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Old 11-03-2003, 12:57 PM
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Horror Just Isn't Scary Anymore

Just to get the rabid dogs after me, I pose the argument that horror movies just are not scary any more, nor have they been for a long time.

It's different from person to person, this I'm not denying. But is there any universal "that movie scared the shit out of me" flick out there? I'm so sick of people bringing up the horrible "Scream" series, or any other "I'm a pissed off teen turned slasher" movies. Teens aren't scary. Humans are rarely scary. I guess what I'm looking for is another unstoppable evil force...not someone that can be taken out with a pocket knife to the eye.

Freddy scared the hell out of me as a kid, and even to this day, his story seems frightening. Here's a demonic creature who, in his past life, murdered children. Now, he has the power to kill you in his dreams, and despite numerous attempts, he just keeps coming back. To top it all off, he loves what he does.

The only problem with Freddy in the later years is his knack for comic relief. I really respect New Nightmare due to it's lack of this. But alas, in Freddy vs. Jason, he was back at his joking and "one of the guys ways". To put it simply, the man that use to make millions of kids wet themselves at the thought of dozing off is now the guy that I could have a beer with.

Is this what happens as we get older? The things that use to scare us no longer do. So I guess I'm really just begging for a good horror flick that appeals to me now. Something that will make me not sleep again. I should never go to a horror flick and hear laughter at what is probably the movies most dramatic scene.

Horror flicks are just not what they use to be.
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Old 11-03-2003, 01:12 PM
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Who cares if there not scary I find 90% of old horror movies not scary but I still love em. Most of the new horror now a days is pretty scary though, the ring, signs, Tcm. Frankly I don't care if a horror movie is scary or not I just want to enjoy them:)
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Old 11-03-2003, 01:23 PM
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Re: Horror Just Isn't Scary Anymore

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To put it simply, the man that use to make millions of kids wet themselves at the thought of dozing off is now the guy that I could have a beer with.
Funny association!

I do think you're right that human villains aren't exactly desirable in horror movies, but I also believe in certain cases humans can be acceptable because you can associate with their problems and their pain and their whatever... I say this while thinking of Hannibal and Leatherface primarily, and not of teens ("Scream" did blow balls)... I fell in love with Hannibal the first time I saw him and felt he deserved more screentime in the prequel (it could be argued that he got enough in the sequel ["Hannibal"] but I still can't get enough of him) and to feel Leatherface's pain like I did moved me in a way when I was watching the remake of TCM...

But in regards to monsters, supernatural foes, etc. I think they appeal to our more subconscious fears (as opposed to human villains who we consciously consider if they could or could not exist somewhere near us and whether we should lock our doors more securely at night). Monsters break down that wall of reality in a way that makes us totally feel out of control (only really shitty monsters break down the reality barrier too much, making them unbelievable and not worth watching).

Fear is a delightful emotion...

I can't say which makes for a better villain, because they both have their equal sides and such... I could make a chart or something... but that would probably be a waste of time.. i did make a thread for this...

http://horror.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=591

About 2 weeks old, but still relevant I think...

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Old 11-03-2003, 01:31 PM
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I think part of what makes us so fond of Horror is that some of these characters we want to be like. We wish we had the power of Jason to take out the bullies at school, or the cleverness of Freddy to outwit our co-workers. They appeal to the dark side.

I guess I like it because it's comparable to ancient storytelling tradition. Othello's villain Iago was also presented as purely evil but emerged to be more complex than that. In fact villainous characters often prove to be the most interesting.

As for not being scary.....well, you're not watching the right movies. ;)
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Old 11-03-2003, 02:24 PM
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its not the fact of "wetting myself" its just the fact i like watchin movies where u dont knnow whats gonna happen or who the killer iz or how they r going to kill the killer but i do knonw this im 19 yrs old and if i watch a scary movie that i havent seen b 4 and i knows its not a low budget movie and i watch all lights off no1 home i will get freaked out
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Old 11-03-2003, 02:45 PM
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i guess you got alot of good points there, new horror movies are not scary, its been a long time since iv seen one, the ring was good though, it apealed to your psyche and made your mind kill you off.
why arnt they scary anymore? because we rely to much on showing of the demon\killer or whatever it is with cg fx insted of sugesting things thrugh a good story line?
maby were alla hardened against horror from all the nerve wrecking things weve seen in horror movies? some people shit theyr pants watching teenslashers but personaly i dont realy find it scary, blair witch on the other hand just messed with my mind, it always made me wonder what was out there, one of the few movies i lable as scary. so are there any upcoming movies with potential any one knows about? when it comes to scary horror movies that is...
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Old 11-03-2003, 08:41 PM
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I must agree with everyone to some point. However,just opinion, I kinda like the idea where "humans" are the evil I feel it's more "believeable" I know humans can be evil, I think there are supernatural things out there.. But humans feel more nerve racking with twists of homicidial rages and physciatric issues. Dont get me wrong I like a good immortal evil being every now and then just like the next person...But human nature seems to scare me a little more...I know it is a possiblity in reality.
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Old 11-03-2003, 09:26 PM
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as they say "freddy scared the piss out of me when I was a kid" I believe that part of the reason was that they were kids. Today as we watch horror we know that it is not true or not gonna happen to us when we fall asleep etc... we have become desensitized to the horror aspect because we know that we are safe in our homes or in our rooms watching this stuff on TV. I remember when I was young that TCM 2 just came out. I lived in a part of Indianapolis where there were a lot of motorcycles and everytime I heard one start I panicked thinking that they were chainsaws. Now as an adult I know that the dead dont come alive ( ROTLD where it says that it is based on actuall events) and that freddy is not gonna kill me in my sleep. That is why that I dont find them scary anymore. I get "shocks" from time to time but that is only fleeting. True horror and scaryness live in my childhood from my vulnerability and left when I started growing up. A sad sude effect of the aging process to be sure but one that cant be avoided, but I still love horror all the same
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Old 11-04-2003, 06:28 AM
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For me, watching horror-movies is best in the dark, with my head-set at full volume. And you have to be nude of course.....(hehe, just kidding)
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Old 11-04-2003, 10:50 AM
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I agree that over the last few years horror films have gotten less scary, thanks to CGI and movies like I know how you screamed last summer at your Final Destination bullshit. I still love horror films but I think that the violence man can put on each other is going to be the next wave of horror flicks. More realistic killers are what we need to be really scared, ever see Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer? The guy could be your nexr door neighbor.
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