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Old 09-26-2008, 09:46 PM
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Regarding:PURCHASING DIGITAL DOWNLOADS off the internet.

Have you, or would you purchase a digital download horror movie that seemed interesting but had no known name actors in it?

If you would buy a download, what's the least and most you would pay?

If you've actually bought one, what was the process like, and how was the outcome?

Thank you.

No, this is not spam, but it is for indie filmmakers interested in all ways of getting their movie to the people that love the genre.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:52 PM
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No, this is not spam
No it's not spam.
It's an unsolicited attempt at market research, conducted on a platform that would be free of charge to yourself, that will no doubt LEAD to spam once you think you have your target market interested.

Here's my answer. I'd like to download the films for free, or to be able to view them in their entirety through streaming.
For those deemed worthy or purchase, I'd pay between 3-6 USD dependent upon the quality.
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Old 09-26-2008, 10:26 PM
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I buy films that were good enough to get a distributer
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Old 09-26-2008, 10:40 PM
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'It's an unsolicited attempt at market research, conducted on a platform that would be free of charge to yourself"

You're right. I'm going right to the source. The people that actually watch indie horror movies. Would I be better going to a baking site?

"that will no doubt LEAD to spam once you think you have your target market interested."

1000% wrong. I do this for myself, and other film makers who might read it or pass the info to.

"I buy films that were good enough to get a distributer"

Well, since my movie was offered distribution by two distributors, and I turned them both down. You won't see it.

At this particular forum, I keep forgetting how crabby and suspicious so many are.
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Old 09-26-2008, 10:59 PM
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Well, since my movie was offered distribution by two distributors, and I turned them both down. You won't see it.
So you'll deny giving your film an audience?

Sounds counter-productive.

Have you entered competitions? There are tons of horror film fests out there. I go to those because I know there is a screening process - a level of quality control that you cannot get from a blind download.

If the film is of any level of quality, it will draw a distributer and an audience. If you choose to not have your film distributed then you only have yourself to blame for the fact that you can't get your film seen.

Coming to us directly makes your film seem weak. Is that really how you want to be perceived?

I am honestly trying to help you. I have struggled through the business myself and it has taken a very long time, but I know what I'm talking about. You would do well to listen and not get reactionary when you get called on your self-promotional tactics.

Especially since you only seem to pop by to push your films and don't try to become a regular contributing member of the forum.
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:36 AM
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Look, I'd probably buy one right now for $7USD if you upload a youtube video punching yourself in the nose, just hard enough to bleed.
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Look, I'd probably buy one right now for $7USD if you upload a youtube video punching yourself in the nose, just hard enough to bleed.
I'll buy 2
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:52 AM
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In all honesty, I'd probably pay him that much just for the face punching, guy could make a living like that.
Maybe I oughta look into hurting myself in stupid ways on cam - I mean, if I'd pay for it, there'd have to be some small market. Shit, jackass made enough I'm sure, and those guys...pretty tame, eh?
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Old 09-28-2008, 12:21 AM
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"So you'll deny giving your film an audience? Sounds counter-productive. "

Why did I write this post? I don't mention my movie, or any others. I'm not denying, I'm looking for options.

"If the film is of any level of quality"

Okay. Here's the one rejection letter I've received from a "known" distributor.

Your film was amazing! Definitely one of the best films submitted to us this year. It really feels like it's a grindhouse film from the 80s.

They turned it down because it was shot 30p video.

"Festivals: I go to those because I know there is a screening process - a level of quality control that you cannot get from a blind download.

The way you choose the movies you see, is not the way I would, or ever have. FESTIVALS are a farce. Non-star films are chosen if they're friends with the hosts, and many of the others have some distributor or minor star in or behind them.

"If the film is of any level of quality, it will draw a distributer and an audience. If you choose to not have your film distributed then you only have yourself to blame for the fact that you can't get your film seen."

This is all true, but what does it have to do with this particular post? You say you've struggled in the business, the answers to this post should interest you. How do you know there aren't tons of people that DO and WILL buy digital downloads unless you ask? Asking questions is not a crime. It's not rude or detrimental to your health. You should be happy someone is interested in your opinion.

I personally thought that offering free copies of a movie with excellent reviews would garner a ton of entries, especially since all they had to do was send their name and age (the only reason I need the age is because the movie is not suited for anyone under 18). At this site alone there were 44 views of the post. Over 300 people saw the posts at different forums and in total I got 8 people to enter. How PATHETIC is that? I obviously thought it was me and my movie. But, then I asked many other sites that run contests, what did I do wrong. I found out the truth. NO ONE ENTERS CONTESTS. Did you know that? Because I didn't. Hell, I'm going to start entering contests. My chances of winning are pretty good. All eight entrants got copies of my movie. Which again, has received excellent reviews from everyone that has seen it. The people that have hated it, have found it too disturbing. Yeah, that's a bad thing in a horror movie.

"Coming to us directly makes your film seem weak. Is that really how you want to be perceived?"

This thread has NOTHING to do with any movie. It's to see if "horror" fans will buy digital downloads. That's it. You're all the Gods of horror, the know it all, the people who love anything to do with the genre. So, I asked three really simple questions, and just look at the responses. You should all be so proud of yourselves.

"You would do well to listen and not get reactionary when you get called on your self-promotional tactics. "

This thread is NOT self promotion, it's an inquiry. It's not a difficult or imposing inquiry. It doesn't have anything to do with getting your dick larger or harder or reducing your weight. But, since you brought it up; WHERE in this post am I self promoting? Don't go anywhere else, but read THIS post, what am I promoting?

Do you have a clue as to what you're talking about?

"Especially since you only seem to pop by to push your films and don't try to become a regular contributing member of the forum."

First off, I've only made one movie. WHY would I want to be a regular at this board? Are you people nice? Why don't you go through all the posts at this thread, and put yourself in the poster's position. You all seem pretty IMMATURE. But, if this thread doesn't convince you, go to REAL HORROR FANS, that's a joy. I've put links to that thread at real forums with intelligent people, who are constructive in their replies.

Phalanx: Your original post though semi rude at least answered my question. Your other posts just proved my point as to why anyone would want to be a regular at this board. So, so mature are you.

Please, please never see my movie, because you are DEFINITELY the type of people to ruin the surprises for people who haven't seen it.

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Old 09-28-2008, 02:21 AM
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Please, please never see my movie, because you are DEFINITELY the type of people to ruin the surprises for people who haven't seen it.
Awwwwww man, I really wanted to see your movie too.... not really.
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