*Trivia experts needed* Which movies were actually called Zombi over in Italy?

[johnboy3434]

I'm confused over which movies were actually part of the Zombi series. The original Zombi movie, Zombi 2, was a legal (if unofficial) sequel to Dawn of the Dead, which was called Zombi over in Italy. I know that the sequel to that movie was Zombi 3 ("sequel" in the same sense that Halloween III is a sequel to the first two). Beyond that, though, I'm not sure what films (if any) are supposed to be part of the Zombi series. This is where I need the help of a trivia expert. The countries importing the Zombi titles have given the names of Zombi 4, 5, and 6 to various totally unrelated movies, so they can't be trusted. My question: In Italy, specifically, which movies ran under the title of Zombi 4 and so on? I can't seem to get a straight answer off of IMDb's alternate titles.

[alkytrio666]

Dawn of the Dead was Romero's zombie film, as you know, which, in Italy, was called Zombie instead of Dawn of the Dead.

One year later, Lucio Fulci set out to make a zombie film of his own. He so respected Romero's 'Dawn' that he decided to create a kind of unofficial sequel, hence Zombi 2.

After that, a Zombie 3, 4, and 5 were made, all pretty lousy low-budget zombie flicks that were unrelated. Basically, if you were an Italian filmmaker and didn't know what to call your zombie movie, you'd simply tack it on to the legacy.

So if you're asking if Zombie 3, 4, or 5 run under different titles in the USA, they don't.

[johnboy3434]

I'm afraid I didn't make my question very clear. There have been various movies that have been released in the US as installments in the "Zombie" series that were not originally titled that and had nothing to do with Fulci's original or it's first sequel, Zombi 3.

I'm asking what movies were released in Italy under the Zombi title beyond Zombi 3 (if any). IMDb only provides confusion, so I figured there was a Zombi buff somewhere on these boards.

[zwoti]

there's no real connection between zombi 2 & zombi 3 other than fulci.

[johnboy3434]

I know that (that's why I made the Halloween III crack). But an installment in the series is an installment in the series. Anybody have an answer?

[alkytrio666]

Look, you're going to have to make yourself a little more clear, because it sounds to me like you're answering your own question.

[zwoti]

Originally Posted by johnboy3434

I know that (that's why I made the Halloween III crack). But an installment in the series is an installment in the series. Anybody have an answer?

zombi 3 is just a name, nothing to do with zombi 2 bar lucio fulci.


halloween 3 is part of the series because it was produced by the same people that were responsible for 1&2 (it was just a case that jc didn't want to do another michael myers film).

[johnboy3434]

Originally Posted by alkytrio666

Look, you're going to have to make yourself a little more clear, because it sounds to me like you're answering your own question.

Alright, let's take this step by step.

1.) George Romero and John Russo write Night of the Living Dead, which is released in 1968 to fantastic applause.

2.) Romero and Russo each break off to do their own branching Dead series. Romero's first sequel is Dawn of the Dead, which is released in 1978, also to fantastic applause.

3.) Romero employs Italian horror legend Dario Argento to edit Dawn of the Dead for release in Italy and Spain. The result is Zombi, which releases to, you guessed it, fantastic applause.

4.) Another zombie film already in production is completed after the release of Zombi. I don't know how they get past copyright laws in order to do this, but, in order to cash in on Zombi's success, the makers of the film release it as Zombi 2 in 1979. It does very well.

5.) Those absent copyright laws pop up out of nowhere when it comes time to import Zombi 2 to other countries. Because of this, it can't be released under its "proper" English title Dawn of the Dead 2. In the USA, it is released simply as Zombie. In the UK, it is released as Zombie Flesh Eaters. It gains a sizable cult following.

6.) The same company that released Zombi 2 realize they have another hit on their hands, and do what production companies are supposed to do: make repetitive and forgettable sequels. Thus, Zombi 3, with no plot connections to Zombi 2 aside from the name, is released in 1988.

7.) Zombi 3 is released in the US as Zombie 3 (despite the fact that no "Zombie 2" was released stateside) and in the UK as Zombie Flesh Eaters 2 (those sensible Brits got it right).

8.) Okay, this is where the gray area begins. As many as three or as few as zero sequels are made in Italy following Zombi 3. Whether any of these made it to the US under a different title or not, I don't know.

9.) In the USA, some jackass decides to release "sequels" to the Zombie films that, in their original form (as far as I can tell) have absolutely NOTHING to do with Zombi 2 or Zombi 3 (not even the title). Most were made before the latter or even the former and some don't even feature zombies at all. Unfortunately, these people can't even keep their own bull**** straight, releasing two or more different movies under the same title (Zombie 4, 5, or 6).

Alright, my question is this: were any "official" Zombi sequels made and originally released under the title "Zombie 4+" in Italy. Not under some hack dub title in the States, but in Italy, where they should come from. Or was Zombi 3 the last official entry in the series?

[zwoti]

Originally Posted by johnboy3434

3.) Romero employs Italian horror legend Dario Argento to edit Dawn of the Dead for release in Italy and Spain. The result is Zombi, which releases to, you guessed it, fantastic applause.

4.) Another zombie film already in production is completed after the release of Zombi. I don't know how they get past copyright laws in order to do this, but, in order to cash in on Zombi's success, the makers of the film release it as Zombi 2 in 1979. It does very well.

5.) Those absent copyright laws pop up out of nowhere when it comes time to import Zombi 2 to other countries. Because of this, it can't be released under its "proper" English title Dawn of the Dead 2. In the USA, it is released simply as Zombie. In the UK, it is released as Zombie Flesh Eaters. It gains a sizable cult following.

Alright, my question is this: were any "official" Zombi sequels made and originally released under the title "Zombie 4+" in Italy. Not under some hack dub title in the States, but in Italy, where they should come from. Or was Zombi 3 the last official entry in the series?

3) er no

4+5) different countries, different laws

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by johnboy3434

Alright, my question is this: were any "official" Zombi sequels made and originally released under the title "Zombie 4+" in Italy. Not under some hack dub title in the States, but in Italy, where they should come from.

No.

Originally Posted by johnboy3434

Or was Zombi 3 the last official entry in the series?

Yes.