowed.
That might be true, but I'd have thought otherwise...

[bloodrayne]

That might be true, but I'd have thought otherwise...Yes, you would think that if people were married they would be monogamous and would be less likely to spread a disease...Then again, perhaps it relates to the area in which people are more open to the gay lifestyle (which would be why gay marriage was accepted) and in the area in general AIDS cases are higher because homosexuals are more likely to contract AIDS...Could be purely regional demographics

[ChronoGrl]

HIV cases increase in places where gay marriage is allowed.

Cite your sources.

Know what that made me think of? The fact that apparently STDs are rampant amongst the elderly (http://std.about.com/od/stdsspecificcommunities/a/elderlystd.htm). They sit around their retirement homes and just get it on. Maybe in order to decrease the spread of HIV and other STDs we should just ban the elderly.

[Despare]

Cite your sources.

Know what that made me think of? The fact that apparently STDs are rampant amongst the elderly (http://std.about.com/od/stdsspecificcommunities/a/elderlystd.htm). They sit around their retirement homes and just get it on. Maybe in order to decrease the spread of HIV and other STDs we should just ban the elderly.

You can also look up the fact that homosexuals tend to cheat more often... maybe it's because they're not afforded the "luxury" of a committed marriage. Anyway, let em' get married or not I personally could care less.

"Since homosexual marriage became “legal” the rates of HIV / AIDS have gone up considerably in Massachusetts."

"A study in the journal AIDS reported that in Holland, where “gay marriage” has been legal since 2001, HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases are soaring among homosexual men. The study notes that “partnered” homosexuals have “outside” lovers, although fewer than the “unpartnered,” and that men in these relationships are still contracting the AIDS virus at alarming rates."

[bwind22]

What I dont understand in any way shape or form:
the opposition to gay marriage. nothing says "I desperately want to impose my belief system on others" more than openly opposing gay marriage.

I understand it and will now explain it. (My understanding and explanation should not be mistaken for agreement though.) ;)

The majority of the country is Christian. Marriage is a sacrament. The Christian definition of marriage is that it is a union between a man & woman vowing to God to spend their life together.

Where we, as a country, went completely wrong was that we forgot about keeping church seperate from state and began giving married couples special privelages that others don't get. So now Marriage has a legal definition as well as a Christian one. That is where we erred.

The Christians are against gay marriage because it infringes on their definition of marriage. The gays are for it simply because they want the same rights a married couple receives from the government.

This whole fiasco could have been avoided if marriage had just been left a religious term to begin with. Instead, the legal system could have called religious marriage a civil union and then granted special rights and privelages to civil unions, gay or straight, religious or secular.

*shrug*

Seems obvious, but because our government already fucked it up. I don't see how they can fix it now, aside from just calling marriage a civil union in legal terms and granting all current marital rights to all civil unions.

Basically, the religious folks want to protect the meaning of one of their sacraments. The gay people just want equal treatment. It's all caught up in the verbage being used though, which is pretty ridiculous to me.

[Papillon Noir]

Or you just want to stop the spread of a disease...

HIV cases increase in places where gay marriage is allowed.



HIV is not a gay disease. Places where gay marriage is allowed have other people in them, who are straight and/or drug users. There is still a lot of people transmitting the disease through intravenous drug use and heterosexual sex.

[ferretchucker]

Or you just want to stop the spread of a disease...

HIV cases increase in places where gay marriage is allowed.


I don't think that's reason enough to ban gay marriage. Yes, Gay men are more likely to get HIV. But that doesn't mean they cause it. HIV doesn't choose who it goes for. It can happen to anyone and so if Gay people can't get married for that reason, anybody with HIV can't get married. Anybody with any Sexually Transmitted Disease Can't get married. But from there, it would get worse. Maybe they can't have any sexual relationships. Maybe no intimacy, in case it develops to sex. I'm not saying you would feel that way, but if you make one law like that, it would have to continue going to be fair.

Also, yes, Gay men cheat. But even then, most will not sleep around all the time. And most who are married will just stay with their partners. They may occasionally sleep with one or two people, as a straight person might. But if they're not committed at all, they are going to sleep with even more different people.

[pinkfloyd45769]

Why is it that gay men are more likely to get HIV?I've really never had a full understanding of that.

[ferretchucker]

This is going from what I was told a few years ago, so it is likely to be wrong.


It think it's something to do with the virus being in greater numbers around the Anus.

[Phalanx]

I think you're along the way to being right there.
From what I've read, It's not about concentration of the virus around any particular areas in the body it's about anal sex producing more friction and resulting in more tiny "cuts" forming on the parts that have contact - this happens with vaginal sex too, but less so...but yknow, fuck a person unprotected when they have AIDS, the two are among the highest risk.

But yknow...AIDS is only ever born out off stupidity or ignorance, sometimes both.
Either you don't know the person you're choosing to sleep with unprotected half as well as you ought to, or you're a goddamn needle sharing junkie fool.

[hacelikewhoa]

I understand it and will now explain it. (My understanding and explanation should not be mistaken for agreement though.) ;)

The majority of the country is Christian. Marriage is a sacrament. The Christian definition of marriage is that it is a union between a man & woman vowing to God to spend their life together.

Where we, as a country, went completely wrong was that we forgot about keeping church seperate from state and began giving married couples special privelages that others don't get. So now Marriage has a legal definition as well as a Christian one. That is where we erred.

The Christians are against gay marriage because it infringes on their definition of marriage. The gays are for it simply because they want the same rights a married couple receives from the government.

This whole fiasco could have been avoided if marriage had just been left a religious term to begin with. Instead, the legal system could have called religious marriage a civil union and then granted special rights and privelages to civil unions, gay or straight, religious or secular.

*shrug*

Seems obvious, but because our government already fucked it up. I don't see how they can fix it now, aside from just calling marriage a civil union in legal terms and granting all current marital rights to all civil unions.

Basically, the religious folks want to protect the meaning of one of their sacraments. The gay people just want equal treatment. It's all caught up in the verbage being used though, which is pretty ridiculous to me.

I think you summed it up rather accurately. That's my biggest argument against banning gay marriage. The fact that we have the 'right' to are own religious beliefs and yet we still have laws enforced that are based on christian beliefs. It's all fucked.

[Disease]

The Gay thread turns into the aids thread... didn't it all begin with a monkey...

This thread is getting a little bit ridicurus..

[Despare]

The Gay thread turns into the aids thread... didn't it all begin with a monkey...

This thread is getting a little bit ridicurus..

AIDS is a gay disease so it's logical that the conversation would head in this direction.

"The Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center has abandoned a long-held homosexual activist contention by declaring on billboards posted throughout Southern California that HIV/AIDS is a “gay disease.”

According to a report by the Los Angeles Times, the Center is trying to address rapidly increasing HIV infection rates among the homosexual population by rallying the gay community to increasing vigilance against exposure to the disease. Activists for the homosexual lifestyle have, until this current development, strongly, and sometimes vehemently refused to admit that the disease is predominantly generated among homosexual men.

The ad campaign, which is also running in magazines, is in part a response to the findings of public health officials, who have noted that three out of four cases of HIV infections are found in men who engage in homosexual activity, the United Press International reported.

In 2005 US health officials reported an alarming eight percent increase in HIV infection rates in one year alone among homosexual and bisexual men. The Center for Disease Control also warned that a survey of 15-29 year old men who engaged in homosexual activity “reported that the proportion of unrecognized HIV infection was as high as 77 %.”

A report by the Public Health Agency of Canada, released in August 2006, revealed a sharp increase in HIV/AIDS infections, with 51 percent of infections found in men engaging in homosexual activity."

[hacelikewhoa]

Wow, as if there weren't enough ignorant people in the world. I can't escape it anywhere I go.

[Phalanx]

Did you think going on the net was actually one of the better escapes...?

[hacelikewhoa]

Did you think going on the net was actually one of the better escapes...?

good point I guess.

[bwind22]

To think there's still a school of thought out there that considers Aids a "gay" disease is simply mind boggling. In the early 80s, when the disease first started getting a lot of media attention, true, it was mainly in the gay and intravenous needle communities but twenty years later, there's little doubt that it affects everyone; young, old, gay, straight, man, woman, druggies, blood transfusion recipients. Anyone that's sexually active is at risk now, as well as paramedics, nurses, police, anyone injecting anything with used needles and even people receiving blood transfusions (although quite rare). Regardless of how or where it's origin lies or what demographics it affected first, it certainly affects (or could affect) everybody now. Calling it a "gay" disease leads to the assumption that one can't catch it by having heterosexual sex, which is completely false.

[hacelikewhoa]

To think there's still a school of thought out there that considers Aids a "gay" disease is simply mind boggling. In the early 80s, when the disease first started getting a lot of media attention, true, it was mainly in the gay and intravenous needle communities but twenty years later, there's little doubt that it affects everyone; young, old, gay, straight, man, woman, druggies, blood transfusion recipients. Anyone that's sexually active is at risk now, as well as paramedics, nurses, police, anyone injecting anything with used needles and even people receiving blood transfusions (although quite rare). Regardless of how or where it's origin lies or what demographics it affected first, it certainly affects (or could affect) everybody now. Calling it a "gay" disease leads to the assumption that one can't catch it by having heterosexual sex, which is completely false.

thank you

these people are killing me, about to put me in hush mode. I'm growing tired of arguing.

[bwind22]

thank you

these people are killing me, about to put me in hush mode. I'm growing tired of arguing.

I have no hush mode. It's impossible for me to sit here silent when I see something that is just blatantly wrong. ;)

[bwind22]

Incidently, my lack of hush mode is costing me points left and right in the HDC Idol competition. Just ask neverending. :D

[hacelikewhoa]

I have no hush mode. It's impossible for me to sit here silent when I see something that is just blatantly wrong. ;)


awesome. I'm just tired of there being so many ignorant people and every time I voice my opinion I don't have any back up, just more b.s

[bwind22]

awesome. I'm just tired of there being so many ignorant people and every time I voice my opinion I don't have any back up, just more b.s

The world is full of ignorant people I'm afraid. They far outnumber the non-ignorant. I'd say by a ratio of at least 2-1, but probably more like 3 or 4-1 in my experience.

That being said, I don't think Despare is necessarily ignorant. He was quoting an article.

[Despare]

*yawn*

I suppose people missed the whole fact that "The Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center" was the one now saying it's a "gay disease" and not me. Proving once again that most people are indeed fucktards.



That being said, I don't think Despare is necessarily ignorant. He was quoting an article.

Wow, once again someONE gets it...

[skyblue342]

http://i35.tinypic.com/9zq97l.gif

I'm all about gay pride!

[hacelikewhoa]

whatev.


p.s sky blue is banned? haha

[Phalanx]

Got banned did he?
I never saw a great problem with him other than the fact the only stuff he posted was...well, more at home in an under 18's forum...I tried to mention he might be a bit more productive, he had a go...don't know what he did aside from that, but can't say I'll shed too much a tear.

[newb]

whatev.


p.s sky blue is banned? haha

Looks like he lost his voice again.

what happened?

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

good job mods.

thanks for making the effort to keep the forum retard-free. :)

[urgeok2]

Looks like he lost his voice again.

what happened?


there was a goth vs punk thread that got stupid and insulting ..

looks like its been deleted.

[Phalanx]

Speaking of gay, I usually try and make it along to Sydneys gay mardi-gras...not for a great deal more'n to look at some nice costumes and makeup (they need a gay horror fans float.. ..) and free condoms getting chucked around..) that a lot of effort has gone into, good food, people having fun in a peaceful way, a lot of exposed titties (hey, I don't care if the titty-holders are gay).
It's like a massive party...and makes me feel good to see so many people are in support of people making choices.
"Gay pride parade" is what you folks might have, but yeah, the one here's HUGE.

[Psycom5k]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff297/Snow4Sale/Funny%20Stuff/this-thread-is-gay.jpg

:D

[The Mothman]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff297/Snow4Sale/Funny%20Stuff/this-thread-is-gay.jpg

:D
I was gonna stop by at some point and just say 'this thread is gay.' but you did it with much more style, kudos. :)

[Psycom5k]

I was gonna stop by at some point and just say 'this thread is gay.' but you did it with much more style, kudos. :)

Why thank you sir. Thats how I roll. :)

[urgeok2]

I was gonna stop by at some point and just say 'this thread is gay.' but you did it with much more style, kudos. :)


it's been done at least twice already anyway

[ChronoGrl]

You can also look up the fact that homosexuals tend to cheat more often... maybe it's because they're not afforded the "luxury" of a committed marriage. Anyway, let em' get married or not I personally could care less.

"Since homosexual marriage became “legal” the rates of HIV / AIDS have gone up considerably in Massachusetts."

"A study in the journal AIDS reported that in Holland, where “gay marriage” has been legal since 2001, HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases are soaring among homosexual men. The study notes that “partnered” homosexuals have “outside” lovers, although fewer than the “unpartnered,” and that men in these relationships are still contracting the AIDS virus at alarming rates."

I feel the same way in terms of gay marriage.

In terms of homosexuality and the AIDS issue, I'm just constantly fascinated how numbers and statistics are quoted in the media (which is why I wanted your source). I completely understand why there is increase in AIDS in certain gay communities; the fact of the matter is that anal sex is more susceptible to AIDS than vaginal penetration. Couple that with unprotected anal sex and your AIDS rates skyrocket unfortunately.

It's really made up cause and effect that generally drives me crazy in the press. The rates of AIDS and HIV increasing in MA following the legalizing of gay marriage doesn't necessarily show cause and effect.

Could be that with the allowance of gay marriage, there is an increase in people getting tested for STD's (you know, to get that license!) ergo, people who always had the virus are now being documented because they are stepping forward to get tested.

Or

Since marriage was legalized, more gay and lesbian people have migrated to Mass. Since HIV is more prevalent in the gay communities, the cause and effect could be that more people who have HIV are moving in as opposed to the disease actually spreading.

Just another way to look at it.

[stubbornforgey]

I avoided posting a reply in here because it just hit me that somebody I know
just openly admitted he was gay.
I know em not homophobic and I know em not critical of anybody who have different tendencies regarding this..but ..I was stunned...and yet I dont know why.
I never expected this friend of mine to just come right out and confess to this.
he doesn't look gay..he doesn't act gay.
So how does a man know he is gay.? or a woman at that..how does she know
she is a lesbian?

[ChronoGrl]

In the tenth grade I just realized that I had a crush on my friend Erin. Ever since, I've always found women more attractive than men.

That being said, I am very much happy with my boyfriend right now.

It's all in what you find attractive, I guess. :D

[massacre man]

I just watched Chasing Amy.


Thought I'd share.

[hacelikewhoa]

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8677/1224377434235kf9.jpg

Morrissey baby

[Posher778]

Hiv rates just skyrocket because gay people don't know how to wrap it up.

[The_Return]

I just watched Chasing Amy.


Thought I'd share.

Pfffft - she barely even counts.

Great movie though.

[Despare]

Hiv rates just skyrocket because gay people don't know how to wrap it up.

Don't get in trouble, wrap it up double.

[Posher778]

Don't get in trouble, wrap it up double.

Good call.


I'm bumping this thread (please, no lewd references) because I just realized that there are quite a few gay/bi folks at hdc. So i'm wondering... What is it with fans of horror/occult stuff/ obscure things and being gay/bi?

[Despare]

Good call.


I'm bumping this thread (please, no lewd references) because I just realized that there are quite a few gay/bi folks at hdc. So i'm wondering... What is it with fans of horror/occult stuff/ obscure things and being gay/bi?

You're already weirdos and liking that stuff gives you stuff in common with other weirdos? ;)

Hope you enjoyed your ice cream...

[scouse mac]

Horror fans are generally an open minded bunch, much more accepting and appreciative of things deemed not mainstream.

Im prepared to be corrected but I dont think the number of people who are horror fans and gay/bi is any different than anywhere else, just that its easier to feel comfortable about being open about it.

Or maybe Im talking crap

[ferretchucker]

I thought it was just you, Chrono (gee wiz that's hot), and one other that I can't remember.

[Posher778]

No there are a good bit. Me and Chrono are open about it. That Marley's Ghost chick who isn't around much anymore, and then a bunch of other people who aren't open about it.

[Marley's Ghost]

No there are a good bit. Me and Chrono are open about it. That Marley's Ghost chick who isn't around much anymore, and then a bunch of other people who aren't open about it.

FIRST OF ALL
I'M NOT A CHICK
I'M A HETRO MALE
WHO DOES NOT SUCK DICK

IF BY GAY YOU MEAN HAPPY
I'M GUILTY AS SIN
BUT MY ANUS IS FOR EXITS
WHICH MEANS NOTHING GOES IN

[Posher778]

Be nice, I know your true identity.

[Despare]

Be nice, I know your true identity.

http://www.theangrypuppy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/zorro1.jpg

[Marley's Ghost]

I've Said Nothing Bad
My Words Were The Truth
Sometimes My Way Of Speak
May Seem A Bit Uncouth

I Don't Mean To Offend
My Gay Sisters & Bro's
As Far As My Identity
I Think Everybody Knows

They Call Me A Ninja
The Mod Who Cuts Deep
Or Am I Canadian
Who Buys Dvds By The Heap

Maybe I Like Beer
Or I Come From Downunder
Where Woman Glow
And Men Plunder

My Favorite Word Is Poonuts
Now Who Could I Be
I Make Movies With Dario
Or Uncle Ozma Is Me

[Posher778]

I've Said Nothing Bad
My Words Were The Truth
Sometimes My Way Of Speak
May Seem A Bit Uncouth

I Don't Mean To Offend
My Gay Sisters & Bro's
As Far As My Identity
I Think Everybody Knows

They Call Me A Ninja
The Mod Who Cuts Deep
Or Am I Canadian
Who Buys Dvds By The Heap

Maybe I Like Beer
Or I Come From Downunder
Where Woman Glow
And Men Plunder

My Favorite Word Is Poonuts
Now Who Could I Be
I Make Movies With Dario
Or Uncle Ozma Is Me

It doesn't change the fact that I know who you are.

[Angra]

It doesn't change the fact that I know who you are.



I thought he was you?

[The_Return]

I thought he was you?

Hah!

Ol' Posh isn't that witty...

[Angra]

Hah!

Ol' Posh isn't that witty...



Neither is Marley..

[Marley's Ghost]

Neither is Marley..

YOUR WORDS DO NOT BOTHER ME
I CARE NOT WHAT YOU SAY
JUST NAME ME ONE COMEDIAN
TO COME OUT OF NORWAY

[Angra]

YOUR WORDS DO NOT BOTHER ME
I CARE NOT WHAT YOU SAY
JUST NAME ME ONE COMEDIAN
TO COME OUT OF NORWAY


Fleksnes...


I see your point.

[ferretchucker]

Come now, Marley,
you seem rather stressed,
like a funny looking puppy,
in humourous dress.

But I do think it is time,
that we all knew your name,
reveal yourself now,
be open to fame!

[The_Return]

Neither is Marley..

My point exactly.

[ChronoGrl]

I thought it was just you, Chrono (gee wiz that's hot), and one other that I can't remember.

Let's not excite the pre-pubescent. I don't want to get arrested. ;)

No there are a good bit. Me and Chrono are open about it.

Are we seriously the only open ones? Huh. The last forum I was on was INCREDIBLY queer (it was a Buffy forum; go figure). Guess I was used to that. I didn't realize how non-queer this site was.

Then again - Isn't the stereotypical horror demo the 16- to 25-year-old straight male? Posh and I shouldn't be so surprised at being the sweet cream filling of this sausage party.

[missmacabre]

The other guy who came out was that Skyblue guy I think.

but it's true. Most of our regular posters are in the demographic.
Ferret is too young.
There is Gore, Geddy, Massacreman, The Return, Fortunato, Dante.
I don't really know the ages of the other males on here just that they are older and that I respect them enough not to ask.

There are also a lot of girls though but we don't fit the mold so to speak.

[Elvis_Christ]

I'm 86

...........

[Angra]

I'm 86

...........


Really?

You sound older.

[scouse mac]

Doesnt Haunted come round here anymore?

[Angra]

Doesnt Haunted come round here anymore?


Nope.............

[Disease]

Nope.............

So is where gay H.D.C hangs out?

Oh, hi Angra. :)

[Posher778]

Angra's not gay... It's a chick, didn't you hear?

[ferretchucker]

Ferret is too young.


Baby, for you, I can be any age you want! ;):p

[missmacabre]

Baby, for you, I can be any age you want! ;):p

You're younger than my little brother :p I still love you though.

[Elvis_Christ]

Angra's not gay... It's a chick, didn't you hear?

:D

Yeh I always thought he was a chick too. A chick with drunk on wine PMS rage.

[ferretchucker]

I still love you though.

In the immortal words of Han Solo;

"I know."

:p

[Posher778]

:D

Yeh I always thought he was a chick too. A chick with drunk on wine PMS rage.

I know! He's more feminine than.... well... Me! Which isn't saying all that much but... still....


ANGRA'S GOT COOCHIE.

[Elvis_Christ]

:D hahaha

(S)he's gonna hit the roof when (s)he reads that!

[Angra]

Baby, for you, I can be any age you want! ;):p



Bwah!!

Slut....

[Angra]

:D hahaha

(S)he's gonna hit the roof when (s)he reads that!



Naaa, i'm pretty comfortable with who i am. In here.


It's out there in the real world i got issues.

[Elvis_Christ]

Naaa, i'm pretty comfortable with who i am. In here.


It's out there in the real world i got issues.

:D ...................

[R3PR33SUR!Z3]

So what happens if you're gay and black ?

[Elvis_Christ]

You become a uberminority?