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10-08-2003, 12:38 PM
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On the death of horror as a genre
I just read this killer article in cinifantastic (sp?) where the topic of horror as a genre discussed by a couple famous directors. Go check it out it really made me think.
Personally I'm absolutly fucking sick of seeing this "WB" horror shit these days. Dont get me wrong there have been some good flicks lately, but looking at the genre as a whole, right now is a pretty sad time. This whole, remake, VS., thing is really getting to me. For chists sake Im tired of seeing pop singers on the screen. My favorite movie are movies like the original Haunting, that movie was scary as fuck, and it never even showed the ghosts. When i go to a movie i dont want to see anything even resembling Boyonce Noles or bullet time. And whats with all the cheesed out one liners? It seems to me that this industry has turned into more camp and satire than actual story telling. Just look at jason X, WTF was that? Any thoughts? 
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10-08-2003, 12:56 PM
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Horror will never die! :D
I haven't read the article yet, but I think that whenever a genre becomes popular with mainstream, you're bound to be flooded with formula-driven watered-down stuff. Big movie corporations want to put people in theater seats more than they want to make meaningful/interesting movies. That's their job - to make money. That said, there's still good independent horror happening. Indie directors have way more freedom because they aren't under intense pressure from huge budgets. They can be wild, get crazy, cast talented unknown actors, cuss, be sexy, be bloody, be controversial. In a roundabout way, I think that blockbuster horror movies are actually a good thing because they create more horror fans. Kids will go see, say, "Scream" with their friends. They'll decide they like that kind of movie, then start reading about horror online, in zines, or talking about it with friends. They'll find "Evil Dead", then maybe happen upon Dario Argento or Lucio Fulci, and their world will open up. Fads come and go. I think that even when the big studios have moved on to the next big thing, horror will still be kicking.
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10-08-2003, 01:28 PM
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I haven't read the article either, but by what you posted I'd probably disagree with it. Times change. We have to face it. Major horror films just aren't serious anymore. If anyone has Showtime, I was watching a documentary entitled "Masters of Horror". They interviewed such greats like Tooper, Craven, and Carpenter. Basically they talked about what you're talking about, how horror really isn't horror anymore, and no one takes it serious anymore. Hopefully a new director will come in and bring us back to the "seriousness".
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10-08-2003, 01:33 PM
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I agree with nightbreed. I have not seen good horror movies which made in 90's or late. Directros are controled by big corporation made comercial films without involved. I agree with Amelia who said why big corporations do that - for money of course. Anybody know good film which has made for ten years? I do not know any good new directors! Old in this buisness such as J. Carpenter burned out!! Why?? Maybe money killed them?? Maybe pressure?? - like said Amelia.
Any way. If you want watch good horror you must become interested in directors such as L. Fulci, G.A. Romero and many more who created their "sympony of horror" in 70's or late.
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10-08-2003, 02:00 PM
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another question comes to mind...
and really that question is "What consistutes a horror film?" I mean I've seen a lot of "darker" movies in the last 10 yrs that i loved but I'm not sure if they're horror. Movies like Frailty, Se7en, The Ring, hell even The Sixth Sense (IMO). But I'm not sure if I could call these movies Horror.
I was talking to a fellow zombie dork the other day about the Savini Day Of... remake thats due for 05. And just like me hes really excited, and he asked me how i think it will turn out. And i thought about it and i said that it couldnt be a whole lot like the original b/c the MPAA wont allow that kind of splatter on the big screen. And having said that i realize how much it depresses me. Im a firm believer that Night of the living dead 90 was THE definative remake. And I believe that Savini/ Romero can do it again with Dawn, but I wonder how much they will have to cut....
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10-08-2003, 02:56 PM
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Theoretically, Savini/Romero could just say "Screw the MPAA rating" and make as gory a movie as they want to. But if they did that, it would totally limit where the movie could be shown/seen. It's a tough choice - do you make the movie you want to make and have it basically go direct to DVD, or do you cut the movie to MPAA guidelines so it can get in theaters - even if the cutting hurts the movie?
If I were a director, I don't know what choice I'd make - especially with something like the Day of the Dead remake. That'd be tough. What you could do - what some do - is cut the movie to get it in theaters, then released the unrated director's cut to DVD. That would force fans to pay twice to see the movie, which sucks, but at least people would have a chance to see the movie as the director wanted it seen.
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10-10-2003, 05:04 PM
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There is great horror out there being made today ... I have read a lot of posts here at this site and I repeatly see movies like friday the 13th, Nightmare of Elm street, Halloween, Leprechaun, etc... BUT there is other horror out there besides this stuff. Just becuase something is not a blockbuster it doesnt mean it is not good.. Horror is always been something more of the underground... Yeah there has been a couple of movies that were blockbusters but no more than that..Horror is underground and always will be and whoever wrote this dumb article is stupid and needs to be spit in the face because as long as horror freaks like us live they will always be horror......
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10-11-2003, 12:18 AM
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have you read the article?
i would recommend is since it includes the opinions of Rob Zombie which is as far as im concerned (opinions on his film aside) is the pablo escabar of horror freaks. the man buys every movie he sees for fucks sake. anyways the article wasnt so much on the death of the genre but really more of the problems with it today...
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10-12-2003, 06:05 AM
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Re: have you read the article?
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10-12-2003, 09:37 AM
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My cinema history teacher is fond of saying "90 percent of everything made is crap." That is very true. But that 10 percent of greatness will always live on.
Horror will never die. I don't think any genre of film will "die" but there are others that are in more trouble than horror. Think about Westerns. Not too many westerns are made these days. The last good westerns were in the early 90's (Unforgiven and Tombstone).
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