Where do you draw the line?

[Posher778]

I'm posting this here to avoid stupid comments and bullcrap stuff, so-

In so called action films, in fact, maybe even the majority, there is a total lack of actual action. Has anyone else noticed this? What movies are like this that you know of? For example- V for Vendetta: Not action... at all, there's about 2 scenes that even qualify. Kill Bill 2- It's technically action, at least most of what i've heard, but there is virtually none. Really, the only action scene is when beatrix and elle fight in the trailer, but that's mostly it. The assassin hotel scene is kinda action, but it's brief. So, this might be kinda broad, but, where do you draw the line between ACTION films, and DRAMA films?

Give examples.

[Amphibious Wretch]

Originally Posted by omcdave

is this the line for free cheeze ?

Apparently, it's the line for completely inane, off topic posts to a genuinely interesting inquiry.

[Despare]

I don't know, maybe you're not looking at every type of action. V had explosions, fighting, running from the law... I'd say it could be lumped into the action genre if somebody wanted to. The problem is that the big genres themselves are so broad. It seems any movie that contains a couple of large actions scenes to either further the main plot or conclude the story is marked as an action movie.

[Posher778]

Originally Posted by omcdave

is this the line for free cheeze ?

Save it for your own lame threads. If that's all you've got... leave.

[Despare]

OMC... you haven't said one thing that was actually on topic YET. Go back and fuck up the general forum some more if you have nothing to say. Action movies can have plenty of gore, look at Robocop.

[Posher778]

Originally Posted by omcdave

300 had tons of gore but it was an action film .

That's not exactly what i'm on about. Gore doesn't change a film, action/ lack of action is what we're talking about. 300 is action... lame action... but action.

Action- The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Kill Bill v.1, Die hard, The Matrix.

Non action... by my standard- Reservoir Dogs, Collateral, The Punisher

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Posher778

Non action... by my standard- Reservoir Dogs, Collateral, The Punisher

Those films were all PACKED with action. Chases, gunfighting, lighting people on fire, witty verbal battles, people being thrown out of windows...

[Posher778]

Originally Posted by Despare

Those films were all PACKED with action. Chases, gunfighting, lighting people on fire, witty verbal battles, people being thrown out of windows...

Reservoir dogs took place mainly in one room. It had a bit of action, not saying there was none, but it feels way more drama in my book.

Collateral was too boring to be action. Action isn't throwing a person out a window one time to me... Punisher had a few scenes, that is about 50/50 with me. The beach part, and the end part.

[Amphibious Wretch]

Originally Posted by Posher778

Reservoir dogs took place mainly in one room.

True, but the flashbacks to the robbery were action packed.

I'm not sure where I draw the line as far as action goes. Do we consider Way of the Gun action? What about Pulp Fiction or Lucky # Slevin? Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels?

I understand where you're coming from, though. I guess if you wanted to tout a flick as pure action, we might want to look towards something like Pierce Brosnan Bond flicks or early 90's Arnie types, like Eraser.

[Despare]

A movie doesn't need to be packed with non-stop action for it to be an action film. Collateral had a lot of scenes that constituted its status as an action film although that's not to say there wasn't some drama. As for Punisher, it was simply a poorly done action movie.

Whenever action is used as such a huge plot device, that movie can at least linger in the genre if somebody wants to classify it as such. Kill Bill Vol. 2 is simply the second half of a larger film and Kill Bill is an action movie.