The Gay Thread

[ferretchucker]

This is going from what I was told a few years ago, so it is likely to be wrong.


It think it's something to do with the virus being in greater numbers around the Anus.

[Phalanx]

I think you're along the way to being right there.
From what I've read, It's not about concentration of the virus around any particular areas in the body it's about anal sex producing more friction and resulting in more tiny "cuts" forming on the parts that have contact - this happens with vaginal sex too, but less so...but yknow, fuck a person unprotected when they have AIDS, the two are among the highest risk.

But yknow...AIDS is only ever born out off stupidity or ignorance, sometimes both.
Either you don't know the person you're choosing to sleep with unprotected half as well as you ought to, or you're a goddamn needle sharing junkie fool.

[hacelikewhoa]

Originally Posted by bwind22

I understand it and will now explain it. (My understanding and explanation should not be mistaken for agreement though.) ;)

The majority of the country is Christian. Marriage is a sacrament. The Christian definition of marriage is that it is a union between a man & woman vowing to God to spend their life together.

Where we, as a country, went completely wrong was that we forgot about keeping church seperate from state and began giving married couples special privelages that others don't get. So now Marriage has a legal definition as well as a Christian one. That is where we erred.

The Christians are against gay marriage because it infringes on their definition of marriage. The gays are for it simply because they want the same rights a married couple receives from the government.

This whole fiasco could have been avoided if marriage had just been left a religious term to begin with. Instead, the legal system could have called religious marriage a civil union and then granted special rights and privelages to civil unions, gay or straight, religious or secular.

*shrug*

Seems obvious, but because our government already fucked it up. I don't see how they can fix it now, aside from just calling marriage a civil union in legal terms and granting all current marital rights to all civil unions.

Basically, the religious folks want to protect the meaning of one of their sacraments. The gay people just want equal treatment. It's all caught up in the verbage being used though, which is pretty ridiculous to me.

I think you summed it up rather accurately. That's my biggest argument against banning gay marriage. The fact that we have the 'right' to are own religious beliefs and yet we still have laws enforced that are based on christian beliefs. It's all fucked.

[Disease]

The Gay thread turns into the aids thread... didn't it all begin with a monkey...

This thread is getting a little bit ridicurus..

[Despare]

Originally Posted by Disease

The Gay thread turns into the aids thread... didn't it all begin with a monkey...

This thread is getting a little bit ridicurus..

AIDS is a gay disease so it's logical that the conversation would head in this direction.

"The Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center has abandoned a long-held homosexual activist contention by declaring on billboards posted throughout Southern California that HIV/AIDS is a “gay disease.”

According to a report by the Los Angeles Times, the Center is trying to address rapidly increasing HIV infection rates among the homosexual population by rallying the gay community to increasing vigilance against exposure to the disease. Activists for the homosexual lifestyle have, until this current development, strongly, and sometimes vehemently refused to admit that the disease is predominantly generated among homosexual men.

The ad campaign, which is also running in magazines, is in part a response to the findings of public health officials, who have noted that three out of four cases of HIV infections are found in men who engage in homosexual activity, the United Press International reported.

In 2005 US health officials reported an alarming eight percent increase in HIV infection rates in one year alone among homosexual and bisexual men. The Center for Disease Control also warned that a survey of 15-29 year old men who engaged in homosexual activity “reported that the proportion of unrecognized HIV infection was as high as 77 %.”

A report by the Public Health Agency of Canada, released in August 2006, revealed a sharp increase in HIV/AIDS infections, with 51 percent of infections found in men engaging in homosexual activity."

[hacelikewhoa]

Wow, as if there weren't enough ignorant people in the world. I can't escape it anywhere I go.

[Phalanx]

Did you think going on the net was actually one of the better escapes...?

[hacelikewhoa]

Originally Posted by Phalanx

Did you think going on the net was actually one of the better escapes...?

good point I guess.

[bwind22]

To think there's still a school of thought out there that considers Aids a "gay" disease is simply mind boggling. In the early 80s, when the disease first started getting a lot of media attention, true, it was mainly in the gay and intravenous needle communities but twenty years later, there's little doubt that it affects everyone; young, old, gay, straight, man, woman, druggies, blood transfusion recipients. Anyone that's sexually active is at risk now, as well as paramedics, nurses, police, anyone injecting anything with used needles and even people receiving blood transfusions (although quite rare). Regardless of how or where it's origin lies or what demographics it affected first, it certainly affects (or could affect) everybody now. Calling it a "gay" disease leads to the assumption that one can't catch it by having heterosexual sex, which is completely false.

[hacelikewhoa]

Originally Posted by bwind22

To think there's still a school of thought out there that considers Aids a "gay" disease is simply mind boggling. In the early 80s, when the disease first started getting a lot of media attention, true, it was mainly in the gay and intravenous needle communities but twenty years later, there's little doubt that it affects everyone; young, old, gay, straight, man, woman, druggies, blood transfusion recipients. Anyone that's sexually active is at risk now, as well as paramedics, nurses, police, anyone injecting anything with used needles and even people receiving blood transfusions (although quite rare). Regardless of how or where it's origin lies or what demographics it affected first, it certainly affects (or could affect) everybody now. Calling it a "gay" disease leads to the assumption that one can't catch it by having heterosexual sex, which is completely false.

thank you

these people are killing me, about to put me in hush mode. I'm growing tired of arguing.