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Old 12-20-2008, 09:51 PM
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I think weed is trashy IMO.
I find any kind've overendulgence in an illicit substance pretty trashy...but yeah it does seem like you're specifically targeting those that use weed as a preferred substance - not all of them are as you've described, in fact, these sound like the kind of people normal recreational weed users probably wouldn't want around either.
If you've used your own experience to dictate how you behave and conduct yourself, that's all good, but making statements like you just have is kind of like saying that every person that drinks habitually is a lowlife, drink driving, irresponsible piece of shit - I don't drink too much myself, but I know enough to acknowledge that there's a line that some cross, and some do not.


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Just like drinking or any other substance, it's about doing it responsibly, not cutting it off entirely.
Absolutely...it's those that don't, that give a relatively harmless substance a worse name, by misrepresenting themselves like that.
Everything can become a gateway drug, but you make the path that leads up to it, or away from it.
Just a matter of moderation, if you can do these things while maintaining some kind of productivity in life, and you're not hurting yourself or any around you, then it's all good...if you can't, then you shouldn't.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:09 PM
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LOLZ

oohhh so defensive. Get mad at me because I do not approve of an illegal substance that may not be as destructive as others, but still a drug nonetheless. I still see it as a problem more so than a rad recreation or means of leisure. Weed may not be as dirty or dangerous as other drugs but still leads people down that path of exploration.
Q:"omg are you saying that all people that smoke weed are going to do other drugs!?"
A:No but it CAN lead people down that path. What do you do when your area is dry and there is no weed? hmm...Find something else maybe?
Did I say that people that smoke weed are trashy? Though a lot of people I know are... No, I said that IMO the drug itself, I find trashy.

I have a question for all of you Marijuana advocates:

Why did you start smoking it? And why not find use of another legal substance that has the same effects? Is it that awesome to break the law and get pissed when people don't see it as being right? OMG that makes me such a biased asshole right? Because I am not seeing the perks of breaking the law and having a "good time" on a daily basis? haha this is funny.

oh btw

Spallalala- alcohol is legal and you cannot deny that weed stinks like ass. Or maybe you are used to the stench? How do you think people get busted for it 90% of the time? The smell? Red eyes? Tiredness?

amc420vt- It is still an illegal drug which I find indefinitely repulsive. I didn't say that everyone that does it is.

becky.horror- I'm uneducated because I think weed is gross? I don't care wtf people do to deal with their problems and you didn't need to write me a mini novel about why people do drugs. I really don't care why they do it.

woodoo why the hell are we arguing about pot?



anyways thank you for the entertainment it really made my night :D
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:53 PM
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I don't really want to try and make the situation worse, but I'll say what I've got to, and nb: I'll try not to come across as condescending or insulting about it...

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Get mad at me because I do not approve of an illegal substance that may not be as destructive as others, but still a drug nonetheless.
I don't think anyone's really mad at you...I've seen you called biased a few times, I've seen some people come in and say that from a first person perspective they disagree with you, and I've seen some people say that you seem to be going largely off what you've personally experienced through friends...again, I don't think anyone's mad at you...that said, it's a natural response to disagree with someone who is saying things that are incorrect when you know it's not factual, or if there's a different perspective, you will hear it, no?
Re - the legal issue, in all honesty it's not really a leg to stand on, I've been down this path too many times to again...just to make a short point - the reasons it's classed as illegal are pretty stupid if you look into them, and furthermore comparative repercussions of this substance vs others, always shine favourably.
That I use it doesn't mean I don't respect the law...in all other cases I do just that, only cannot get behind this particular prohibition.

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Did I say that people that smoke weed are trashy? Though a lot of people I know are... No, I said that IMO the drug itself, I find trashy.
That's kind of like saying "the glass is trashy" "the chair is trashy", no? Because without the interaction of people, that's all it is, an inanimate object...it's not like it's fluro green or wearing flares...?
So, look I get that you might not have said that directly, but I'm sure you can see why people might've at very least assumed it was a reference towards them.

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I still see it as a problem more so than a rad recreation or means of leisure. Weed may not be as dirty or dangerous as other drugs but still leads people down that path of exploration.
Again, two things that are legal are far bigger "gateway" drugs in my experience...I mean, again I'm falling back to the "weed vs" thing, but I think in this particular point is where it stands to the most reason.
Shit, drinking a soda is a gateway drug - people that call weed that, just don't like weed, or cannot moderate themselves hence judging everyone by their own experiences.

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No but it CAN lead people down that path. What do you do when your area is dry and there is no weed? hmm...Find something else maybe?
This again sounds like a "your friends" thing.
My answer is, I go without until next time...I'm not into substance substitution, in fact most folks I know that have had weed aside from a few fuckwits, are pretty much against taking it any further than that.

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alcohol is legal and you cannot deny that weed stinks like ass. Or maybe you are used to the stench? How do you think people get busted for it 90% of the time? The smell? Red eyes? Tiredness?
Alcohol is legal, where weed is not on account of some (again should you care to look into it) pretty silly reasons.
The smell, well we vapourise so that's largely eradicated. It stinks if you're mixing with tobacco (most do, we don't), or if you're a lazy shit that has dirty bongs and pipes lying allover the place, multiple people using your place as a weed joint, again, all something that's within the control of the user to handle.
Burning weed, smells...but I can't personally say that a pure green joint burning is that bad a smell at all, hell I prefer it waaay more than the smell of someone lighting up a taylor made cigarette anywhere near me.
Getting busted - have never been.
Red eyes, manageable.
Tiredness, over indulgence.
People that get stupid, get busted...those ones that you're not drawing a line between themselves and people like myself...the "problem" smokers, the people that do it all day, the people that make it their life, hang in groups and think it's a good idea to hang sbout smoking with multiple people to the point it's completely obvious. People that do nothing but talk about weed.
Again, these people, are like our "alcoholics". There is a difference.

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I'm uneducated because I think weed is gross? I don't care wtf people do to deal with their problems and you didn't need to write me a mini novel about why people do drugs. I really don't care why they do it.
Yeah, I'd have not really went with "uneducated" as you at least know partially what you're talking about - but you are very biased, which borders more on general ignorance. Not trying to be insulting there, but your experience is just that. Yours.

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Why did you start smoking it? And why not find use of another legal substance that has the same effects?
I started as a teen, getting high with friends...it was there, and I didn't perceive it as too dangerous, as it turned out that was correct in my case. Never really did it "all the time" never really got into it.
I'm a more regular user now.
Why?
It relaxes me, it gives me great healthier sleep (and no, I don't oversleep), in times past it's stimulated my creativity greatly and I've come up with some very good recipes and ideas while under the influence...this is of course as it does change your perception and the way you see things a little.
Also, I find it can actually help you focus on various tasks too.

Why not find a legal equivalent?
So the closest most people will see, ignoring suggestions of some kind've chemical substitute, would be alcohol.
I've been arrested and have had multiple problems with this substance in the past...has made me do/consider way many more stupid things than weed ever has, that could be just me, but from my outside "perspective" on drinkers I sincerely doubt it's only me, and doubt that "me on alcohol" was anything other than the tip of the iceberg for this.
Besides, I don't really think anything I've tried DOES have the same effect...it's a mellow effect which is not overwhelming - I can't say this in the case of most other things I've ever encountered.

Anyways, not going for argument, just providing information you've missed - If you're going to come back at me with nothing but attitude, don't. I haven't attacked you and expect the same.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:04 AM
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LOLZ

oohhh so defensive. Get mad at me because I do not approve of an illegal substance that may not be as destructive as others, but still a drug nonetheless. I still see it as a problem more so than a rad recreation or means of leisure. Weed may not be as dirty or dangerous as other drugs but still leads people down that path of exploration.
Q:"omg are you saying that all people that smoke weed are going to do other drugs!?"
A:No but it CAN lead people down that path. What do you do when your area is dry and there is no weed? hmm...Find something else maybe?
Did I say that people that smoke weed are trashy? Though a lot of people I know are... No, I said that IMO the drug itself, I find trashy.

I have a question for all of you Marijuana advocates:

Why did you start smoking it? And why not find use of another legal substance that has the same effects? Is it that awesome to break the law and get pissed when people don't see it as being right? OMG that makes me such a biased asshole right? Because I am not seeing the perks of breaking the law and having a "good time" on a daily basis? haha this is funny.

oh btw

Spallalala- alcohol is legal and you cannot deny that weed stinks like ass. Or maybe you are used to the stench? How do you think people get busted for it 90% of the time? The smell? Red eyes? Tiredness?

amc420vt- It is still an illegal drug which I find indefinitely repulsive. I didn't say that everyone that does it is.

becky.horror- I'm uneducated because I think weed is gross? I don't care wtf people do to deal with their problems and you didn't need to write me a mini novel about why people do drugs. I really don't care why they do it.

woodoo why the hell are we arguing about pot?



anyways thank you for the entertainment it really made my night :D

haha you crack me up..but so do most ignorant people.

Anyway I think cheebs has said what has needed to be said.

I don't wanna argue about weed just give a reality check when needed.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:28 AM
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I just love that I'm "ignorant" because I do not like or approve of weed. That's really smart. Weed must be the new jesus. If I'm athiest will you call me ignorant? Or uneducated? Oh my gosh I'm so horrible and dumb because I don't like to get high. I'm done here. Tried to voice my opinion and every body tried to jump on me for it.
Phalanx, I appreciate you trying to debate rather than insult.
Weed must be the new pro life vs pro choice battle or something.
I just didn't know that many people felt so strongly that weed was a good thing. It's really not that big of a deal to bicker so much about.
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:37 AM
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Horde, of course. :p

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Old 12-23-2008, 04:52 AM
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:17 AM
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:20 AM
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how come girl nerds are hot - but boy nerds are just ... nerds ?
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:43 AM
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how come girl nerds are hot - but boy nerds are just ... nerds ?
because women are inherently fun to look at, glasses are hot, and when a woman is into geeky shit they are almost always into other weird stuff, which can only be good for whatever man is with them.


Guy nerds are just dirty socially inept retards who (in some cases) think they are better than others because they know the Thac0 of a red dragon in the 2nd Edition monstrous compendium.


For the record, i dont. And my wife is hot. Even in her glasses.
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