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Old 10-13-2008, 05:22 PM
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Sex and Violence

Is sex and violence something that should never be mixed? There is a banned ad on youtube that seems to point in the direction that horror films are moving. Sexual violence is one of the only things that still seems to shock an audience. Check it out:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-n2lG_jetqw
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:28 PM
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They're intimately connected, but without insight, occasionally humor and sensitivity, they can't go together. Somebody who thinks rape is peachy keen would use rape terribly in his work. Look at Sade. The writing is bad, ethically skewed and transgressive for the hell of it. Being violent or oversexed without a moral compass is bad news in real life or otherwise.
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:28 PM
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I feel like I am missing something here...

Anyway... it would have been more effective if she went down on him and then bit his penis off.
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Old 10-13-2008, 05:32 PM
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They're intimately connected, but without insight, occasionally humor and sensitivity, they can't go together. Somebody who thinks rape is peachy keen would use rape terribly in his work. Look at Sade. The writing is bad, ethically skewed and transgressive for the hell of it. Being violent or oversexed without a moral compass is bad news in real life or otherwise.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:01 PM
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like death and silence

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As usual, Doc is eloquent, right on point, and I agree with him. And to add to that, if you think about any of the base carnal emotions - Love, Fear (ok, I'll stop channeling Donnie Darko), Anger, Sexuality, etc., they are all extremities of the same sphere.

Love can be just as violent and self-destructive as hate can be any day, it's just a matter of ensuring that your actions (be they violence, sex, or both) are not destructive to yourself or the person(s) that you are with.

And if you want to play the semantic game, violence is synonymous with ferocity, fervor, frenzy, intensity - What's a healthy sexual relationship without passion? Just as long as this is passion, and not a desire to honestly do harm to someone (on that vein, this is the issue that I have with some exploitation films; it's specifically about hurting and degradation, though that is certainly the point).

And, on a personal note, I can't get it up unless there's at least a little brutality. ;)

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But back on point... I think that directors are constantly exploring different ways to shock an audience. Sex and violence is so passé by now. A prime example of directors moving forward would be Miike in his movie Visitor Q. The movie isn't necessarily about sexual violence - it's about extremeties of sex AND extremeties of violence, created and juxtaposed specifically to test the audience and make the audience question themselves: Which is more disturbing?
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:05 PM
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Well, when you think about it, who do you envy, people who have nice slow comfy sex, or the ones that rip clothing and destroy furniture?


I am a fan of the latter and have destroyed a bed in my time. I done married that girl :D
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:06 PM
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Well, when you think about it, who do you envy, people who have nice slow comfy sex, or the ones that rip clothing and destroy furniture?


I am a fan of the latter and have destroyed a bed in my time. I done married that girl :D
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:26 PM
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I have a massive grief with the way the media and the entertainment industry manipulate these issues.

Sex and Violence isn't shocking at all to me for the most part, the issue of CONSENT is shocking and at times the media likes to interchange these ideas. I mean no one could be in a sexual, consensual realtionship where there is violence involved? Fuck off, I hate that.

The idea that it is and can be shocking is understandable, but bigotted and short sighted in most cases. It tends to hit to much of a nerve for me to speak eloquently about it I am afriad.

Vodstok, Chrono send those high fives this way when your down this way, for me Sex and the passion behind often leads to a little necessary roughness... and hell a couple of bruises is a damn fine reminder in the morning.
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:22 AM
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