HDC Presents: 100 Years of Horror

[Kandarian Demon]

Originally Posted by metternich1815

I am 19 (I was born June 16, 1994).

I hope you interpret this as the compliment it's meant to be, but I would honestly have thought you were around my age... and I'm 36 :D

[fortunato]

I don't really like Natural Born Killers on the list. I'm all for keeping genre boundaries wide, but even that seems like a stretch. I think Tremors belongs on the list before NBK. It's not perfect, but it was a fun and important film for future horror-lovers like me to watch as a kid. And it's still a bit of confectionery pleasure. It certainly belongs on a horror list before NBK, I think.

[metternich1815]

Originally Posted by fortunato

I don't really like Natural Born Killers on the list. I'm all for keeping genre boundaries wide, but even that seems like a stretch. I think Tremors belongs on the list before NBK. It's not perfect, but it was a fun and important film for future horror-lovers like me to watch as a kid. And it's still a bit of confectionery pleasure. It certainly belongs on a horror list before NBK, I think.

While I agree that Tremors is a worthy inclusion on the honorable mention list, I believe that Natural Born Killers is a much better film and definitely worthy of inclusion.

[The Villain]

Originally Posted by fortunato

I don't really like Natural Born Killers on the list. I'm all for keeping genre boundaries wide, but even that seems like a stretch. I think Tremors belongs on the list before NBK. It's not perfect, but it was a fun and important film for future horror-lovers like me to watch as a kid. And it's still a bit of confectionery pleasure. It certainly belongs on a horror list before NBK, I think.

I actually agree with you. I don't even consider Natural Born Killers a horror movie. I really like the film but as you said, its a stretch to say it's horror. I only backed it because we seemed stalled here and i wanted to get things going. I'd prefer Tremors on the list but then again it's only the Honorable Mentions.

[fortunato]

Originally Posted by metternich1815

While I agree that Tremors is a worthy inclusion on the honorable mention list, I believe that Natural Born Killers is a much better film and definitely worthy of inclusion.

I'm not saying that Tremors is a better or worse film than NBK; that's immaterial. My argument is that NBK doesn't belong on a horror list.

[Sculpt]

Originally Posted by fortunato

I'm not saying that Tremors is a better or worse film than NBK; that's immaterial. My argument is that NBK doesn't belong on a horror list.

Ya, I said it earlier in the honorable mentions debate (not thinking of NBK as horror, but more so thinking it's not necessarily significant to horror). It's too bad you weren't available to stop in earlier, missed your solid input, you could have supported Tremors and a few others.

[_____V_____]

Originally Posted by fortunato

I'm not saying that Tremors is a better or worse film than NBK; that's immaterial. My argument is that NBK doesn't belong on a horror list.

Is that a negative vote for NBK, fort? If yes, then NBK will drop down and we will have to choose between 3 films for that final HM spot.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthre...943#post954943

[metternich1815]

Originally Posted by fortunato

I'm not saying that Tremors is a better or worse film than NBK; that's immaterial. My argument is that NBK doesn't belong on a horror list.

I get what you're saying now. I do not necessarily agree, but I cast a pretty wide net of what is a horror movie.

[Giganticface]

I wouldn't cry if Natural Born Killers got dropped, unless it was for a weak film. I actually think it has a place on the Honorable Mentions, which IMO don't need to be straight horror. Here are my comments on the film the first time we discussed the 90s.

I think it's a perfect representation of how the 90s was not a horror decade -- the genre's theatrics and "simplicity" -- were completely out of fashion, just like new wave and hair metal were replaced by alternative rock. Horror was either satired (Scream) or embedded in other genres, like crime mysteries (Se7en, Silence of the Lambs), drama (Sixth Sense) and comedy (Army of Darkness, the Frighteners). Natural Born Killers is a lot of things, most notably a social commentary, while also being an effective horror movie, especially the scene with the Indian hallucination ritual.

If it did get dropped, I'd much rather see it get replaced by something unique, like Ravenous or Pin, but those films haven't been discussed. Of the ones that have, I think Funny Games is the most memorable. I don't dislike Tremors. I'd vote for that over a couple others that have been mentioned.

[Kandarian Demon]

Originally Posted by The Villain

I actually agree with you. I don't even consider Natural Born Killers a horror movie.

To be honest... me neither.