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Old 01-02-2017, 05:33 AM
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:39 AM
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A Nightmare Before Christmas
It's a Wonderful Life
Dr. Seuss's How the Grinch Stole Christmas
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Current standings...

4 - A Nightmare Before Christmas
0 - The Santa Clause

4 - It's a Wonderful Life
0 - A Charlie Brown Christmas

2 - Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (1966)
2 - Scrooged

Keep the votes coming!
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:17 PM
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Round 3 (running total):

4 - A Nightmare Before Christmas
0 - The Santa Clause

4 - It's a Wonderful Life
0 - A Charlie Brown Christmas

2 - Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (1966)
2 - Scrooged


I watched A Nightmare Before Christmas last night, and was a bit surprised with what I concluded was the ultimate message of the very creative film: 'don't try something new', or maybe 'don't tinker with Christmas'. Anyway, I would have voted for The Santa Clause. I also would have voted for It's a Wonderful Life.

Looks like I'll have to break the Grinch-Scrooged tie... and it's not the one I would want to break. Scrooged is a fine film, funny and creative, and at the end Murray brang tears to my eyes. I just finished watching Grinch again, perhaps only the second time. Actually, it's more or less an allegory of the book of "Job" in the Bible, with a slice of Dr Suess's traditional anti-consumerism and a dash of redemption. A simple creative, bright warm colorful tale. Today I have to tip the cup of Grinch.

On to the Final...
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:18 PM
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Three Way FINAL!!!



It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
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Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas! (1966)
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A Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)


Each over 20 years apart...

Feel free to make a case for and against any film!

You can change your vote at anytime too!
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Old 01-06-2017, 03:46 AM
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Dr. Seuss's How the Grinch Stole Christmas

My reasoning is simple: it was my favorite Christmas show as a child. And, as I became more interested in horror, I loved that Boris Karloff was the narrator.
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Old 01-07-2017, 05:29 PM
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It'a A Wonderful Life. I watch it every year on Christmas Eve as its a tradition in my family
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I'll vote for "It's a Wonderful Life".

It's fairly hardcore. I mean it takes on multiple serious issues (social justice, suicide, self-sacrifice), with some very intense scenes. But it still also funny and lighthearted too; with an effective romance as well.

I'm not really sure why it's become a film traditionally played during the Holidays, but it certainly has. It has some well timed Christmas tie-ins, not to mention the over-all feel.

Grinch would be my next choice. Simple and artistic. Basically a reworking of the Bible story Job. Grinch takes all their Christmas stuff (and more), but they still celebrate Christmas without the stuff. The sight of it brings on redemption for the Grinch.

I'm really fond of lots of The Nightmare Before Christmas. I think the "What is This?" song and sequence is particularly fine. But the over all message (and every film has one) seems to be don't try something new, or don't mess with Christmas tradition, or you can't change. Which seems a bit bleak for a December holiday film.
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Old 01-10-2017, 02:32 PM
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Three Way FINAL!!!

current standings:

2 -- It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
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0 -- A Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)

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Old 01-10-2017, 05:23 PM
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Looks like I'll need to break them down in order to decide cause I just love all three picks too much...

Nightmare Before Christmas
I adore this film as a movie both for children and adults, that is a holiday classic while also being a bit dark with a fun story. Characters and music were so memorable that it's just as popular today as it was the day it came out, if not more so (I was a bit young to remember how hyped it was, but I know you can still get merch for it at any Hot Topic). But as a Christmas film, as much as I love it, I don't think I would give it my vote for best. Simply because, every year I don't know if I should even watch it for Halloween or Christmas. It focuses very much on both holidays, and on a story of its own where Jack is just trying to find himself. There wasn't really a Christmas-y message, and aside from the one song in Christmas town, I never really got a festive vibe from it. So... love the movie, but not my pick for best Christmas flick.

That was the easy one... Grinch vs Wonderful Life is a tough choice...

How the Grinch Stole Christmas!
I grew up with the Grinch. My parents grew up with the Grinch. I loved the animation as a child, and as an adult appreciate it for Boris's beautiful narration. The song is memorable and still played on the radio every year, and who doesn't know about the Grinch as a memorable character? The story a classic tale of turning a heart of stone to gold (or in this case, growing it), and a message rarely told, especially in today's world. Material possessions are just that, possessions. They're meaningless without the true meaning of Christmas behind them. A beautiful message that still warms my heart every time I watch it.

It's a Wonderful Life
I was in my teens when I had watched Wonderful Life for the first time. This movie really changed my life... Not only did it give me my first true appreciation for classic black and white film, but it had the best Godamn message I've ever seen. Similar to the butterfly effect, but in a more positive light. Everything you do, no matter how small, effects the people around you. No matter how small a good deed, it will be noticed and rewarded. Every life matters, especially your own, and is never wasted. I wasn't in a good place as a teen (most teens aren't), and I'm honestly still not (currently at an age where I'm still trying to find my place in this fucked up world), so whenever I watch this movie, it gives my perspective on my life a new view. Without feeling conceded I'm able to look back on the things I've done that might have benefited someone else, and I can feel a sense of pride. A relief that, hey maybe my life isn't total garbage after all.


If I were to answer the question for best Christmas film, I'd honestly have to say 'How the Grinch Stole Christmas'. It was the one movie of the three with the best Christmas message and theme. Wonderful Life may be a beautiful classic, but it didn't focus on Christmas a whole lot. It could have taken place any time of year and still have had the same impact really. I'll give it the point for best film of the three listed however because fuck, man... you just can't beat that message.


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Took me a while, but I think I came up with a satisfying enough answer. Sorry you have to dig for it though, Sculpt.
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