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Old 01-25-2004, 06:29 PM
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hehe Sounds like it was an enjoyable expieriance. :D

Still is...:)
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Old 01-25-2004, 09:31 PM
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There's a book that deals with this topic that's somewhat of a classic in horror film theory; it's called Men, Women, and Chain Saws, by the feminist Carol Clover. She's also a talking head in a lot of horror documentaries, especially that great one called American Nightmares IFC did two Halloweens back.

She's the one who coined the term "Final Girl" to describe the last girl in every slasher movie, and now it's used in every serious book about horror. Definitely worth checking out.
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Old 01-25-2004, 09:40 PM
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I'm reluctant to read anything by a feminist, lest I be told I'm evil for having a penis
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Old 01-25-2004, 10:06 PM
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I'm reluctant to read anything by a feminist, lest I be told I'm evil for having a penis
I understand, Sam. Which is the same reason why I am reluctant to watch shows like The Supranos, or movies like Raging Bull, where women are treated like garbage cans and slapped and called whore or bitch every five minutes. I don't like movies which suggest that women are evil because they want to get through one day without being discriminated against.
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Old 01-25-2004, 10:07 PM
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have you even seen either of those things? I shouldn't even have to bother with the Sopranos, and Raging Bull was a character study, not a glorification. Get a sense of context for the love of God
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Old 01-25-2004, 10:55 PM
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have you even seen either of those things? I shouldn't even have to bother with the Sopranos, and Raging Bull was a character study, not a glorification. Get a sense of context for the love of God
Oh, I guess I'm not entitled to my opinion. As you so often say "lighten up." :cool:
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You're entitled to your opinion on things you've seen, but you haven't answered the question.
Have you even seen either of those? The actions aren't glorified.
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As you so often say "lighten up."
Difference is, 99% of the time I am lightened up.
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Old 01-26-2004, 11:32 AM
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I think horror needs more women writers and directors; Anne Rice has moved further and further into fantasy, and Poppy Z. has never had any of her works translated into film.

I LOVE exploitaion, don't get me wrong, but for too long horror has had a "boys only" attititude---most of the titilation has dealt with women in peril, or worse (branded, whipped, etc). I think it's wrong to blow this up and say all horror movies humiliate and degrade women, but I think it does reflect the twelve-year-old boy mentality of the genre as a whole.
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Old 01-26-2004, 11:42 AM
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blah blah blah...



there are two types of women in the slasher. theres the slut with the big boobs and cut off jean shorts that does the majority of the screaming (in bed and while being chased by the killer); and then there is the intelligent, strong-willed survivor that ends up either escaping the killer or kicking his ass and then escaping him.
I feel its a good representation of how women are in society too. There are the ones that dont bring any respect to themselves and endure degradation for attention and survival. Then there are the ones that endure all opposition and prevail in situations the may be difficult using their intelligence and other capabilities. And who knows, she might have big boobs too. Who says that the intelligent survivor cant be attractive?

I actually respect women far more than I respect men just because most of them that I have encountered have used their brains more than men ever will. Unfortunately there are also those "bimbos" out there that give other women bad names.

Im tired as hell right now, does any of this make sense?
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