Aliens sequel from the director of District 9?!

[ImmortalSlasher]

Nah they need to leave Ripley alone. Her story was finished in a good way with Aliens. This feels like a Superman Returns type redo. And that ship in theory should be destroyed. If not that even alters the original Aliens story.

[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by ImmortalSlasher

Nah they need to leave Ripley alone. Her story was finished in a good way with Aliens. This feels like a Superman Returns type redo. And that ship in theory should be destroyed. If not that even alters the original Aliens story.

Huh? Where in the Alien movies did they destroy the horseshoe spaceship? I don't remember. I know in Aliens the corp tells Ripley they setup a human colony on that wasteland of a planet. I think they were terraforming it too? But I don't remember them saying anything like, 'ya, we found the horseshoe ship and destroyed it.' I think they told Ripley they didn't find anything she wrote about in her logs. But it's been a long time since I've seen Aliens; I might be forgetting plenty.

[Angra]

Originally Posted by Sculpt

Huh? Where in the Alien movies did they destroy the horseshoe spaceship? I don't remember. I know in Aliens the corp tells Ripley they setup a human colony on that wasteland of a planet. I think they were terraforming it too? But I don't remember them saying anything like, 'ya, we found the horseshoe ship and destroyed it.' I think they told Ripley they didn't find anything she wrote about in her logs. But it's been a long time since I've seen Aliens; I might be forgetting plenty.

Wasn't it destroyed in Prometheus?

[ImmortalSlasher]

Originally Posted by Sculpt

Huh? Where in the Alien movies did they destroy the horseshoe spaceship? I don't remember. I know in Aliens the corp tells Ripley they setup a human colony on that wasteland of a planet. I think they were terraforming it too? But I don't remember them saying anything like, 'ya, we found the horseshoe ship and destroyed it.' I think they told Ripley they didn't find anything she wrote about in her logs. But it's been a long time since I've seen Aliens; I might be forgetting plenty.

It's been a while since I've seen it too. They didn't show the ship destroyed in Aliens. But you can kind of assume that the explosion might have destroyed the spaceship. Or that something was going on researching and removing the eggs from the ship since they did have multiple facehuggers at the colony. Also that Ripley would be competent enough to say we need to nuke that ship before we leave to make sure. We can assume for the most part that they didn't remove the ship in Aliens during the time of Newt's family and Ripley's journey because they had to go check things out with the Space Marines. Why would they check things out if they had the ship and knew the contents?

Originally Posted by Angra

Wasn't it destroyed in Prometheus?

Prometheus was a different ship on a different planet.

[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by ImmortalSlasher

It's been a while since I've seen it too. They didn't show the ship destroyed in Aliens. But you can kind of assume that the explosion might have destroyed the spaceship. Or that something was going on researching and removing the eggs from the ship since they did have multiple facehuggers at the colony. Also that Ripley would be competent enough to say we need to nuke that ship before we leave to make sure. We can assume for the most part that they didn't remove the ship in Aliens during the time of Newt's family and Ripley's journey because they had to go check things out with the Space Marines. Why would they check things out if they had the ship and knew the contents?

Ah, good points. Burke wouldn't have been trying to bring the Aliens back if the Co already had the ship.

The explosion at the end of Aliens was said to be huge, and we'd have to assume the horseshoe ship was close to the colonists to infect them, so it'd probably would be destroyed. But the ship may have been a good distance, and the colonist had been exploring and brought an alien back with them. It's possible the ship could be intact, just not likely.

[ImmortalSlasher]

Originally Posted by Sculpt

Ah, good points. Burke wouldn't have been trying to bring the Aliens back if the Co already had the ship.

The explosion at the end of Aliens was said to be huge, and we'd have to assume the horseshoe ship was close to the colonists to infect them, so it'd probably would be destroyed. But the ship may have been a good distance, and the colonist had been exploring and brought an alien back with them. It's possible the ship could be intact, just not likely.

Both Alien and Aliens were well thought movies. Not so much any of the sequels. They could always say there were different divisions of the corporation since it's so big. One part didn't know what the other was doing. But it's safe to assume that Burke knew about what was going on there. He did send Newt's family to take a look.

I think the colonist's experiments got out of hand. Maybe a loose facehugger or baby Alien. I don't imagine the facehuggers making the trip to the colony outside of the eggs. But the Aliens do going by Newt telling Ripley that they come out at night. I would guess that if the colonists didn't remove all the eggs or destroy them in testing that the Aliens removed them from that ship. They were "busy little creatures" after all.

And still with the ending of Aliens, they would have to make Ripley incompetent not to nuke that ship just to be sure. It was damaged in the original Alien and I doubt it could take the sort of blast that happened at the end of Aliens.

[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by ImmortalSlasher

Both Alien and Aliens were well thought movies. Not so much any of the sequels. They could always say there were different divisions of the corporation since it's so big. One part didn't know what the other was doing. But it's safe to assume that Burke knew about what was going on there. He did send Newt's family to take a look.

I think the colonist's experiments got out of hand. Maybe a loose facehugger or baby Alien. I don't imagine the facehuggers making the trip to the colony outside of the eggs. But the Aliens do going by Newt telling Ripley that they come out at night. I would guess that if the colonists didn't remove all the eggs or destroy them in testing that the Aliens removed them from that ship. They were "busy little creatures" after all.

And still with the ending of Aliens, they would have to make Ripley incompetent not to nuke that ship just to be sure. It was damaged in the original Alien and I doubt it could take the sort of blast that happened at the end of Aliens.

Ah I got ya, right, at the end of Aliens, Ripley had command of the Marine destroyer, and she would have sought out the horseshoe ship and nuked it.

It is interesting, the Co had something to do with the colonists being there -- which is weird, like going back to the days of the East Indian Tea Company.

Anyway, we know the colonist were experimenting on the Alien facehuggers. But if we take Alien/Aliens at face value, the Co only knew the Nostomo went missing, & they didn't find Ripley's escape pod for 57 yrs, and planet was colonized 20 yrs before Ripley was found. Burke sent the colonists to the ship after he heard Ripley's story.

If the Co knew about the alien before the Nostromo launched, or received transmissions from Ash or Ripley before Nostromo was destroyed, the colony appeared to have little alien research progress to show for 20 yrs. Plus, if the Co knew about the alien, as a fact, & as the chief reason to go to LV426, why wait 27 yrs before sending 'colonists' with children?

Of course Ash had orders to bring back alien life form, crew expendable, but that may have been standing orders.

[Baron Von Marlon]

I like to think
The explosion was local and destroyed the base and its surroundings. Don't remember seeing the ship in Aliens so if it was out of sight, there might have been enough distance between the ship and the base to withstand the blast.

The ship was discovered after the humans were done terraforming and building the base. Propbably small groups went out to check the rest of the planet, found the ship, couple of people got facehugged, brought back to the base and the shit starts. After that they experimented on facehuggers.

Ripley leaving happened quite fast. And after that she had to deal with the queen. So there already could've been some distance between them and the planet so too far to nuke? Can't remember if they said the ship carries nukes.
We could also say for the sake of unofficial sequel, that you need launch codes. Because the company doesn't want unauthorised destruction of things they might have a use for. Like a huge alien spaceship.

Now someone make this sequel!

[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Marlon

I like to think
The explosion was local and destroyed the base and its surroundings. Don't remember seeing the ship in Aliens so if it was out of sight, there might have been enough distance between the ship and the base to withstand the blast.

The ship was discovered after the humans were done terraforming and building the base. Propbably small groups went out to check the rest of the planet, found the ship, couple of people got facehugged, brought back to the base and the shit starts. After that they experimented on facehuggers.

Ripley leaving happened quite fast. And after that she had to deal with the queen. So there already could've been some distance between them and the planet so too far to nuke? Can't remember if they said the ship carries nukes.
We could also say for the sake of unofficial sequel, that you need launch codes. Because the company doesn't want unauthorised destruction of things they might have a use for. Like a huge alien spaceship.

Now someone make this sequel!

We can tell you didn't read ImmortalSlasher & my last posts . I basically wrote the same things you did, and then ImmortalSlasher revealed most of the answers to our like-reasonings.

The colonists didn't find the old horseshoe-shaped alien ship on accident by exploring.

In Aliens, Ripley told Burke she found Burke's directive to the colonist to go to the horseshoe-shaped alien ship, & that Burke didn't warn the colonists about the alien creature that wiped out Ripley's crew. If you remember, Ripley told Burke she was going to expose him, that's why he locked specifically Ripley in the room with the facehuggers. This Burke-directive was after he heard Ripley's story at Ripley's company hearing on the destruction of the Nostomo.

You reasoned Ripley in the Marine ship was too far away from the planet, or the Marine ship didn't have nukes. But in Aliens, after most of the marines get wiped out in the first alien encounter, Ripley says, "I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure", they weren't talking about the station overload, cause that hadn't happened yet. I suggest we can assume she was talking about a military weapon aboard the Marine ship.

Plus, I think we can assume, based on Ripley's intelligence & resolve, that after they escaped the station blast, that Ripley would go back & destroy the alien ship. But it is true, the film didn't mention that.

[Baron Von Marlon]

Originally Posted by Sculpt

We can tell you didn't read ImmortalSlasher & my last posts . I basically wrote the same things you did, and then ImmortalSlasher revealed most of the answers to our like-reasonings.

The colonists didn't find the old horseshoe-shaped alien ship on accident by exploring.

In Aliens, Ripley told Burke she found Burke's directive to the colonist to go to the horseshoe-shaped alien ship, & that Burke didn't warn the colonists about the alien creature that wiped out Ripley's crew. If you remember, Ripley told Burke she was going to expose him, that's why he locked specifically Ripley in the room with the facehuggers. This Burke-directive was after he heard Ripley's story at Ripley's company hearing on the destruction of the Nostomo.

You reasoned Ripley in the Marine ship was too far away from the planet, or the Marine ship didn't have nukes. But in Aliens, after most of the marines get wiped out in the first alien encounter, Ripley says, "I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure", they weren't talking about the station overload, cause that hadn't happened yet. I suggest we can assume she was talking about a military weapon aboard the Marine ship.

Plus, I think we can assume, based on Ripley's intelligence & resolve, that after they escaped the station blast, that Ripley would go back & destroy the alien ship. But it is true, the film didn't mention that.

English isn't my first language so I probably missed or misread a couple of things.

I agree now on the discovery of the ship.

Still not sure on the nuking part.
-Who knows what condition the ship was in when they left with it. Did it have enough fuel to go there? And back? Sure Ripley wouldn't mind going on a suicide mission. But not now that she has a kid to take care off.
-After a nuclear blast is the atmosphere safe for the ship to get close enough especially with the crazy weather over there.
-If the alien ship wasn't that far from the site, maybe Ripley assumed it would get destroyed too. But it didn't because it's made out of Engineer steel or something