More Urgeok Musings : Most Men Hate Women

[urgeok2]

Recently I've become aware of something...
It's true that - if you have a shred of intelligence - you have a better understanding of the world as you get older. You see things, stuff starts to sink in and make sense.

i recently realized not long ago that most men don't like women.

they may want them,
desire them,
need them.

but they dont like them. they are a neccessary evil.
they're good for getting a nut off, for cooking, cleaning, laundry..etc

but they would rather spend 99% of their time doing anything but being around a woman - unless it's in the pursuit or act of sex.

Once i realized this through conversation and observation of action and interraction I started to take a look at the reason why.

there are a bunch of reasons .... but i think the weight of it comes from how children are raised traditionally.

the concept of the fair - or weaker sex is still cultivated today.

****** At this point I'll make a disclaimer ... most of these observations focus on mr average joe. mr steak and potatoes. or backward cultures.
I know there are a number of enlightened people out there trying to change the world with a progressive vision - but they are by far the minority. And they're fighting a battle they will never win********

usually - boys are raised to be the rough kids - encouraged to participate in sports, playing with trucks and cars, getting dirty .... girls are handed dolls and they begin the 'nurturing program' Taking care of things ...playing tea party ... shopping games....

Eventually they grow to teens ... where girls are encouraged to hold on to their virginity until they marry their prince charming, and the boys are not discouraged from chasing everything and anything like it's the national sport.


so now most boys - who are incredibly emotionally immature when this process starts - are faced with the very probable experience with rejection ..

yes yes, no no, please please, wait wait ... etc .and so on.

plus - girls are different ... they like to shop, they dont care about sports, or car engines...

but mostly - they wont put out without a fight or a hell of a lot of hard work.
and how many guys once they get it - immediately lose interest .. and the girl gets branded a slut.... easy.

sounds like 1950s pulp fiction - but it exists today.

i see guys casually referring to women as 'bitches' all the time. not out of anger ... just a word to use. Funny how 'bitch' became such a popular word ... it's used to describe men who arent 'hard'
But i hear more guys referring to women as bitches now - I believe as a result of the popular usage of the word - that guys can now express their true feelings without it being noticeable.

I'm always hearing about guys that need to 'get away with the boys'
they enjoy themselves more 'with the boys' they can be themselves.

why is that ? who are the women they chose to be with that wont let them 'be themselves' why did they settle for that woman ??
because she cooks and keeps the house clean ? she's pretty ?
But she's someone who's incapable of being a friend ?

Men rape. every fucking day men rape. men are predators. and it's not a crime of passion .. its a crime of hate and power. Sept. 2008 in our great and advanced civilization and yet every single city in north america has several places a woman just cant go at night because she'd be 'asking for it'
a guarenteed rape victim.

fucking think about this for a second.

Most men don't like women. they are bitches, they are intimidating, they are impossible to understand, they have only one thing a man could want and after he gets it the woman has no value until he wants it again.

oh - and heaven forbid a woman cheats on a man .. because then they are all sluts. every last one of them - good for nothing dirty sluts.

get rejected by a girl .. they're all bitches .. stuck up fucking bitches.

think i'm making this up ? i work in a corporate environment with 1000's of people - i hear these things all the time. I hear them in the sports i play, i hear them all over.

i DONT hear them from friends because i dont associate with people sad and stupid enough to feel this way - but they exist... and they are the majority.

Most women (unless physically or emotionally abused) wont see much of this - because it wouldnt serve the purpose of any man to show this lovely side of himself to someone who could potentially be of use to him, even if for just a brief time.

personally - i love women... I love the idea of women, i love being around them, the way they look, smell, laugh....
other then the aesthetically pleasing aspects - i dont differentiate between men and woman (other than shoe buying jokes)

i differentiate between stupid and decent people. people i can stand to be around and people i cant .... and the numbers are pretty much even.

i wouldnt marry someone i couldnt be myself with.... someone i couldnt hang out with and do the same things with i would one of the guys.
I have no need to get away - we do things as a group.
I dont got to parties where the guys hang in the den drinking and talking sports and trucks and the tits on the admin assistant, and the women hang in the kitched talking about the sales ... and neither does my wife.

thats a bunch of bullshit but it still exists today - and it is the majority.

dont like it ? - raise your kids not to be stereotypical assholes.

rant off.


what i dont know is ... do most women hate men ? ( i suspect not - but i really cant be sure)

[_____V_____]

I would think so.

Except for the fact that most women are faithful towards their men. Any act of unfaithfulness originates only when their man does something which instigates that.

But generally, women do have a bit of hate towards all men. Plus, they hate women more. Plenty of examples in 20s and 30s women - haven't seen this much in older ones though.

[urgeok2]

Originally Posted by _____V_____

I would think so.

Except for the fact that most women are faithful towards their men. Any act of unfaithfulness originates only when their man does something which instigates that.

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woah - i'd have to disgree with that one ..

not these days

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by urgeok2

what i dont know is ... do most women hate men ? ( i suspect not - but i really cant be sure)

For many of them, everythign you wrote preceeding this. Maybe its because I married a woman who knows more about people than anyone i've ever met, but I am not used to being around women who dont have a firm grasp of how men usually are.

I wasnt actually raised to treat women as equals, but that was one area where my parents managed to not screw up too badly. My dad never treated my mom as anything other than a partner. He worked, she was a housewife, but those were their jobs, and nothign i really associated with their "place" because of their gender.

For this reason, i find 50's style parodies hilarious, because they are just ridiculous. I would love to see a man try to treat my wife like a "typical woman". That would be a very rude awakeneing. :)

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by urgeok2

woah - i'd have to disgree with that one ..

not these days

Yep, these days too. A vast majority still stick with their men - be it drunken bastards or useless asswipes who do nothing all day but get stuck to their couches watching TV and drinking beer.

There is a streak of faithfulness in a woman - you have to admire that.

[Angra]

Originally Posted by urgeok2

woah - i'd have to disgree with that one ..

not these days

I have to agree with Urge.

Women are nothing but dirty pigs who only think with their.... erhem.

[urgeok2]

Originally Posted by Vodstok

For many of them, everythign you wrote preceeding this.

huh ?

(i think you left a thought uncomplete here)

[urgeok2]

Originally Posted by _____V_____

Yep, these days too. A vast majority still stick with their men - be it drunken bastards or useless asswipes who do nothing all day but get stuck to their couches watching TV and drinking beer.

There is a streak of faithfulness in a woman - you have to admire that.

i dont admire that at all (in that scenario)

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by urgeok2

huh ?

(i think you left a thought uncomplete here)

aha, i thought you wrote this:
what i dont know is ... why do most women hate men ?

[urgeok2]

Originally Posted by Vodstok

aha, i thought you wrote this:
what i dont know is ... why do most women hate men ?

ohh ok gotcha ... you mean many do - for the very same behaviors i outlined