US Politics

[scouse mac]

What the hell is up with it these days?


With the shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, her aide and a federal judge along with other members of the public (including a 9 year old girl), there seems to be a huge amount of anger and vitriole flying about. Almost as if its violence on a political scale.

Whats the score with these uber conservative loonies Ive been hearing about, The Tea Party?

Also, is anyone else getting a serious The Dead Zone vibe about Sarah Palin?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereport...iffords_s.html

[TheWickerFan]

Aren't the teabaggers loads of fun?

With the tea party gaining popularity and the Republicans gaining control of Congress once again, I think it's time to consider moving to Canada.:mad:

[newb]

not a big fan of politics, but that shooter was just a fucking nut-job...he was gonna blow sooner or later.

As far as Sarah Palin....meh....she's already turning into a caricature....don't think she'll have a serious run at office.

but who knows

society is turning into shit

I blame Reality TV

I really have to get back working on my flux capacitor....just hope I can get the mini-van up to 88

[bwind22]

To make themselves look better and win elections, politicians demonize their opposition to the point that every so often, some unstable fucktard takes things too literally, snaps and takes a shot at one of them. Both parties do it. It's not exclusive to Republicans, they're just the ones with the guns. There's plenty of liberal fucktards too.

Aside from pushing people on the edge over the brink, it creates a pretty hostile climate when elected officials are supposed to be working together to make the country better. How can someone sit down and compromise to solve problems with a person they were comparing to Hitler a few weeks earlier during the elections without pissing off the people who bought in to their bullshit and got them elected in the first place?

Our whole political system is completely fucked.

[Sistinas666]

Originally Posted by bwind22

Our whole political system is completely fucked.

Well put.

I gave up on "Rocking The Vote" or giving a fuck years ago. Our whole system is rigged. I'm not exactly sure who but its not the people who choose the politicians anymore. Sometimes I think "big oil" calls the shots and the conspiracy theorist in me thinks it may be something bigger.

[TheWickerFan]

Originally Posted by newb

that shooter was just a fucking nut-job...he was gonna blow sooner or later.

Agreed. As much as I dislike Sarah Palin, I don't think she or the conservatives can be blamed for this incident. The shooter could have just as easily targeted someone else.

[TheWickerFan]

Originally Posted by Sistinas666

I gave up on "Rocking The Vote" or giving a fuck years ago..

That's exactly what "they" want you to do.;)

[novakru]

Honestly scouse-is it really that big of a surprise?
Can anything that happens here be shocking at this point?
We are AMERICANS after all...

[bwind22]

Originally Posted by Sistinas666

Well put.

I gave up on "Rocking The Vote" or giving a fuck years ago. Our whole system is rigged. I'm not exactly sure who but its not the people who choose the politicians anymore. Sometimes I think "big oil" calls the shots and the conspiracy theorist in me thinks it may be something bigger.

The lobbyists have WAY too much influence in Washington, but I suspect Goldman Sachs is actually running the country.

There's no way to fix our fucked system without kicking everyone out of office and starting over from scratch. (Which will never happen.)

There are 3 fundamental problems I see.

1 is career politicians. Politicians are supposed to be people like you or me, sent to Washington for a few years to represent our neighbors' interests. Our founding fathers were farmers, lawyers, doctors, etc... Not politicians. Now we've got people that have been there for 40 years. They are so out of touch with reality that they can't possibly have a clue what's in the best interest of the "real" people. A lot of them have the best intentions the first time they get elected. Then they get to Washington and realize they were being naive to think they could change anything on their own and join the club (for lack of a better term.)

The 2nd fundamental problem is that we're stuck with a 2 party system. While Republicans & Democrats don't agree on much, they certainly agree that it's in their mutual best interest to keep things limited to 2 parties. And then we're screwed. We're constantly given the choice between 2 candidates that both suck for different reasons. I think we should have a choice between 5-10 candidates in every major election. They should all get equal tv time, press coverage and debate time... In short, they should all have a legit shot to win. But they don't, and that's why a vote for Nader or Perot is just considered a wasted vote. (The only way those guys got in there at all was because they put up tons of their own cash to do so. They bought their ways into the elections, but even then couldn't buy themselves a legit chance at winning it.)

The 3rd is the Lobbyists. They give so much money to these people to get them elected that it's only natural to assume the politician will return some favors once they get in office (and they do.) How can you vote for a bill that's gonna regulate the banks or oil industry when they provided 80% of your campaign funds and got you elected in the first place?


Yes, I'm jaded. I fucking hate our corrupt system. It's beyond repair.

[novakru]

Yes, I'm jaded. I fucking hate our corrupt system. It's beyond repair.


Amen brother:cool: