More Urgeok Musings : Most Men Hate Women

[crabapple]

god damn, urge! what is wrong with you? I mean seriously: seriously, think about it, I ask you the question: what the fuck is wrong with you?? writing a thread like this. please be serious. i don't know what yuouare talking about. give it a break man just give it a break okay jeez :confused: :eek: :rolleyes: ;)

[Elvis_Christ]

Originally Posted by The Cramps

All Women Are Bad

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[urgeok2]

"I may be bad... but I feel good"

....Ash's Dark Princess (Army of Darkness)

[Papillon Noir]

I have to say that this thread is utter CRAP! Most men hate women?! Do you live in a bubble, Urge? It's utterly idiotic and superficial. How can you think that one gender not only dislikes the other gender (and I'm assuming you only mean heterosexuals here), but also only wants to be around them for sex? I can't believe that in this day and age that you don't think men and women do like to be around each other. Maybe I just grew up in a forward thinking town with open minded-people, but I don't really believe that's the case here.

And where is all this hate coming from? I can understand not liking someone based on their personality or views on life, but because of their gender? It's like not liking someone because they are a different race, sexual orientation, etc. I think it's wrong to group people like that and utterly not true in this day and age.

[Abominus]

I can't speak for anyone else. I don't hate my woman and given the option of doing things with or without her I would choose with. We get along as friends as well as partners.

The people who start phrases with "All men are..." or "Every woman is" are small minded idiots.

Wait, what was the topic?

[Doc Faustus]

Originally Posted by Papillon Noir

I have to say that this thread is utter CRAP! Most men hate women?! Do you live in a bubble, Urge? It's utterly idiotic and superficial. How can you think that one gender not only dislikes the other gender (and I'm assuming you only mean heterosexuals here), but also only wants to be around them for sex? I can't believe that in this day and age that you don't think men and women do like to be around each other. Maybe I just grew up in a forward thinking town with open minded-people, but I don't really believe that's the case here.

And where is all this hate coming from? I can understand not liking someone based on their personality or views on life, but because of their gender? It's like not liking someone because they are a different race, sexual orientation, etc. I think it's wrong to group people like that and utterly not true in this day and age.

If you consider the rate of abuse, divorce and teen pregnancy, misogyny is pretty rampant. He is talking about the average man here, and the average man hasn't made much headway into male/female relations. How many guys spend more nonsexual time with their girlfriends and wives then they do working or hanging out with their friends? Not that many. How many men care about sharing interests and viewpoints with a woman before opting to date them? How many guys do you know who date women who they would not be friends with? I think the answer is, in fact, most. Liberalism and conservatism aside, the fact is, that the majority of men do not LIKE women as people. Beyond that, there is a group within that demographic that actively dislikes women as people, and within that demographic, one that hates.

[urgeok2]

Originally Posted by Papillon Noir

I have to say that this thread is utter CRAP! Most men hate women?! Do you live in a bubble, Urge? It's utterly idiotic and superficial. How can you think that one gender not only dislikes the other gender (and I'm assuming you only mean heterosexuals here), but also only wants to be around them for sex? I can't believe that in this day and age that you don't think men and women do like to be around each other. Maybe I just grew up in a forward thinking town with open minded-people, but I don't really believe that's the case here.

And where is all this hate coming from? I can understand not liking someone based on their personality or views on life, but because of their gender? It's like not liking someone because they are a different race, sexual orientation, etc. I think it's wrong to group people like that and utterly not true in this day and age.

1) did you read the post ?

2) how old are you ?

i made a statemement based on 47 years of observation..
do you think i'm championing this ?

it isnt something i like - its something that bothers me ...


i'm assuming you are in your teens or early 20's - in which case you'd be thinking the same thing i was when i was your age - a lot of the things i've observed weren't noticeable to me until not long ago.

if i live in a bubble - it's a pretty big one ...


it's nice that you have a positive outlook ... I am personally doing my best - raising my child to be atypical of this bullshit but i have to say that if you arent able to see what i'm talking about - you're the one in a bubble - albiet a bubble of youth and the limited experience as a result. thats not an insult - its just a reality.


where is the hate coming from ? did you read the post ? i think i explained what i thought were some valid possibilities.

also - as i said above - men dont show this side to women (well except for abused women - but we know that hardly ever happens in this day and age - right ?) because it doesnt serve their purposes now does it.


but many men speak more freely around other men and trust me - the respect isnt there for most of them. far from it.

before i made the post - it's been something i've been discussing with my friends - and believe me - they get it - as do several of the (i'm assuming older) people who responded to the thread before you did.

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by Doc Faustus

If you consider the rate of abuse, divorce and teen pregnancy, misogyny is pretty rampant. He is talking about the average man here, and the average man hasn't made much headway into male/female relations. How many guys spend more nonsexual time with their girlfriends and wives then they do working or hanging out with their friends? Not that many. How many men care about sharing interests and viewpoints with a woman before opting to date them? How many guys do you know who date women who they would not be friends with? I think the answer is, in fact, most. Liberalism and conservatism aside, the fact is, that the majority of men do not LIKE women as people. Beyond that, there is a group within that demographic that actively dislikes women as people, and within that demographic, one that hates.

My wife is part of a group of women that exists so that their kids can play together, kind of a pre-school socialization group.

To pretty much every woman in the group, I am some sort of miraculous anomaly; a man who cook , cleans, helps take care of the kid(s), doesnt mind taking the kid(s) by myself, doesnt mind (and actively encourages) my wife to go out for drinks, movie, just to hang out, whatever. I even "filled in" for Bree a couple of times so that Lily could go to someone's birthday party. Thier husbands wouldnt think of it. Ever.

Bree thinks its ridiculous that it is such a big deal; I could just as easily sleep outside. :)

[newb]

WoW........I'm awol for 1 day and miss a doozy of a thread.

I get where urge is coming from....run into these kind of people ALL the time. But like urge,,,I don't choose to associate with them....but they are there....in abundance.

My feeling on woman are much different. My wife is pretty much the glue that holds the family together...I would be lost without her.We've been married for over 25 years and I have NEVER cheated. Sure I go "out with the guys" once in a while....and she goes "out with the girls" but for the most part its the two of us....together......two peas in a pod....wait...I feel a song coming on



I see the crystal raindrops fall
And the beauty of it all
when the sun comes shining through
To make those rainbows in my mind
When I think of you some time
And I want to spend some time with you

CHORUS:Just the two of us
We can make it if we try
Just the two of us
Just the two of us
Building castles in the sky
Just the two of us
You and I
We look for love, no time for tears
Wasted waters's all that is
And it don't make no flowers grow
Good things might come to those who wait
Not to those who wait to late
We got to go for all we know

[Vodstok]

Originally Posted by newb

I see the crystal raindrops fall
And the beauty of it all
when the sun comes shining through
To make those rainbows in my mind
When I think of you some time
And I want to spend some time with you

CHORUS:Just the two of us
We can make it if we try
Just the two of us
Just the two of us
Building castles in the sky
Just the two of us
You and I
We look for love, no time for tears
Wasted waters's all that is
And it don't make no flowers grow
Good things might come to those who wait
Not to those who wait to late
We got to go for all we know

*Lights bic, holds it up*

I'm the same way. Without Bree, I would just be a dirty, smelly guy in a dirty house. Not that she does all of the cleaning, but I wouldnt if her shoe wasnt planted firmly in my lazy ass :)