A football thread

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by bwind22
You think the Dolphins are gonna trade him?

If my entire offense consisted of 1 good WR (Chambers) and 1 good RB (Williams), I don't think I'd be looking at trading either of them.

I always though Sage Rosenfels was a better than average QB... he just doesn't get to play.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bwind22
You think the Dolphins are gonna trade him?

If my entire offense consisted of 1 good WR (Chambers) and 1 good RB (Williams), I don't think I'd be looking at trading either of them.



Ronnie Brown is a good back and he's just going to get better not to mention he can catch and block something Ricky isn't to great at.

They've got a tight end,reciever,running back,couple of good lineman and still a pretty good defense which Saban is going to make better. So why not trade him and have two first round picks next year to throw in a couple more building block.

[zomb5150]

Go Steelers:)

[AUSTIN316426808]

I just read in the paper(don't know how credible it is)that the Jets are trying to trade for Lavar Arrington. That would be cool to have him,Vilma and Hawk on the field at the same time but again don't know how credible or likely it is.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I just read in the paper(don't know how credible it is)that the Jets are trying to trade for Lavar Arrington. That would be cool to have him,Vilma and Hawk on the field at the same time but again don't know how credible or likely it is.

Any word on who the Jets are trading for him?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Any word on who the Jets are trading for him?



Draft picks,Arrington's stock has really dropped with the Skins for some reason(maybe off the field stuff, with him not being to high profile I could see how it could be kept behind closed doors) so he could go for a 3rd and a player.

[ItsAlive75]

Any player's stock will drop if you forcably keep him off the field. Arrington would be a star on any other team.

[NECRO666]

They say Bruschi may be out until after the first rd playoffs or more? All this hype about these first rd picks these days there nothing but hype taking nothing away from bush but most of them are. Oh Yea. Michal Vick is OVER RATED :D look for Bush to goto the J.E.T.S SUX SUX SUX. Curtis martin may not be a jet. You call htem NY jets, i call them NJ jets :D Since almost everybody saying that Alexzander should be mvp well he should and brady they did had two season mvp not to long ago and they could do it again. If the patriots beat the Jags and then beat the steelers (no bangles) they would have a better chanse beating the colts, even if it's not home field. if bruschi and there Cb get better and play better.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by NECRO666
They say Bruschi may be out until after the first rd playoffs or more? All this hype about these first rd picks these days there nothing but hype taking nothing away from bush but most of them are. Oh Yea. Michal Vick is OVER RATED :D look for Bush to goto the J.E.T.S SUX SUX SUX. Curtis martin may not be a jet. You call htem NY jets, i call them NJ jets :D Since almost everybody saying that Alexzander should be mvp well he should and brady they did had two season mvp not to long ago and they could do it again. If the patriots beat the Jags and then beat the steelers (no bangles) they would have a better chanse beating the colts, even if it's not home field. if bruschi and there Cb get better and play better.


Tom Brady's never been season MVP.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Any player's stock will drop if you forcably keep him off the field. Arrington would be a star on any other team.



Cancel that, I just got this morning's paper and checked the same section to see if there'd be anymore on it and it seems that it was a fan commentary section. The Jets are looking over the trading block but as far as the Arrington deal it's nothing more than a rumor with low credibility.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Random entry...


I don't like all this talk about Alexander being a lock, Manning should be the MVP. He's having a better season than he did when he won the MVP in '03 and the team is better. Don't get me wrong Alexander,Brady and Barber are having great seasons but the Colts are the best team in the league and if they didn't have Manning they wouldn't be, it's as simple as that. It's just like when Favre won the three straight, he was the best and the Packers wouldn't have been nearly as good without him.

[ItsAlive75]

Lovie's a lock for coach of da year... I think he's a lock.... nah he's a lock.

And Manning's a much more suitable pick for MVP.

[AUSTIN316426808]

I also don't like how everybody that wins Coach of the Year is on a team who was bad the year before. Just because your team was supposed to be good doesn't mean you didn't do your job well.

Having said that I think it's Lovie or Dungy for sure, nobody else should even be considered. 13-0 and horrible to division champs and the best D in the league.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
I also don't like how everybody that wins Coach of the Year is on a team who was bad the year before. Just because your team was supposed to be good doesn't mean you didn't do your job well.


True, but pulling a piss-poor team out of the mud and making them perform is still a pretty big feat. Scott Skiles did it with the Bulls...

Actually I just realized, Scott Skiles won CotY with the Bulls, Ozzie Guillen won CotY with the Sox, if Lovie won it with the Bears that'd be a nice ego-boost for Chicago.

[AUSTIN316426808]

I expected the Tigers to beat Miami but 40-3 without Russell,no Broussard(all season for that matter),Addai at about 75%...what I'm getting at is....Why couldn't they beat Georgia? 'specially after beating two weeks earlier.

[ItsAlive75]

Wow. I stopped watching the game cuz it was a lil' bit of a blowout. How did LSU go from that 5 turnover game against Florida to this??

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Wow. I stopped watching the game cuz it was a lil' bit of a blowout. How did LSU go from that 5 turnover game against Florida to this??


Inexperience...A bunch of guys who for the most part were Freshman and Sophmores last year and got little playing time, you put that together with a new head coach who changed the offense and you're going to have an up and down year but Saban's still intact defense kept them in and/or dominated every game.

I'm interested in what's going to happen in '07 when Saban's fingerprints are all but gone.

[ItsAlive75]

God, these are the shitty bowl games right now... NC St / USF or Fresno St/ Tulsa.... oooooo

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
God, these are the shitty bowl games right now... NC St / USF or Fresno St/ Tulsa.... oooooo


When's Iowa-Florida?

[ItsAlive75]

Monday at 11.... I'm not really lookin' forward to it.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Why not? Looks like a good match up, think it's gonna be a blow out?

[ItsAlive75]

We've just had a really disappointing year and I have the feeling it'll end that way too.

[AUSTIN316426808]

You could be right but I wanna see Drew Tate and Ed Hinkel one more time, Tate might come back but Hinkel's a senior so he's definately gone.

[ItsAlive75]

New entry: Good to see Rivers behind center for the Chargers.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
New entry: Good to see Rivers behind center for the Chargers.



That's the worst decision Marty's made all season.



p.s.
Also good to see the Broncos looking as though the 2 seed is a lock.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
That's the worst decision Marty's made all season.

I've been wanting to see this kid play for 2 years... and it looks laughably bad.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I've been wanting to see this kid play for 2 years... and it looks laughably bad.



Makes no sense, you know he isn't going to be there next year so there's no reason to take a look at him. They've got a 4th overall draft pick who's been sitting for 2 years behind what's turned out to be a great QB in Brees and one of the best coaches in history...that's trade gold. Now every team that's interested in him is watching every movement he makes which so far haven't been to good.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Since they took Jake out I guess they already have the 2 seed locked, for some reason I thought the Bengals were right there.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Finally...the NFC game didn't blackout on Fox and I don't have to deal with the Texans.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Finally...the NFC game didn't blackout on Fox and I don't have to deal with the Texans.

Green Bay?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Green Bay?



Not that lucky, got Falcons-Panthers but since it's a blowout I think they're gonna cut to Saints-Buccs.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Not that lucky, got Falcons-Panthers but since it's a blowout I think they're gonna cut to Saints-Buccs.

I got the Seattle / Green Bay game, GB's kinda pulling ahead but they have all their starters in and Seattle... doesn't. So I'm not taking it into account at all.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
I got the Seattle / Green Bay game, GB's kinda pulling ahead but they have all their starters in and Seattle... doesn't. So I'm not taking it into account at all.



Well, IF this is Brett's last game I(and I'm sure alot of other people) would like it to be a win, so it might not count for anything but a win at Lambeau is the right way for him to go.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Well, IF this is Brett's last game I(and I'm sure alot of other people) would like it to be a win, so it might not count for anything but a win at Lambeau is the right way for him to go.

Well that's just what he got... so if him winning his last game at Lambeau is what its gonna take for me to never see his face on a football field again, I'll allow it... cuz y'know, I have some sort of power of it.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Got the last 12 minutes of the Saints-Buccs, they played hard but gonna lose...story of the entire season. However, if the Texans win today we get the first pick in the draft and it looks like Haslett's gonna stay on and Duece is coming back so next season is promising as each of the last 6 only question is will it end like the last 6.

[ItsAlive75]

So far, so good.

Houston over 49ers, 10-0

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
So far, so good.

Houston over 49ers, 10-0



The game's on here(of course:( )and it's looking good, the niners are really stinking it up.

[ItsAlive75]

Well the Bears are playing their second string EVERYTHING and the Vikings are really pumped that they're winning... that's pissing me off more than the fact that the Bears are losing.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Well the Bears are playing their second string EVERYTHING and the Vikings are really pumped that they're winning... that's pissing me off more than the fact that the Bears are losing.


That's what happens when a team as shitty leadership and no class.

[AUSTIN316426808]

MVP- Shaun Alexander
Coach oty- Lovie Smith
Offensive poty- Shaun Alexander
Defensive poty- Brian Urlaucher/Dwight Freeney/Troy Polumalu
Offensive rookie oty- Cadillac Williams
Defensive rookie oty- Shawn Merriman


Who do you have?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Niners tied it up and David Carr looks like he's out for the game...oh well, Bush is out of the question but we'll still get Leinart so it's all good.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Well the Bears are playing their second string EVERYTHING and the Vikings are really pumped that they're winning... that's pissing me off more than the fact that the Bears are losing.

YES!!!! WE FUCKIN' RULED THE BEARS!!! GO VIKINGS!!! WE ARE THE GREATEST!!!



In related news....

YES!!! WE FUCKIN' FINALLY FIRED OUR DUMBASS COACH!!! TICE SUCKS!!!!

Next year, we'll have Matt Birk, Culpepper and Onterrio Smith back and no Coach Tice. The future's lookin' brighter already!

[AUSTIN316426808]

Well, Rose Bowl is over and I just have one thing to say...


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


34 game winning streak and 1 national championship is a good run though and they get all my respect for that.(except for Pete Carrol, he can burn to death for all I care)

[ItsAlive75]

Thank... GOD! Young is a BEAST, he is a BEAST... And WOW did that game live up to the hype. Lots of fumbles but it turned out to be a great shootout.

[AUSTIN316426808]

It was just like if not better than the Miami-BC game and sure enough the last one to have the ball won.(well, to have the ball with a real shot anyway.)


I think Young should stay...He'll win the Heisman,probably another national title(if Bush and Leinart couldn't keep him away then who can?) and he'll be the first pick in the draft.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808

I think Young should stay...He'll win the Heisman,probably another national title(if Bush and Leinart couldn't keep him away then who can?) and he'll be the first pick in the draft.

We all kept saying he looks like a physically fit Dante Culpepper. I agree, stick around, get more experience. Lock for Heisman if he comes close to duplicating this year.

[majorbludd]

nahh....he's gotta go now....a scrambling qb's gotta get paid before he gets hurt, sure it'd be nice to learn for a year and get a heisman but hed go in the top 3/4 picks right now....im jus prayin my dolphins trade picks to move up and get him or leinart.

[NECRO666]

I watch that game lastnight and Vince Young will be #1 pick then Bush and leinart. Most of us know Michale Vick is over rated but Vince Young isn't. he has the size he could pass and run. Vic Just run. Jet's might get Bush or Leinart, Texas get Bush, saints might get Young or Lions might get Young. ok my top 3 picks that might goto these teams. :D

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by majorbludd
nahh....he's gotta go now....a scrambling qb's gotta get paid before he gets hurt

Yeah, they can't get hurt in the NFL...

Dante Culpepper
Donovan McNabb
Michael Vick (hurts himself once or twice a season)

[majorbludd]

better they get hurt in the nfl....sos they already bought their bentleys and such....thats what i meant.

[bwind22]

I'm with MajorBludd here. Young just won the National Championship, what's left for him to accomplish? He should go pro right now.

Look at Leinart. He shoulda went pro last year and he woulda been almost a lock to go in the top 2 picks. Not so any more. Top 5 now, but not top 2. I think his decision to play that extra year in college ended up costing him some of the big money he coulda got had he entered the draft last year.

[AUSTIN316426808]

I disagree, stay in college under a great coach, step his passing up a bit more and win the Heisman.

I don't know if any of you guys saw the Heisman presentation but he was pissed that he didn't win and he wants that trophy, yeah he won a national championship but a Heisman trophy is just as big of an accomplishment.

If he stays I don't think there's any question that he'll win the Heisman and he'll probably be the first pick in the draft because he wont this year.

Leinart is still going in the top three, he won 34 straight games,a Heisman trophy and a national championship. That doesn't just go away after one game that he did very good in by the way. 6-5,225 pounds, durable,big arm,ridiculously accurate...that's what coaches and gms are looking at, not one half where he was thrown off by a good pash rush.

Bush,Leinart.....there's your top 2 unless the Texans trade out to take Furgueson but with a new coach coming in I doubt that'll happen.

[bwind22]

I really dont think Leinarts going as high as you think, but we'll see what happens.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bwind22
I really dont think Leinarts going as high as you think, but we'll see what happens.



Saints have the second pick in the draft and assuming Young comes out he and Leinart are the top 2 QBs, they aren't going to take a copy of Brooks(why they're getting rid of him in the first place is a complete and utter fucking mystery) so that leaves Leinart.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Saints have the second pick in the draft and assuming Young comes out he and Leinart are the top 2 QBs, they aren't going to take a copy of Brooks(why they're getting rid of him in the first place is a complete and utter fucking mystery) so that leaves Leinart.

Dude Brooks sucks! If I were you I'd be thrilled to be getting rid of him! His inconsistency is a big part of the Saints rough year (That, and that Hurricane Katrina thing taking away all their home games.)

Like I said, I don't agree on Leinart going that early. Alot can happen between now and draft day and who knows if the Saints will even still have #2 pick?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bwind22
Dude Brooks sucks! If I were you I'd be thrilled to be getting rid of him! His inconsistency is a big part of the Saints rough year (That, and that Hurricane Katrina thing taking away all their home games.)

Like I said, I don't agree on Leinart going that early. Alot can happen between now and draft day and who knows if the Saints will even still have #2 pick?



Statistics don't lie, since 2000 he's been one of the top QBs in the league.

As for the draft pick unless you're talking about the Saints trading the pick they'll have it. All the pick positions of the non playoff teams are locked. I heavily doubt they'll trade the pick away and if they don't they're taking a QB.

Never understand how people can look at these bowl games and throw out everything a guys done not to mention he had a good game.

[bwind22]

I didn't even watch the Bowl game. I'm just saying his stock would have been higher had he entered the draft year as opposed to this year. I think he woulda got paid better too.

Brooks a top QB? He hasn't even had a decent year since 2003 and even then, I'd put him around the bottom of the Top 10 QBs.

Brooks hasn't ever really looked impressive to me, but after you said he was one of the QBs, I looked up his numbers from the last couple years.... Nope, still not impressive.


2005 - 13 games played, 13 TDs, 17 INTs, 222 yards/game, QB Rating of 70.0

Nothing spectacular there...

2004 - 16 games played, 21 TDs, 16 INTs, 238 yards/game, QB Rating of 79.5

Better than '05, but still pretty run of the mill numbers here...



Leinart or Young would be a step up for sure.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by bwind22
Dude Brooks sucks! If I were you I'd be thrilled to be getting rid of him! His inconsistency is a big part of the Saints rough year

Don't forget their defense that gave up points on 19 straight possessions at one point... pretty bad.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bwind22
I didn't even watch the Bowl game. I'm just saying his stock would have been higher had he entered the draft year as opposed to this year. I think he woulda got paid better too.

Brooks a top QB? He hasn't even had a decent year since 2003 and even then, I'd put him around the bottom of the Top 10 QBs.

Brooks hasn't ever really looked impressive to me, but after you said he was one of the QBs, I looked up his numbers from the last couple years.... Nope, still not impressive.


2005 - 13 games played, 13 TDs, 17 INTs, 222 yards/game, QB Rating of 70.0

Nothing spectacular there...

2004 - 16 games played, 21 TDs, 16 INTs, 238 yards/game, QB Rating of 79.5

Better than '05, but still pretty run of the mill numbers here...



Leinart or Young would be a step up for sure.


I'm talking about what I've seen him do and what analist say. I keep up with stats but not like they do on the various football shows on ESPN, that's where I heard it.

[AUSTIN316426808]

I don't see how his stock has gone down but whatever, He's had just as good of a season as he did last year, as a matter of fact he's got a better QB rating than he did last year.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Firing Haslett was stupid, the man's a good coach and they never gave him the team he needed to win. For the year he did have the type of team he wanted the Saints had they're best season in franchise history.

[ItsAlive75]

I hate Tom Brady.

"We're the most disrespected team in the NFL."

??? You're an idiot, Brady. A pretty-boy idiot. Go do a credit card commercial.

[NECRO666]

The reason you hate Brady bc he keeps on winning unlike what ever team you go for. 10-0 in playoffs and still no R.E.S.P.E.C.T KNOCK,KNOCK...who's there..New England,..New England who. New England Patriots that gonna kick down your door. :D .ok that was dumb but hey where still in the game. And FREE WILLIE 4 1/2 sacks nfl recored. Again if anybody who has a shity Qb would love to have Brady and you know it so don't say he sux and is a bum. Oh yea Michale Vic is OVER-RATED. :D

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by NECRO666
10-0 in playoffs and still no R.E.S.P.E.C.T



I'm with IA, nobody's disrespecting the Patriots, all everybody was saying while they were struggling the first half of the season is if they put a few wins together they could be a dangerous team in the playoffs. No respect?...if anything they got too much respect for a team that was nothing short of a pathetic shell of their old self the first half of the season.

[Taom]

go Panthers

just wanted to put my 2 cents in:cool:

[Nana_baby]

cinci vs pitt
dirty game

[Taom]

I'm at work, just watching the live stats on superbowl.com. what's goin on?

[AmericanManiac]

A lot of pushing and shoving !

[Nana_baby]

dude is pitt losiing cuz if so get ready to here me scream a lot of shit

[majorbludd]

john kitnas goin somewhere next year.....and startin'....miami?

[Taom]

17-14 cinn up with 11 mins left in the 3rd

[AmericanManiac]

yes they are losing 17 - 14 10 mins left in the 3rd
posted the same damn time as me
Palmers 1st playoff pass led him to a torn ACL and will beout until next year.

[AmericanManiac]

WOW did you just see that high snap ??? Bengals were kicking field goal high snap and they didnt get nothing out of it !!! Steelers BALL !!!!!!

[AUSTIN316426808]

Carson Palmer's out 'til next year so the Bengals Super Bowl hopes are gone.

[AmericanManiac]

21-17 steelers take the lead !

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by majorbludd
john kitnas goin somewhere next year.....and startin'....miami?



Once again don't see how people take one game(in this case only one half) of exceptional play and project it into future success.

[AmericanManiac]

Please tell me someone just seen that amazing play !

28 - 17 steelers

[AUSTIN316426808]

Game over, bye bye Bengals

[Nana_baby]

srry ya i am so fukin happy my team is not losin

[Nana_baby]

interception

[Taom]

somebody woke up the steelers. I was on lunch so I actually got to watch a bit of the game instead of watching the live stats online. 31-17

[Nana_baby]

HOLY SHIT!
i think i guest had a heartattck

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Taom
somebody woke up the steelers. I was on lunch so I actually got to watch a bit of the game instead of watching the live stats online. 31-17



They were never asleep, when Kitna came in for Palmer they got a different offense than they were ready for, after they made their adjustments that was it.

[Nana_baby]

wave them terrible towls ya!WAVE EM' or i'll shoot....j/k

[Taom]

final score 31-17 steelers

get ready for next weekend

sat- New England at Denver
Washington at Seattle

sun- Carolina at Chicago should be one hell of a game
Pittsburgh at Indianapolis

[Nana_baby]

keep me posted ya

[ItsAlive75]

Well, I have to say it... what a shitty lot of Wild Card games. A shutout, a fuckin' Patriots win, a "defensive showdown", and a game won by injuries.

Blaugh.

[Nana_baby]

ne sux now

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Nana_baby
ne sux now

Not really. They've won 6 out of their last 8 games and slaughtered a pretty good defense in their first playoff round.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
and a game won by injuries.

Blaugh.


You didn't think the Steelers had a shot with Palmer in?

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
You didn't think the Steelers had a shot with Palmer in?

Nope. You saw Kitna, once the second half rolled around the Steelers had completely adapted to the scheme. Kitna was forced to make awkward throws and they couldn't run the ball, then Kitna got noticably rattled.

I think with Palmer in, stronger arm, more familiar with the offense, Bengals win. Hell, even the play he got injured on was completed.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Nope. You saw Kitna, once the second half rolled around the Steelers had completely adapted to the scheme. Kitna was forced to make awkward throws and they couldn't run the ball, then Kitna got noticably rattled.

I think with Palmer in, stronger arm, more familiar with the offense, Bengals win. Hell, even the play he got injured on was completed.



I guess you're right but I was kinda torn then once he got hurt I didn't think they had much of a chance.

[NECRO666]

Dam I missed the Steelers game, I thought it was on 8pm. I seen the Giants getting there ass kicked today. That game was qick shit. :D Taking nothing away from Denver but it still might be again Colts & Patriots for AFC, If they make it. Which I think the pats will there #1 on rusg defense I think. The pass still has problems, but they did to well angiest the jags WR's. they where bigger and taller than the pats cb's. The steelers where lucky that the Cinni- was sleep later on. They better not do that when they face the colts. The patriots has to strike qick and not drop or miss passes plus dillion has to start getting some yards in. The Patriots & Broncos are on Sat (I think)

[Taom]

Originally posted by Taom

get ready for next weekend

sat- New England at Denver
Washington at Seattle

sun- Carolina at Chicago should be one hell of a game
Pittsburgh at Indianapolis


This is next weekends schedule

[AmericanManiac]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75

I think with Palmer in, stronger arm, more familiar with the offense, Bengals win. Hell, even the play he got injured on was completed.
Of course he didn't get hurt until after he threw the ball :D

[newb]

I usually don't follow hockey, but i'm gonna have to go with the Pats all the way again. [ i live in New England....i have NO choice ]

[AUSTIN316426808]

Random entry....


Just saw that the Titans have the 3rd pick in the draft so now I'm convinced.....Bush,Leinart,Young.


-Even if the Texans trade out to the Jets Bush will go first. Curtis Martin injured his leg and had season ending surgery not to mention he's not getting any younger.

-The Saints have cut ties to inconsistent Aaron Brooks and what's more consistent than leading a 34 game winning streak on one of the best offenses in the history of college football.

-McNair has finally reached the point where he just can't finish a season but will probably return for another and who better for him to mentor into his place than...well...him. A year on the bench behind a veteran QB with playoff expierence and an MVP under his belt could only help Young's unlimited potential.


To finish off the top 5...

-Jets lost Kareem McKenzie to free agency and their passing game went to hell so they'll go with D‘Brickashaw Ferguson who'll take care of the left side for the next decade.

-Tamba Hali or Mario Williams could go at 5 to the Packers, their young secondary suffered this year mainly do to lack of a decent pass rush. Imo opinion it's a toss up between the two.

[AUSTIN316426808]

What's your picks for this weekend?

I got the..

'Hawks
Bears
Patriots
Colts

I'm only actually going for the Bears.

[ItsAlive75]

Seahawks
Broncos
Bears
Colts

Home teams 'cross the board.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Seahawks
Broncos
Bears
Colts

Home teams 'cross the board.


Hope you're right except for the Colts, I don't have a problem with 'em but the Broncos can't beat 'em. On the other hand if they get the Steelers at home they'll probably win the Super Bowl.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
What's your picks for this weekend?

I got the..

'Hawks
Bears
Patriots
Colts

I'm only actually going for the Bears.


Cancel that, Broncos already beat the Pats. I'm going with the Broncos.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Cancel that, Broncos already beat the Pats. I'm going with the Broncos.

True, just remember. Last time they met it was 28-20 Broncos, and the Pats were missing 7 starters. I still agree, and I still think the Broncos win, but this is gonna be a completely new game.

...VERY excited to see it though. This is a great divisional round this year, good matchups.

[newb]

Sorry guys.....Pats all the way.








like i said.....i have NO choice.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by newb
Sorry guys.....Pats all the way.








like i said.....i have NO choice.

It's cool, gotta respect the hometown attitude.

Trust me. I mean, I had to be a Bears fan for all those years.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
True, just remember. Last time they met it was 28-20 Broncos, and the Pats were missing 7 starters. I still agree, and I still think the Broncos win, but this is gonna be a completely new game.

...VERY excited to see it though. This is a great divisional round this year, good matchups.


I didn't think about the injuries and when you add on the experience level of the two teams it almost throws all favor to the Pats. I'm still going with the Broncos though, I think as long as Jake,Williams and Fox(don't remember his full name) don't spaz under playoff pressure they'll be fine.

Plummer has playoff experience and he beat the mid 90s Cowboys with a far less talented team so I think he'll be cool.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
It's cool, gotta respect the hometown attitude.

Trust me. I mean, I had to be a Bears fan for all those years.



Quite your whinnin', I'm from New Orleans.


@Newb- gotta go with the home team, just glad you're not one of those bandwagon jumpers.

[majorbludd]

THIS IS WHO I GOT

SEA-9.5
DEN-3
PIT+9
CAR+3

WITH AN ACCENT ON PITT/SEA.....IM COMFIEST WITH THOSE 2

[AUSTIN316426808]

People are picking the Steelers but not that many as certainly not as confidently.

Why so sure? The layoff?


Last time they played Bob Sanders practically single handedly stopped their running game, if he does the same the result will be the same.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
People are picking the Steelers but not that many as certainly not as confidently.

Why so sure? The layoff?


Last time they played Bob Sanders practically single handedly stopped their running game, if he does the same the result will be the same.

Coolest tackles I've seen this year, that IOWA boy is faaaast.

In regards to Pit, the only way they can win is if they hold on to the ball. And I don't think they're gonna get to... Colts defense is too quick.

[majorbludd]

THE WAY I SEE IT....INDY HASN'T PLAYED TO WIN SINCE THEY LOST TO SAN DIEGO 28 DAYS AGO....AT LEAST THATS THE LAST TIME THEIR BIG STARTERS PLAYED MORE THAN A QUARTER, YOU COULD SAY THAT MEANS THEY'RE RESTED BUT IF YOU LOOK THEY WERE COLD, AND BARELY BEAT JAX/CLE BOTH @ HOME THE FIRST COUPLE WEEKS (WHICH IS AS RESTED AND HEALTHY AS A TEAM CAN BE)OF THE SEASON....WHAT IM SAYIN' IS I THINK THERE'LL BE RUST....IM GUESSIN THEY WIN BUT NOT BY MORE THAN 9.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by majorbludd
AND BARELY BEAT JAX/CLE BOTH @ HOME THE FIRST COUPLE WEEKS (WHICH IS AS RESTED AND HEALTHY AS A TEAM CAN BE)OF THE SEASON

I wouldn't call it rested, it's the beginning of the season. The players aren't fully adapted to the game yet.

[majorbludd]

THAN THAT'D BE ANOTHER ARGUMENT FOR PITT....I MEAN THEY HAD TO WIN IN WEEK 17 TO GET A WILD CARD....THEY PLAYED MEANINGFUL GAMES EVERY WEEK....ITS LIKE IN BASEBALL, A TEAM LIKE THE CARDINALS BEAT THE HELL OUTTA EVERYBODY, LOCK UP THEIR DIVISION 6 WEEKS BEFORE THE REG SEASON IS FINSHED, THEY END UP FLAT IN THE POSTSEASON.

THIS IS ALL A MOOT POINT, IF INDYS WINNIN 17-3 AT THE END OF THE 1ST QUARTER, AND MY THEORYS FOR SHIT!

[ItsAlive75]

New point- Washington's really bringing pressure to the Seahawks... but Brunell can't fuckin' throw, I think he's lost his confidence.

[AmericanManiac]

Beautiful 100 yard interception return by champ baily for the denver broncos !The pats are finally going down !!!

[newb]

Not looking good for the Pats.


Thank god...i can get back to watching horror movies.

[ItsAlive75]

And now I don't have to listen to every football announcer sucking off Tom Brady.

So far my predictions are 2 for 2... I'm like Chris Berman.

[NECRO666]

It was a good run for the Patriots no 3peat give credet to the Broncos. Im not blameing the reffs on some fucked up calls and some face masks by denver that wasn't called, it was the turn overs that killed the pats. can't wait for the new season. 3 Sb is still better than any team playing today. Now we have BOARING racing nascar coming soon. YAWN!!!! Look for the pats get a new RB i think USC RB white (for got name) and some defense help dillion will retire and maybe bruschi and some others. Denver you beat the team no let see you win the big game.

[AmericanManiac]

I'm excited it's going to be a tought game today for my steelers. I think colts will get them though, if it were in pittsburgh we would have a better chance. It's all about the fans.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by AmericanManiac
It's all about the fans.


That's ridiculous.

[majorbludd]

I JUST SAW THE BETTIS FUMBLE.....THE COLTS ARE YOUR SUPER BOWL CHAMPS, AND THEY ARE PURE BULLSHIT.

[majorbludd]

WIDE RIGHT!!!

[Taom]

What the hell just happened?

I'm at work, watching the game via live stats online. I thought the colts would win for sure. Seems to me they were fucking asleep.

[Nana_baby]

STEELER SHUT DOWN THE CULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got i totally need a beer and a good smoke

[ItsAlive75]

Shut down?

The Colts lost by 3.

[Nana_baby]

look i just her my mom yellin that they were shut down so i got all beside myself and now i am pissed so i will have to slap you now


*walks over and slaps you with my backhand*

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Nana_baby
look i just her my mom yellin that they were shut down so i got all beside myself and now i am pissed so i will have to slap you now


*walks over and slaps you with ny backhand*

*turns around and hands Nana a dictionary*

[Nana_baby]

asshole!!!!!
SO what i can't spell why do you think i never made it in a spellingbee? ftf no comment needed!!!
!@#$%^&^%$#@
*takes book and burns it!*

[majorbludd]

THE NFL OWES THE STEELERS AND PANTHERS APOLOGIES MONDAY MORNIN.....POMALU INTERCEPTION, GAGE FUMBLE--PEPPERS TD.....DOGSHIT.

[NECRO666]

What a fucking crazy game. The Bus fumble at Colt 3yard, VanderJerk 6/6 for fg and VanderJerk miss and Once again Peyton Manning still has the monkey on his back. lol. Just think if the Steelers win the sb Big Ben 23yr old would be the youngest qb to win SB passing Brady 25yr old. But denver is playing good football So there gonna be ppl fav to goto SB. looks like the panthers might win and face Seahawks. Panthers vs Denver SB 40. Has a Pat fan it's funny seeing manning not reaching the top.. AGAIN!!! :D

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by majorbludd
GAGE FUMBLE--PEPPERS TD.....DOGSHIT.

awwwwwwww

[Nana_baby]

Damn straight!!!NFL owes the steelers an apology they were so out of line acording to my mum(she is a steelers fanatic)

[AmericanManiac]

I thought I was going to have a damn heart attack watching that steeler game (i'm a steeler fan) I was getting so angry I couldn't believe bettis fumbled that shit but ben made a nice tackle to stop that guy from running all the way for a TD. I think we will be denver and be in the SB !

[Nana_baby]

dude i will keep my figers crossed

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AmericanManiac
I thought I was going to have a damn heart attack watching that steeler game (i'm a steeler fan) I was getting so angry I couldn't believe bettis fumbled that shit but ben made a nice tackle to stop that guy from running all the way for a TD. I think we will be denver and be in the SB !

Unfortunately I agree. I think Denver won against the Pats by ref incompetence (that pass interference was iffy to say the least). I don't think they have a good shot against Pitts' defense.

[Nana_baby]

agreed....Pitts' deffence does put a hurting on other ppls teams

[ItsAlive75]

Fuckin' Bears...

[Nana_baby]

come again

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by majorbludd
POMALU INTERCEPTION



Alan Faneca moved the series before and wasn't called for it on a 4th down. Bill Cowher WAS NOT going to go for it on 4th and 6 but since it wasn't called it remained 4th and inches and the Steelers picked up the first down allowing the drive to continue and run an extra 3 minutes off the clock. By my calculation the Steelers owe the NFL a thank you.

[Nana_baby]

BITE MY 'he owes the nfl a thank you'

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Nana_baby
BITE MY 'he owes the nfl a thank you'



Like I said, Faneca moved and wasn't called for it. Had it been called the Steelers would've punted and gave the ball back to the Colts with an extra 3 minutes or so left on the clock. That was a much more important play than the ''interception''. If you can't see that then oh well.

[Nana_baby]

yea i saw it but the steelers stoped the cults and in my mind thatz all that matters

[Zero]

My amazing prophetic powers tell me:


Denver beats Pittsburgh; Carolina beats Seattle -

Carolina best Denver in a very close superbowl.


(i'd appreciate 10% of all the monies you win using my amazing predictions)

[Nana_baby]

if that happens remind me to stangle you okay?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Nana_baby
yea i saw it but the steelers stoped the cults and in my mind thatz all that matters


Well, if that's the case then you shouldn't have said anything in the first place.

[Nana_baby]

ture but i like to argue is that ans issue?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Nana_baby
ture but i like to argue is that ans issue?


Do what you do I guess.

[Haunted]

You know, Chicago got away with a little bit last night. We still beat them, but we didn't kick their ass. So, I can also say that Chicago played a good game. My dad just wants to play the Redskins here in Charlotte.

...*Wonders if dad is offended by the name, Redskins...*

[Nana_baby]

thanx:D

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Haunted
You know, Chicago got away with a little bit last night.


And so did you guys.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by Haunted
You know, Chicago got away with a little bit last night. We still beat them, but we didn't kick their ass. So, I can also say that Chicago played a good game. My dad just wants to play the Redskins here in Charlotte.

...*Wonders if dad is offended by the name, Redskins...*

POINT 1:Home teams always get away with more... Jones' dive to the endzone for one. Luckily that facemask helped out.

But I hope somebody runs Steve Smith over with a truck.

POINT 2: Why the shit did Pitt run it with a minute + left in the game? Waste the Colts' timeouts, kick a fieldgoal, let your D stop Manning.

POINT 3: It's the Indianapolis COLTS, not Cults. The COLTS.

[majorbludd]

Originally posted by majorbludd
THIS IS WHO I GOT

SEA-9.5
DEN-3
PIT+9
CAR+3

WITH AN ACCENT ON PITT/SEA.....IM COMFIEST WITH THOSE 2

that was me gang, saturday afternoon.....if i had balls id be money....or is it the other way around?

[bwind22]

Originally posted by majorbludd
THE NFL OWES THE STEELERS AND PANTHERS APOLOGIES MONDAY MORNIN.....POMALU INTERCEPTION, GAGE FUMBLE--PEPPERS TD.....DOGSHIT.

Agreed. Those were both horrible calls. There was some terrible offiiciating this weekend. Fuckin' terrible.

[majorbludd]

i tell you what....the nfl is almost like a video game....if one team gets a fumble recovery, eventually the other gets one.....ever since the tom brady "tuck rule" against oakland in the snow, shit seems sorta trivial....and i cant stomach this "football move" that a receiver needs to make to complete a reception....or even if a guy catches a ball diving out of the endzone and has complete control of the ball tucks it and lands on it.....THERES JUST TOO MUCH GREY AREA, AND RULES BEING INTERPRETED......its too much to put on a refs shoulders, i like the idea behind challenges, but i think they need to scrap instant replay altogether.....it seems like the difference between a win and a loss in these playoff games can be decided by a big turnover...or a big play....its like a wins not a win unless you convincingly kick another teams ass.....see pit vs indy, friggin asswhooping that almost went to overtime(where im sure indy woulda won)and a horrible call led to that possibility.

[AUSTIN316426808]

The tuck rule is in the rule book, a ref can't just make up any call he wants. The reason officials get tighter and you may here some rules or see some calls you haven't heard or seen made around playoff time is because it's the fucking playoffs to decide who's going to play in the Super Bowl to become the champions. When something goes down they look at it very carefully, and examine the rules to make sure they make the right call which is what they do about 98% of the time, nobody's perfect so naturally they're going to miss a couple. Same goes for the football move, it's a rule which has to be enforced.

Catches don't have that much grey area....both feet down,ball isn't moving and/or if the reciever is forced out of the endzone then it's a touchdown. Don't have both feet down,balls moving, ball is knocked loose before possession is established and held for 2 seconds and/or 2 steps(which is now know as a football move) then there's no catch.


Of course games can be decided by a big turnover or big play, that's part of the game. This is the playoffs every team in them is good if not great, the games are expected to be good/close and sometimes watching NFL live,Sportscenter or pre-game shows ect. You even here alot that a game may come down do turnovers and who takes care of the ball more. It doesn't mean that you didn't win convincingly or you didn't prove yourself(or however you want to say it), it just means that one particular team played hard and cause the turnover or big play, that's what you do on defense...try and shut the offense down and if possible create a turnover and on offense....try your best to put points on the board. Big turnovers are the result of a hard working defense and big plays are the results of a hard working offense/special tems unit, it's a part of the game.

Another comment about this statement "its like a wins not a win unless you convincingly kick another teams ass"....

Games not over until it's over.... over doesn't mean when one team has played better, over doesn't mean a team has a 2,3 or however many touchdown lead, over means the clock reads 0:00. If a team can't close than it's their problem, why do you think the Chargers aren't in the playoffs? cause they couldn't close out games early and midway through the season. If a team dominates the entire game and loses it in the last minutes then they deserved to lose because it mean they either layed back and got content and/or just didn't want it enough to close it out.


"friggin asswhooping that almost went to overtime(where im sure indy woulda won)and a horrible call led to that possibility"

Like I said if a team can't close that's their problem, so had it gone into overtime and resulted in a Colts victory after Steeler dominance through 3 and a half quarters then the Steelers would've deserved to lose. As for the call I've said it twice already but here's goes one more time...The series before that Faneca moved on 4th and inches and wasn't called for it, that play would've made it 4th and 5 or 6. Bill Cowher IS NOT going for it on 4th and 5, they would've punted back to the Colts who's offense was up and running(which is why Cowher decided to go on 4th and inches in the first place) with an additional 3 minutes or so left on the clock. That was a much bigger play than the ''interception''.

[bwind22]

The refs were on Indy's side and it was fuckin' obvious. I'm glad Porter called them out on it because they were trying their damnedest to hand the game over to Indy in the 4th quarter there.

After seeing the refs try to hand the game to Indy, I was thrilled when Pittsburgh hung on to win.

Austin - The NFL ackowledged the terrible call on the Palamaulo (sp?) interception, but they didn't say anything else about any other missed calls. To me, that tells me this one stood out as far and away the worst, most blatant one.

Notice I said, the NFL 'acknowledged' and not 'apologized', like they should of.

P.S. - Pete Morelli is either on the Colts payroll or he's incompetent. Either way, he should get fired.

[majorbludd]

the faneca non call was huge.....however in live real time it wasnt blatant that the guard moved, we did however see more than 1 colt cross the line of scrimmage and make contact with the offense....and everything you say is pretty accurate,(austin) however...lets forget about the bettis fumble in the end....subtract those 8 pts the colts scored on that drive and give palmolive the pick....it's so deflating for the colts whose offense was on the bench for so long....footballs a very emotional game, we as fans get crazy in our homes or our local bars, but imagine whats goin through the heads and hearts of these players....the rules are the rules....and i can bet a flag could be thrown on every play if they wanted to.....in real speed watching an entire offensive line for holding and hands to the face,etc...may be down right impossible.... but momentum is everything, and when you're on your hometurf.....things will go your way. and sometimes, but not usually in the 4th quarter with 3/4 mins left against you.....that being said, as a fan, and my team didn't make the playoffs, and im not an indy hater by any stretch....although my franchise was relieved to see them not go undefeated......i wouldve put an asterisk in my own memory bank next to a win for the colts if they had prevailed in overtime.....the game sorta reminded me of the rams/pats superbowl a few years ago....pats stymied those guys for 3 quarters then they woke....i remember feelin' the same then...if that super bowl went to ot the rams wouldve been victorious having had MOMENTUM the last 15 mins of regulation, only that game if i remember didn't necessitate a ridiculous call to get stlouis going.

i guess im a meathead, and like al bundy i had a successful high school football career but opted for a party school when it came to college so i could watch b horror movies and eat mushrooms, but todays nfl and im sure this bodes trues for yesteryear as well, human error exists and the refs do there best to call a fair contest, but after being under the hood for 10 minutes in this stupid fuckin' dome not to get a call right, that a fuckin widower with glaucoma in his rocking chair watching the game on his 13 inch tv acknowledges even before he gets a replay is utter dogshit.....and another thing....totally unrelated what ever happened to the ground cant cause a fumble?

[AUSTIN316426808]

You've mentioned the Bettis fumble and the interception again but the Faneca no call is still the biggest play because unlike all the other incidents that's the only one that took time off the clock.

Personally I see it has even, refs messed up ran valuable time off the clock when the Colts were supposed to get the ball back with. On the other hand the refs messed up a call for the Steelers that was potentially game ending. Steelers caught a huge break,Colts caught a huge break.

And you're right, when you're at home things will go your way more that's why everybody want's homefield in the playoffs and that's why during the season 9 out of 10 times the home team is the favorite. Early timeouts,false starts,a call here and there,momentum from the crowd...all of those things are completely expected to happen only in this case,some in the past and undoubtly still to come in the future a couple big calls were screwed up.

I know how important momentum is and like I said before, game's over when the clock reads 0:00. You don't just play well for 15,30,45 or 59 minutes, you have to play well the entire game. I don't care who's home and away, how good or bad the teams are, if you're winning with an even minute left and you somehow end up on the losing end unless the refs are making bad call after bad call(see that I'm saying bad calls and not just calls because if a team is moved down the field for the most part due to sloppy play by the other team than that's their fault.) you deserve to lose because you didn't want it more.

I'm well aware that football is emotional, well aware of the importance of momentum and well aware of what goes through their heart and mind. The only way something can deflate you is if you let it.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bwind22
Notice I said, the NFL 'acknowledged' and not 'apologized', like they should of.



Of course they did it's the on that stood out the most, doesn't make it the more important just makes it the one everybody remembers.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Who's going to the Super Bowl?


Seahawks - Panthers

'Hawks- Better offense, 9-0 at home(counting a playoff W).

Panthers- Better defense, 4-0 on the road in the playoffs under Fox and Delhomme.



Broncos - Steelers

Very close matchup, speed vs. power.

Both are top 5 in rushing(Den. #2,Pitt. #5), both are top 5 against the rush(Den. #2,Pitt. #3).

Broncos have homefield, Steelers have won 2 on the road.

They both just knocked off the 2 teams nobody wanted to face in the playoffs.

Broncos have the best corner in the league, Steelers have the best safety in the league.(you can make a case for Ed Reed who creates turnovers and is great in coverage or Bob Sanders who's the faster of the three, is great in run support and hits like a truck. But Polamaulu is the total package...great in both coverage and run support, makes his share of big plays and also has the bonus of being a pretty good pass rusher as well.)

The Broncos have Al Wilson and DJ Williams, 2/3 of the fastest linebacking corp in the league...Steelers have Joey Porter and James Farrior, 2/3(sometimes 2/4) of the best blitzing linebacking corp in the league.

I could go on but you get the point, it's an even match with two different styles.


My picks- Broncos/Panthers.

[Nana_baby]

24-3 STEELERS lead the GAME!!!

[AmericanManiac]

To answer your questions it looks like my steelers are going to win the superbowl !

[Haunted]

As long as the Panthers don't get cocky, they'll be okay. Everytime those fuckers get cocky they loose.

As a North Carolinian, I hope the Panthers win, but I doubt they will.

[Nana_baby]

heheheh..Aww haunted i hope they make it i need a really good laugh

[ItsAlive75]

God damn Steelers....

Well, at least when Big Ben played Iowa back in the U of Miami OH days we beat the pants off of him.

[Nana_baby]

STEELERS ARE GOING HOME......DETROIT HERE WE COME.....
man me and my mum were almost in tears

[RavageRitual]

FUCKIN RIGHT!!!

GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Haunted]

Looks like I was right. The Panthers are getting their butts kicked.

[NECRO666]

Since the pastriots where out, i picked Steelers & Panthers, but now since seahawks flying all over the panthers. I guess i was half wrong. :D maybe if the panthers had there top runner and other top reciver, this game maybe more close than it is now. Just think Ben Roethlisberger 23yrs could be the youngest QB ever to win a SuperBowl. Supasing Tom Brady 25yrs old. well steelers it's about time. lol

[zomb5150]

"HERE WE GO STEELERS"

[ItsAlive75]

Wow, big Steelers bandwagon goin' on around here.

I'm NFC all the way, go Seahawks. Hasselback is matured a hell of a lot since the beginning of the program there, Alexander is actually RUNNING (gasp) in the POSTSEASON, great all-around game against the Panthers (handled Steve Smith perfectly)...

Go Seahawks.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808



My picks- Broncos/Panthers.



Well,that's the last time I go with the logical choices.

[NECRO666]

I really don't care who wins, screw the Steelers and Seahawks. My team and all ways will be the New England Patriots. but give the steelers credet for being a #6seed and fist time advanse to SB. now let's see they do better than the patriots (Eason). That game sucked when i seen it. Rember the pats where the first team to win on the road and goto the superbowl until the steelers did it.

[zomb5150]

The Steelers Kick Ass, the Patriots time in the sun is over, it is the dawning of a new era.:D

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by NECRO666
Rember the pats where the first team to win on the road and goto the superbowl until the steelers did it.


Stop trying to hold on with 20 year old stats, it's over,the Pats are done. You can hop off the jock until August.

[NECRO666]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Stop trying to hold on with 20 year old stats, it's over,the Pats are done. You can hop off the jock until August. Holding what 20 year old stat, im just saying what the steelers did when they are the secound team in nfl history to goto a superbowl on the road. the patriots are not over (next season). moron

[Zero]

well - i'm listening to arsenal sputtering against wigan in the semis of the league cup - but i'm not sure who tehse 'steelers' are


:D

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by NECRO666
Holding what 20 year old stat, im just saying what the steelers did when they are the secound team in nfl history to goto a superbowl on the road. the patriots are not over (next season). moron


Obviously you're the moron because anyone else would've realized that I meant over for this season.

[RavageRitual]

cant we all just get along....

[ItsAlive75]

Sportscenter is saying Bettis won't be able to focus on the game because he's going back to Detroit, like that's gonna make him play badly. He's going to play badly because he's OLD AND HIS LEGS DON'T WORK ANYMORE! Look at the guy in practice or after games, he looks like he wants to commit suicide.

Win or lose, I call this the last gasp for Jerome Bettis.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Zero
well - i'm listening to arsenal sputtering against wigan in the semis of the league cup - but i'm not sure who tehse 'steelers' are


:D

oh my god - my beloved arsenal has LOST to woeful wigan wanderers - i'm giving up all sports

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
He's going to play badly because he's OLD AND HIS LEGS DON'T WORK ANYMORE!


His feet are still quick and he still bounces off tackles. He was hurt about a quarter of a season and the season after the same injury was still hanging around so he split time early in the year until ultimately sitting the rest out. So he was injured in one specific place but it allowed the rest of his body to get a break from the 10+ straight seasons.

When he fully came back from that injury he got 900 yards splitting time with two other backs which is pretty damn good, just like when Jamal Lewis went out in training camp with the leg then came back the next season and racked up 2000. Of course Jerome even with the time off was still aged so you wouldn't expect him to get 2000.

At that point in his career I'd say splitting with 1 guy helped him but take away the third(which imo wasn't really needed,but still a good game plan)and he's coming away with about 1300 yards.

Yada yada yada...point is I think he's still a good player and an important part of the offense,although I do agree that he's gone after the Super Bowl win or lose because while he might have some value left it's rapidly declining.

[AmericanManiac]

The pic says it all.


http://www.maniacs-horror.com/maniac02.jpg

[allmykids]

SEAHAWKS FOREVER!!! :D

[Haunted]

My folks just bought a plasma screen tv. We're having a major party here. I don't know if I'm excited about that or not.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Don't know about anybody else but I can't stand the neccesary evil of having 2 weeks before the Super Bowl.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Donovan McNabb and Terrell Owens both need to just shut the fuck up.

[hammerfan]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Donovan McNabb and Terrell Owens both need to just shut the fuck up.

I couldn't agree more. They're sounding like a couple of whiney biatches. I'm very disappointed in Donovan. Up til now he took the high road and kept his mouth shut. Shame he didn't stick with that policy.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by hammerfan
I couldn't agree more. They're sounding like a couple of whiney biatches. I'm very disappointed in Donovan. Up til now he took the high road and kept his mouth shut. Shame he didn't stick with that policy.


I don't really have a problem with Donovan speaking up. I just don't understand why he waited 'til now, Owens screwed that lockeroom up during the season and that's when Donovan should've stepped up and confronted him.

Don't wait until it doesn't mean a damn thing, he's the leader of the team and should've tried to patch things up. I'm not saying he shoulda got into a fight with him or something of that nature but pull him aside and talk man to man. Him saying something now is just adding fuel to a useless fire.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Don't wait until it doesn't mean a damn thing, he's the leader of the team and should've tried to patch things up. I'm not saying he shoulda got into a fight with him or something of that nature but pull him aside and talk man to man. Him saying something now is just adding fuel to a useless fire.

I'll chock that up to frustration over a terrible season and surgery.

...or he's just been too busy making Chunky soup commercials to speak up.

[AUSTIN316426808]

LSU- Kicked Arizona's ass.

Iowa- goalline stand for the win.

Good Saturday.

[Spec7ral]

Carolina will win tomorrow and Minnesota on Monday and then all will be right in th NFC. 'Zona is the dark horse bitches so fuck the seahawks. AFC darkhorse is baltimore. And fuck the manning bowl, that shit is for people who love Marino style QB's ( all reg season no post-greezin') Also beware New Orleans. let the games begin.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by Spec7ral
Minnesota on Monday

Fuckin' right.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Spec7ral
Also beware New Orleans.




The fuck have you been smoking?

[bwind22]

T-minus 50 minutes and counting until the real NFL season begins....


1 game 3 days before the rest of them is comparable to being blueballed by the NFL in my opinion... Such a tease.

[The Flayed One]

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[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by The Flayed One
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Thanks for reminding me that there are waaaaaaaaay worse teams than the Saints.

[bwind22]

San Fran's got one that's waaaay worse. They'll be lucky to win 2 or 3 games this year.

[The Flayed One]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Thanks for reminding me that there are waaaaaaaaay worse teams than the Saints.


You bastard!

[BH14]

I can't wait til the Manning vs Manning game!

[bwind22]

33 minutes and counting til real (non-blueball) kickoff....

[ItsAlive75]

Bears vs Pack! Goooooooooo Beeeeeeeeears!

[bwind22]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Bears vs Pack! Goooooooooo Beeeeeeeeears!



GB will be lucky if they can put up any points at all. I think it's safe to assume Chicago's goin' 1-0.

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by bwind22
GB will be lucky if they can put up any points at all. I think it's safe to assume Chicago's goin' 1-0.

ShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpSh utUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShut UpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUp

Somebody knock on wood...

[bwind22]

T-Minus 22 minutes and counting....

[bwind22]

Widescreen tv?

Check.

Surround sound?

Check.

Cold beer?

Check.

Cupboard full of snacks?

Check.



We are clear for takeoff... in t-minus 20 minutes and counting...

[bwind22]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
ShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpSh utUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUpShut UpShutUpShutUpShutUpShutUp

Somebody knock on wood...


You gotta just display an overabundance of unwarranted confidence in your team. That's what I do every year and look where it's gotten my Vikings....

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by bwind22
Widescreen tv?

Check.

Surround sound?

Check.

Cold beer?

Check.

Cupboard full of snacks?

Check.



We are clear for takeoff... in t-minus 20 minutes and counting...

Long night here in Iowa (what with our Hawkeyes pulling out a close victory), so I'm exchanging the cold beer for some Sunny D and the cupboard full of snacks for a medicine cabinet full of Advil. Other than that I'm with ya.

...Oh and I have no surround sound. Us poor folk can't afford the luxury.

[Roderick Usher]

Hail to the REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Monday night the Vikes are goin' down

[bwind22]

Originally posted by Roderick Usher
Hail to the REDSKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Monday night the Vikes are goin' down



Muhahehwhwhhwhahawhha. Good one.

[bwind22]

Marino - Carolina & Pittsburgh
Sharpe - Carolina & Denver
Boomer - Seattle & NE


CBS broadcasters just made their SuperBowl predictions....

Can't believe they all overlooked the Vikings...

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by bwind22
Marino - Carolina & Pittsburgh
Sharpe - Carolina & Denver
Boomer - Seattle & NE


CBS broadcasters just made their SuperBowl predictions....

Can't believe they all overlooked the Vikings...

Sharpe picked Denver? But... but why? Hmmm...

[bwind22]

Probably because of their really strong, well defined RB situation. /sarcasm

[AUSTIN316426808]

Chiefs and Texans

Aren't I the lucky one to get probably the two most boring games going on right now.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bwind22
Probably because of their really strong, well defined RB situation. /sarcasm



Hasn't failed so far, why would it this year?

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Chiefs and Texans

Aren't I the lucky one to get probably the two most boring games going on right now.


I'm an idiot, I've got Sunday ticket, LoL.




Brees looked good, shoulder seems 100%. Deuce picked up 85 tough yards and looks 100% as well. 141 total yards for Reggie, Holston had a solid game. Saints are 1-0. From what I saw this'll be another competitive season and hopefully more.

[The Flayed One]

I loved seeing the Bengals just shred the Chefs. Donks got beat by St. Louis, so far so good. Now if we can just take down San Diego on Monday night, it'll be the perfect start to the season.

[bwind22]

Originally posted by bwind22
GB will be lucky if they can put up any points at all. I think it's safe to assume Chicago's goin' 1-0.


I sure called that one. Wish I was in Vegas this weekend...

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75


Somebody knock on wood...

Looks like somebody blew the fucking wood up.

[Zero]

i have had the worst sports weekend - if my cowboys lose (which is very likely) i will have only one team winning in any game this weekend (the yankees). . . penn state got killed, arsenal drew at home, and the cowboys just lost. . . sometimes you kick, sometimes you get kicked

[AUSTIN316426808]

My weekend's been good. Saints, LSU and Iowa won. At this point I don't give a shit about the Sox and Cubs, hits I've taken are the Packers and Broncos.

[bwind22]

Twins won their series with the TIgers 3-1, Packers got stomped, & I'm looking good in most of my fnatasy leagues...

Vikes play tomorrow nite.

[Roderick Usher]

Cowboys & Giants lost!!!!!!!!

go 'SKINS:D

[ItsAlive75]

Mmm... a thrilling Bears victory.

A very EASY victory, too.

Any Packers fans in here? Huh? Cuz you got SMOOOOOOKED!

[Despare]

Man one league I just got TROUNCED in... hopefully it's just a bad week. Lions should have won, the fact that they kept Seattle out of the endzone didn't console me.

[BH14]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Mmm... a thrilling Bears victory.

A very EASY victory, too.

Any Packers fans in here? Huh? Cuz you got SMOOOOOOKED!

In 2 of my 3 leagues, my opponent had Bears Defense. It killed me but at least Ah. Green (benched) seems to be playing well. Can Favre please retire already?! Let him go to some other team if he wants.

[The Flayed One]

Getting pumped for tonight. Good luck to you bwind. Both of our teams are playing, and our fantasy game is on the line as well.

[hammerfan]

Originally posted by Zero
i have had the worst sports weekend - if my cowboys lose (which is very likely) i will have only one team winning in any game this weekend (the yankees). . . penn state got killed, arsenal drew at home, and the cowboys just lost. . . sometimes you kick, sometimes you get kicked

Hahaha, you got T.O.!!

Just because nobody has mentioned it, I'll say it:

Eagles 24
Texans 10

E-A-G-L-E-S!!!!!

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by hammerfan
Hahaha, you got T.O.!!

Just because nobody has mentioned it, I'll say it:

Eagles 24
Texans 10

E-A-G-L-E-S!!!!!

Hey, way to go. You beat the Texans... such a feat.
:rolleyes: :D

[hammerfan]

Originally posted by ItsAlive75
Hey, way to go. You beat the Texans... such a feat.
:rolleyes: :D


pffftttt!

we need a raspberry smiley!

[ItsAlive75]

Originally posted by hammerfan
pffftttt!

we need a raspberry smiley!

:p

[Roderick Usher]

Originally posted by Zero
i have had the worst sports weekend - if my cowboys lose (which is very likely) i will have only one team winning in any game this weekend (the yankees). . . penn state got killed, arsenal drew at home, and the cowboys just lost. . . sometimes you kick, sometimes you get kicked

looks like we're diametrically opposed
my teams are the Redskins, Fighting Irish, BoSox

but...I am also a huge Arsenal fan, so we won't have to fight about everything

:)

[The Flayed One]

RAIDERS...

RAIDERS...

RAIDERS!!!

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[DraculaInDallas]

Originally posted by Roderick Usher
looks like we're diametrically opposed
my teams are the Redskins, Fighting Irish, BoSox

but...I am also a huge Arsenal fan, so we won't have to fight about everything

:)

1 outta 4 n00b.......your teams blow.
Mine are Da Bears, Yankees, Fighting Irish and when it comes to English Football who else but.........:D
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[bwind22]

Boy my day went great in terms of sports...

I thruoughly enjoed the Vikings looking like a regular football team and remaining competitive an entire game but for them to pull it out in semi-dramatic fashion... Well, geez. What more could I hope for...

Oh yeah, this. I flipped the channel after the Vikes won to watch the Twins fend off a late rally by Oakland to gain another .5 game on Detroit for the division & cushion their lead on the White Sox & the wildcard race by .5 game as well.

THEN, as if that wasn't enough... I get to work and hop online only to find out I won 3 out of 4 online fantasy football leagues this week! (They all came down to Monday night too.)

Everything's comin up bwind. :D

[bwind22]

Originally posted by The Flayed One
RAIDERS...

RAIDERS...

RAIDERS!!!

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Man, that game must have been painful for you. What are you guys gonna do with Brooks? What a bum! And Jordan couldn't get anything going either...

[The Flayed One]

Originally posted by bwind22
Man, that game must have been painful for you. What are you guys gonna do with Brooks? What a bum! And Jordan couldn't get anything going either...

It was, especially since I took a vacation day so I could stay up and endure it. I'm not sure I can say a whole lot bad about Brooks right now. They might as well just sit the offensive line and just make the D count to 3 Mississippi before they can sack him. 9 sacks in one game, that's just miserable. Truthfully, I've been watching the Raiders since I was 5, and aside from the whole 51-3 beating we took against Buffalo in the AFC championship game one year, I don't think I ever recall seeing my team play so bad.

Of course, I'll stand up and take my medicine because I was giving shit to Packers & Bucs fans all day yesterday. It is, however, a miserable time to be a Raiders fan.

[bwind22]

If it's any consolation, I think Green Bay is worse than Oakland this year.

[Roderick Usher]

yo Bwind

As a diehard 'Skins fan, last night was painful as hell, but I gotta say Brad Johnson looked great. He's probably the best damage-control QB in the league.

[The Flayed One]

Originally posted by bwind22
If it's any consolation, I think Green Bay is worse than Oakland this year.

That just means we won't get to draft Brady Quinn:mad: :p

Seriously, I did start to see some good signs on Defence, but our Oline is just awful. I mean, Brooks is a scrambling quarterback and he was still getting killed. They would have made mince meat out of Collins if he was still here.

I didn't want to say anything until I really saw it in action, but Tom Walsh's playcalling looked terrible. Why the hell would you call plays needing 7-10 step drops when your Oline is looking that bad? The few times they threw quick outs to Moss, it worked. Then they just quit and started trying for the long ball again.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by The Flayed One
That just means we won't get to draft Brady Quinn:mad: :p




They wont have the first pick but the Packers wouldn't draft Quinn anyway(Aaron Rogers).

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Roderick Usher
Brad Johnson looked great. He's probably the best damage-control QB in the league.


I don't have the slightest idea why the guy can't keep a job, sure he's getting old but who cares, he's still good that's what matters. He's one of only 5 active QBs with a ring, guess that doesn't count for anything.

[Zero]

i'm just sorry my cowboys lost - they looked so good in the first quarter and then just fell apart. . . i'd say 'bad coaching' but the TUNA is as good as it gets - let's just hope it gets better as the season goes on

[AUSTIN316426808]

It was just two good, tough teams playing well and somebody had to lose. I wouldn't worry about 'em.

[Zero]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
It was just two good, tough teams playing well and somebody had to lose. I wouldn't worry about 'em.

i'd heard JAX was predictec to go pretty far this season. . . that's the thing i hate about football (and really hate about college football) - it seems as if just a few losses and your season is over. . . i guess that's why i'm increasingly a baseball fan

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Zero
i'd heard JAX was predictec to go pretty far this season. . . that's the thing i hate about football (and really hate about college football) - it seems as if just a few losses and your season is over. . . i guess that's why i'm increasingly a baseball fan



I think it makes the NFL better, true it'll blow a bit when your team(s) are left out but overall the competitiveness makes for good games all season.

The playoffless college system on the other hand is brutal for fans because first and foremost, a run of the mill season has about 8-10 national championship contenders which takes out 100 teams before the first kickoff, and another 10 unless a few unlikely scenerios take place.

I guess it would be easier for fans of the other 3 sports, you've got 80+ games during which, at the very least, you've got hope for about a month or two. With football you can pretty much tell within 2 games if you're team's gonna be crap.

[Multikillionare]

Big time Vikings fan here. last night put a smile on my face :)

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by Multikillionare
Big time Vikings fan here. last night put a smile on my face :)


Oh lord, not another one.

[Multikillionare]

lol. alot of vikings fans here im guessing?

[bwind22]

Just one, but I'm very vocal about it.

You make 2.

[Multikillionare]

Right on :cool: