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Old 06-03-2009, 07:04 AM
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yeah urge...I gave it another chance.

a couple of smiles maybe...but that's about it.
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:44 AM
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It might no be Citizen Kane but OUT FOR JUSTICE is an amazingly entertaining film. William Forsythe stills the show. Plus Seagal gets to fight Dan Inosanto..

The first time i saw this was the opening week in the cinema with a 6 pack of cheap cider.

I'll hold my hands up and admit that my dismissal of Seagal films is based upon seeing maybe three films, Ive since avoided them like the plague. Out For Justice I dont recognize so I make this pledge to see it should it be shown on one of the numerous cable channels.
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:46 AM
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I couldn't disagree with you more about the state of science fiction films in the 70s. Some of the science fiction films that came out in the 70s which I consider far, far better movies than Star Wars:

Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind
THX 1138
A Boy and His Dog
The Andromeda Strain
A Clockwork Orange
Fantastic Planet
The Man Who Fell to Earth
Silent Running
Sluaghterhouse Five
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"Completely DEAD?" Well, if by completely dead you mean "experiencing a rennaisance by producing science fiction films of a higher quality and greater depth of storyline and width of subject and theme than ever before" you may be right.
I liked all of those movies a lot (except for A Boy and his Dog, which I have never seen), but I might have used the wrong words. By "completely dead", I guess I mean the kind of sci-fi that Star Wars is...i.e. Space/Fantasy opera. Not necessarily "all science fiction", so my mistake for that.

I, obviously, disagree but I am also a fan of Star Wars. I wasn't even alive when the first movie came out, but I was 4 when Return of the Jedi came out and it was a completely magical experience. Did I "use my brain", of course not...I was fucking 4 years old, hahaha. It was exactly the magical space universe I needed it to be and I've been a fan ever since. Obviously, everyone's tastes are different, but Star wars *for better or worse* has a style to it like no other series of movies and that style and universe deserves what it's earned....in my opinion of course.

But that's Star Wars for ya, right? Lots of people hate it...this is no new argument. :D

The only point I was trying to make was that *most* of the time a "classic" is a classic for a reason. It could be it was doing something different at the time it came out, it could be because it was actually a stellar experience, it could be any number of things, but most of the time they earned being called a classic. I don't mean all classic movies are GOOD, I just mean they deserve it. For example, Casablanca is a classic, but I would never in a million years enjoy that movie. It's just not for me. But I agree it deserves to be called a classic and it's not "overrated", I am sure.
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I'll hold my hands up and admit that my dismissal of Seagal films is based upon seeing maybe three films, Ive since avoided them like the plague. Out For Justice I dont recognize so I make this pledge to see it should it be shown on one of the numerous cable channels.
His first 5 films were enjoyable trash - OUT FOR JUSTICE stands out a mile - its megaviolent and has such hilarious dialogue. MARKED FOR DEATH is another fave of mine too - alot of ppl like UNDER SEIGE too (me not so much) - pretty much everything after that is shite. A good guide is if he kicks someone in the film then its crap :-)

One thing that can be said for him is that he made a pretty much useless martial art (Akido) and make it loo very effective on film..
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:04 AM
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His first 5 films were enjoyable trash - OUT FOR JUSTICE stands out a mile - its megaviolent and has such hilarious dialogue. MARKED FOR DEATH is another fave of mine too - alot of ppl like UNDER SEIGE too (me not so much) - pretty much everything after that is shite. A good guide is if he kicks someone in the film then its crap :-)

One thing that can be said for him is that he made a pretty much useless martial art (Akido) and make it loo very effective on film..
I'm not much of a Seagal fan at all but I LOVE Marked for Death for some inexplicable reason. :p I do also like Out for Justice and Under Siege.


Oh and two other movies that so many other people seem to like that I don't care for....
High Tension
Saw

I find both of the endings more funny than anything. High Tension had me until the end (though I had kind of guessed where they were heading with it). For me, it was more disappointing then just about any movie I have seen. Saw I found boring or just kind of silly throughout (Cary Elwes was annoying as hell).
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:05 AM
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For example, Casablanca is a classic, but I would never in a million years enjoy that movie. It's just not for me. But I agree it deserves to be called a classic and it's not "overrated", I am sure.
Bah- if you can't enjoy Casablanca you deserve Star Wars!







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Old 06-03-2009, 12:14 PM
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Bah- if you can't enjoy Casablanca you deserve Star Wars!







That was a joke. :o
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:34 PM
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Susperia. I've seen it a few times, and really tried to enjoy it, but I can't. Totally overrated.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:30 PM
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Suspiria is a work of art. One of the most visually stunning horror films ever produced. Along with Eyes Without a Face. Every frame is poetic.

For me, Halloween is the most over-rated horror film. The only John Carpenter film that I saw merit in, was The Thing. I think as a director himself, he is over-rated. Hate me, I know threats will be flooding in. ;-p

The Dark Knight. Ugh, can we stop talking about that MOVIE already? A copy-and-paste of classic crime dramas, acted out by a raspy-voiced man in a bat suit. Whoop-dee-doo.

Jaws.

Loathed every minute of it. I'm not usually a nature-loving son of a bitch, but the entire time I kept saying; Wow, this film shows everything that is wrong with humanity (and everything that is wrong with film, considering it redefined film-making upon release... for the worse. Popcorn and dynamite. Yuck.)

And really... an exploding shark? Ugh. Makes me sick.
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:13 PM
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Susperia. I've seen it a few times, and really tried to enjoy it, but I can't. Totally overrated.
Obviously merely my opinion...but I could see someone seeing it as overrated if they just went into it watching it as a slasher flick.

Ya gotta allow yourself to get a little bit "artsy" with that one to truly enjoy it...you gotta look beyond the veil and pay attention to the camera work, the colors of the lighting, the style, everything.

Also...do not watch in a group with a bunch of friends. People talking and rolling their eyes will ruin it for sure.

Just my 2 cents.
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