Revelations

[Vodstok]

This miniseries has gotten me thinking about a lot of things.

I, for one, am an Athiest. Im the kind that pisses off everyone because i refuse to believe without some proof. If God shows up and shows me something irrefutable (like a license :D), i'll believe.

here are my questions though:

If events began to happen as detailed in the book of Revelations, would atheists become believers? I mean, if you refused to believe in the face of undeniable proof, then you would basically contradict what you originally believed. Granted, it would take a LOT to prove it, but if it reached that point where it was obviuos that someone had their shit together when they wrote it, would you believe?

Okay, i forgot my second question, but i will be back when i think of it.

[Dante'sInferno]

Originally posted by Vodstok
This miniseries has gotten me thinking about a lot of things.

I, for one, am an Athiest. Im the kind that pisses off everyone because i refuse to believe without some proof. If God shows up and shows me something irrefutable (like a license :D), i'll believe.

here are my questions though:

If events began to happen as detailed in the book of Revelations, would atheists become believers? I mean, if you refused to believe in the face of undeniable proof, then you would basically contradict what you originally believed. Granted, it would take a LOT to prove it, but if it reached that point where it was obviuos that someone had their shit together when they wrote it, would you believe?

Okay, i forgot my second question, but i will be back when i think of it.

Yes with enough PROOF anynone could believe if they were athiests

[Vodstok]

Originally posted by hellboy
In my opinion, the belief of God is a frame of mind. For those that worship Him regularly. They are taught that God is great, God is good. But his wrath is more powerful. The state of mind in believing in Him that is left is what people are most content with. They choose the peace of mind that they feel due to the act of prayer.

But I'm just a pissant human when ya look at the whole picture. I believe in anything unexplainable. Loch-Ness, Bigfoot, Aliens, Ghosts, etc... etc. These myths started somewhere. Hard to believe they were just made up.




Oh and Elvis is ALIVE.







:D

Life is so much more intersting with people like you around :D


I always loved the poster Mulder had in his office in the X-Files, the one that said "I want to believe". I really do. Life is so much cooler with Krakens and dragons, alien abduction, hollow earth, the bermudfa triangle....

Without those kind of completely unexplainable, unprovable, but just ever so slightly not-completely-deniable things in life, the earth would be terminally boring.


I honestly think that is why some sci-fi shows fail. if you m,ake the fantastic too commonplace, then it is no fun.

[Vodstok]

Oh, and no Elvis isnt alive. He died shortly after he and JFK killed a mummy.

[X¤MurderDoll¤X]

In my opinion: I don't know whether or not god exists. Science makes a lot of sense, but scientists have no problem pulling "logical" theories out of their asses when they can't explain something.

However, if god existed, he would not want us to know. Irrefutable proof of god would devalue life on earth. There a story in the bible about people trying to build a tower to see god, and god made them unable to understand each other by making them speak in different languages. (I forget the details, may or may not have been a tower...)

I can't make sense of it, and don't waste time trying to. I think it's impossible to know.

I believe if the prophecies came true, a lot of athiests would find something else to rebel against. I'd imagine the few hardcore athiests, would cast them aside as coincidence.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
However, if god existed, he would not want us to know. Irrefutable proof of god would devalue life on earth. There a story in the bible about people trying to build a tower to see god, and god made them unable to understand each other by making them speak in different languages. (I forget the details, may or may not have been a tower...)

tower of bable


(thus the bablefish from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)


and probably the expression : to babble ..

[barbra]

there is always the age old excuse... coincidence, if you lack faith I doubt it can be scared into you, who wants to get faith through fear?
personally, I was raised a certain way and I beleave a certain way

[Preacher]

As a preacher I should be advising y'all on this one.

But......well.......I cant be arsed.

I'm goin home to watch fighting on tv.

Latas

[barbra]

Originally posted by Preacher
As a preacher I should be advising y'all on this one.

But......well.......I cant be arsed.

I'm goin home to watch fighting on tv.

Latas

yeah, well Im a reverend

http://www.universalministries.com/

[mandolin_ava]

I'm an atheist.

I speak Nietzsche and Tool ideals. Most of what I say on religion's regurgitated from them, but I think that common sense will show you that god is imaginary. I'm tired of arguing with people. If you want an atheist stand point, read Nietzsche's philosophies and Tool's lyrics.

"Jesus won't you fucking whistle something but the past and done?" - Tool, Sober.

And, if god did exist, I would not worship him.

Religion's a way of trying to prove that human life is worth something. Human life is worthless. Get over it.