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Old 05-12-2005, 10:38 AM
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Nietzsche, like everyone else knows nothing of anything beyond life. Focusing on life known to us before anything beyond is a good idea, but I still think the "God is dead" mentality is nothing more than rebellion against the church. Most athiests I know are complete fucking tools.

I'm not a big fan of Nihilist views, because even if what they say is 100% right, it would be better for society to believe otherwise. Hitler was a fan of Nietzsche's writings as some passages seemed to justify Hitler's cause.

Human life is worthless on what scale?
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:44 AM
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Hitler was a fan of Nietzsche?!?

Dude, I LOVE WWII.

...Yeah, human life is worthless. Do you think you help anything by having a kid? Life is unnecessary. That's why there are religions in the first place, so that you feel as if what you do makes a difference. It doesn't.

I think that, without religion, the world would be a better place. And I believe that science could disprove a lot of things if they wanted to. I believe that we are made to be docile. It's all the government, I swear to god.

I listed Nietzsche because I do not want to argue. God isn't dead, by any means. He exists for some people, and not for others. For me, it's imaginary.
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Hitler was a fan of Nietzsche?!?

Dude, I LOVE WWII.

...Yeah, human life is worthless. Do you think you help anything by having a kid? Life is unnecessary. That's why there are religions in the first place, so that you feel as if what you do makes a difference. It doesn't.


Hey, we've managed to put a nice hole in the o-zone. :cool:

Seriously, we don't know any of this. How people can talk like they do on either side is totally beyond me. On religious emphasis on importance of life, I think people have the understandable need to hold on to a hope that this is not the end.

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I think that, without religion, the world would be a better place. And I believe that science could disprove a lot of things if they wanted to. I believe that we are made to be docile. It's all the government, I swear to god.
Without extremists the world would be a better place. We fucked up religion, but I guess you are half right. I think you have too much faith in our scientists though, how long have they been trying to cure aids? How much money has gone into research? What do we have to show for it? notta.

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I listed Nietzsche because I do not want to argue. God isn't dead, by any means. He exists for some people, and not for others. For me, it's imaginary.
God either exists or he/she/it doesn't.
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Old 05-12-2005, 11:02 AM
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Seriously, we don't know any of this. How people can talk like they do on either side is totally beyond me. On religious emphasis on importance of life, I think people have the understandable need to hold on to a hope that this is not the end.



Without extremists the world would be a better place. We fucked up religion, but I guess you are half right. I think you have too much faith in our scientists though, how long have they been trying to cure aids? How much money has gone into research? What do we have to show for it? notta.



God either exists or he/she/it doesn't.
Of course we don't know any of this. That's why we argue.

Without religion altogether, the world would be a better place. You can't blame your life on an imaginary person, turning your wrongs into theirs as well, you see what I mean? If a woman drowns her kids, who didn't stop it? God. Think of the woman's viewpoint. We're all innocent. We all have our excuses. Maybe the devil had momentary possession of her, but it's never exactly her fault.

...and natural disasters are good for the world. I do think they have a cure. They're waiting for our numbers to thin out a bit. If all the aids-suffering poverty-ridden countries of the world die out, the US doesn't have to waste money on helping them out.

God doesn't exist. Ask someone else you get a different answer. It's believe and it's faith. There isn't anything as simple as it either does or it doesn't.
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yeah,.. world war two rocked.. :rolleyes:

I totally agree about the not breeding thing but faith comes on an individual basis. What dies is born again and what is born will die, that was the meaning and metiphor behind jesus. God is an ideal, but we are not alone.
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If all the aids-suffering poverty-ridden countries of the world die out, the US doesn't have to waste money on helping them out.
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Of course we don't know any of this. That's why we argue.

Without religion altogether, the world would be a better place. You can't blame your life on an imaginary person, turning your wrongs into theirs as well, you see what I mean? If a woman drowns her kids, who didn't stop it? God. Think of the woman's viewpoint. We're all innocent. We all have our excuses. Maybe the devil had momentary possession of her, but it's never exactly her fault.

...and natural disasters are good for the world. I do think they have a cure. They're waiting for our numbers to thin out a bit. If all the aids-suffering poverty-ridden countries of the world die out, the US doesn't have to waste money on helping them out.

God doesn't exist. Ask someone else you get a different answer. It's believe and it's faith. There isn't anything as simple as it either does or it doesn't.
thats silly. There is no cure, biological warfare is more profitable than cures. And the woman is resposable, its called free will and we all have it. and yes Natural disasters rock.
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I was raised christian.

The thing that put a major crack in my faith is that ANYONE goes to hell.

What is that? Is that some sort of revenge for the believers against the nonbelievers? What about children? Would god create a child, this all-knowing and powerful being, knowing it will go to hell one day?

Eh. God makes me sick.
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Think about it.

If you have a cure, you can't charge them for it. They're poor. You basically have an obligation to distribute it, the world already hates us. Save it for awhile. Educate our people, and maybe only the stupid of us will die out.

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I was raised christian.

The thing that put a major crack in my faith is that ANYONE goes to hell.

What is that? Is that some sort of revenge for the believers against the nonbelievers? What about children? Would god create a child, this all-knowing and powerful being, knowing it will go to hell one day?

Eh. God makes me sick.
god never said you were going to hell, the people that raised you did. Maybe you should hate them, they did breed you after all...
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