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i need your help!
Hello all, I am just new to this site!
I need your help!! Im trying to do my dissertation at the mo, on The female Identity in past and present horror/ slasher films, and i need ur views on the subject. As much feedback as possible would be much appreciated!! Do any of you have any views on the subject ie, the female as the victim, the man as the monster, the final girl, the different characters or just an opinion on the genre as a whole??? ya know how, ts always the girls having sex with their boyfriends that are quickly killed off, while the virgin (or final girl as you put it) is the one who overpowers the bad and defeats him. Does anyone agree/ diagree with: the victim-heroine is female who "acquits herself 'like a man'," therefore by the end of the slasher horror film, the typical "feminine" characteristics become "masculinized" through the action of the film. I need to build up info, possible interviews and others opinions Please help would be so so appreciated!! :) I need your help!! 
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11-04-2004, 06:33 AM
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Re: i need your help!
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11-04-2004, 06:38 AM
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i dont know about masculinized ...
I think she just hits the 'i'm not going to take it anymore' point .. Its more akin to the phenomenon of the mother that lifts the car to get it off of her child ... Anger, strength and fighting back isnt for men only ... It is funny how the bad girls get killed off and the virgin (usually) survives .. Was it like that in the beginning ... as a justification for killing them off - or was it to make a greater more interesting contrast when the mousy (read : J.L Curtis) girl becomes a pillar of strength ? (and since then the pattern/rules were established and other filmmkers followed suit ?) When i think of horror movies - esp the slasher films .. the good girl is also the last one the killer comes for so she's a bit more prepared. The bad girls are always being caught unawares .. during or just after the act. I personally think thats just a very concious effort to link sex and violence .. i dont think the filmmaker is trying to give us a moral lesson. Quite often too the heroine is aided by luck ... and help ... and othe plot devices made solely to build tension. Other than that .. she usually has a few more minutes to try to defend herself because unlike the other girls, she knew what was coming. any of that make any sense ?
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11-04-2004, 10:40 AM
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very interesting topic.
seems like ur focusing on female victims, how about female agressors? i know theres not too many, i guess the chick in species would kinda count, Misery too. the thing i noticed in species (i think, II) was that in the end, where she finally hooked up with the male alien, she kills him ya know? i dont recall why but i remembering thinking 'thats cuz us bitches got to stick together' as for misery, she was just fucked in the head. but i think thats more along the lines of shes just a psychological bitch, and could really go either way male or female. how abou carrie? starts off as a nice girl, doesnt fit in, crazy mother and ends up goin ballistic... kinda like Columbine type stuff hm? also the girl in exorcist.. samara..
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11-04-2004, 10:47 AM
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WOW! An interesting topic! Good job noob!
Ummmm, too bad I don't have anything interesting to say in response (that hasn't been said already). However, I will say that it does seem to me that in horror movies the "bad" chicks certainly seem to almost never last, and it's as if the film tries to make up for that by making the main woman character the survivor/hero. Which would offset any previous weaknesses shown by a woman character. Now, a whole other argument would be, why MEN are never (or hardly ever the survivor) and particularly black men/women.
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11-04-2004, 10:51 AM
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Also -- I'm sorry -- did you say "heroine" in there somewhere? :D
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*******Spoiler Alert************ Watch House on Haunted Hill Remake RIGHT NOW *******End Spoiler Alert********* Now. back on topic. Im amazed that noone has mentioned Pamela Voorheses! She was one baaad mother Women can also be heroic without being masculine. Silence of the Lambs, Resident Evil make good examples. Clarice in Silence, Alice in RE. Also in RE, Rai is a good example of your masculine point...
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