HDC Presents: 100 Years of Horror

[Giganticface]

Added Night of the Hunter and El Vampiro to my watchlist. Gotta love this thread.

[realdealblues]

I've seen Night Of The Hunter probably 50 times and there is no doubt it's a great movie but I just don't consider it horror. Thriller Yes, Drama Yes, Film-Noir sure, but Horror...I just don't really think so.

[neverending]

I couldn't find a picture of the scene where Mitchum evokes the Frankenstein monster, but these will do:

[neverending]

HDC Top 100 Horror Villains.
http://horror.com/forum/showpost.php...9&postcount=21

[Kandarian Demon]

Neverending, I honestly love your passion for the movies you love and the horror genre in general, and I love reading your posts, so please don't take this personally :)

But if I remember correctly, you said recently that you didn't consider Alien to be a horror movie (and I actually agree!), but I am sure you can find that on many "best of horror" lists as well.

Anyway my honest opinion is, if we vote/give negative votes/back/withdraw backings based on other people's opinions and not on our own, then we might as well just copy one of the other many many lists of "horror movies that the critics were paid to say that we must like, so we will add them even if we haven't seen them". The list wouldn't actually reflect if the movies on it are any good or not.

What will make this list interesting is seeing the opinions of "real people", and not movie critics who aren't brave enough to have their own individual opinions. Sure, some choices so far have made me think "whaaaat?!", but I am curious to see what a list created by actual horror fans will look like when it's completed.

[neverending]

I question the veracity of any "horror fan" who doesn't consider this one of the best horror films of the 50s, if not of all time.

[Straker]

Originally Posted by Kandarian Demon

Anyway my honest opinion is, if we vote/give negative votes/back/withdraw backings based on other people's opinions and not on our own, then we might as well just copy one of the other many many lists of "horror movies that the critics were paid to say that we must like, so we will add them even if we haven't seen them". The list wouldn't actually reflect if the movies on it are any good or not.

I don't think its such a bad thing to make a small leap of faith now and then, especially when its coming from the opinion of someone you respect.... I agree with what you are saying in principal, but the truth is when it comes to people backing movies they haven't seen, we are actually talking about a tiny percentage of the final vote (I imagine less than 1%). I think there's actually an irony to what you are saying, because I believe the exact opposite is what happens if people aren't prepared to make the odd leap of faith now and then, or maybe bend a little here and there, why? Well that's simple.... Most people have only seen 'cookie cutter' movie lists and 'classic' movies. I actually think what can elevate the list beyond the typical staple diet of movies everyone has seen or everyone can put in a box is making small leaps of faith here and there.

Maybe I'm just biased because I've had a few people step up and 'blind' back a few movies that I have supported but the truth is they are movies that should be there and that you probably wont find on many horror lists available online because they simply haven't had the exposure of the movies that every single one of us have seen. I don't think the list becomes interesting by having 200 movies that every single person has seen or is aware of, I actually think it becomes interesting when the spotlight gets put on movies that people simply haven't seen.

Most of the movies in the cut so far are no different from every single critics top lists anyway, so real people or critics, it doesn't matter, the vast majority of our list is cookie cutter and can be found on every other horror site. I say embrace the over looked and under valued, even if it means trusting the judgement of others now and then. :cool:

[Kandarian Demon]

Originally Posted by Straker

I think there's actually an irony to what you are saying, because I believe the exact opposite is what happens if people aren't prepared to make the odd leap of faith now and then, or maybe bend a little here and there, why? Well that's simple.... Most people have only seen 'cookie cutter' movie lists and 'classic' movies. I actually think what can elevate the list beyond the typical staple diet of movies everyone has seen or everyone can put in a box is making small leaps of faith here and there.

But a vote for a movie you haven't seen means nothing. Except that you like and respect the person who asked you to vote for it. Maybe if you had actually watched the movie, you would have hated it. It's possible you would have loved it, too - but watch it first and then form your OWN opinion. Well, I don't make the rules - but that's my opinion :cool:

Originally Posted by Straker

I don't think the list becomes interesting by having 200 movies that every single person has seen or is aware of, I actually think it becomes interesting when the spotlight gets put on movies that people simply haven't seen.

I'm definitely not saying that we as a group should all have seen every single movie on the list :) I'm saying that when someone gives their vote/backing for a movie that they personally haven't seen yet, then it's not really worth anything. The movie might make the list, but it doesn't mean it actually deserves to be on it.

But yes, it's DEFINITELY interesting to see some not so well known titles in these threads, and I'm always interested in hearing other people's opinions and checking out movies I haven't seen before. A lot of crap has won awards, and a lot of gems get no attention.

I have been a horror fan all my life, and I respect the opinions of others, but I also respect my own - even if that means that someone thinks I'm an idiot or "not a real horror fan". I don't feel the need to impress anyone - but I do love a good debate :)

[_____V_____]

Found our 21st finalist in The Night of the Hunter.

Two films have equal backings/secondings - The War of the Worlds and The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms. One of them might be our 22nd finalist, if they garner 1 more supporter.

That is, if no other film(s) spring up more backers/seconders.

http://www.horror.com/forum/showthre...616#post953616

As for the ruling for the "In The Cut" films, they stay out of this debate.

[The Villain]

If no one else casts a vote I'll remove my backing from War of The World's since I backed both it and Beast from 20,000 Fathoms and i consider that the better film one which I thought to be inspiration for other monster movies that came later