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Old 01-10-2007, 06:30 PM
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Looks like a cross between spiderman and the alien :)
Its supposed to be. In the final design of Venom that I've seen he has the same costume as Spider-Man but with a bigger spider in the middle plus the mouth.


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From the way this film is shaping out, Venom is more than likely going to be the final evolution of the symbiote. Its in the first Alien, the Xenomorph started as a Facehugger then a Chest Burster, and finally the full adult. The full adult was like the final moster for the movie. Venom is going to come about in a similar manner I think.
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Old 01-10-2007, 06:48 PM
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Kind of...but it's more like it looks different on everyone dependant upon their emotional/mental state, and also reflects how they in fact want to present it.
You can look up some variations, the punisher once wore it in a "what if" and Mac Gargan (formerly the scorpion) who currently has it.
I mean yes...it was slime, then parker had it, then brock had it, at which point it got the scary look...but it was also reflective of Brocks anger, hatred, and well...kind've instability to begin with. Whether or not these were character traits that were dormant and always there in Brock, or bought on by what you will see happens between Parker and himself...assuming they carry over the correct storyline...is unsure, but basically at the time he gets the suit, he's very bitter, angry, and self loathing...the suit itself in a similar state after being rejected...they made for an angrier, crazier being. The suit itself did not evolve beyond anything that it was capable in the first place. Brock just flexed different muscles, so to speak.
The "suit" also tends to carry traits from it's former incarnations over as well...if you look at the original spiderman black suit, then the venom character, then venom as worn by the fortunato kid for a short amount of time, then the mac gargan version, and I suppose even the 2099 and punisher versions (even though they are non-canon) you can see how it's reflective of who's underneath, and what traits it's "absorbed".
As well as aesthetic traits, it also absorbs personality (hence the warped sense of "justice" that's been evident in all of the venom comics = parkers good guy bit + Eddies crazy bit) traits, and tends to use information gathered for it's own benefit, eg - knowledge of the spider-sense allows this suit to be immune to it.
I'm sure one day Brock will make a return to the suit...or likewise...he will if he doesn't want to die anyways, and it's something that seems like a lot of the fans would want.
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:33 PM
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Kind of...but it's more like it looks different on everyone dependant upon their emotional/mental state, and also reflects how they in fact want to present it.
You can look up some variations, the punisher once wore it in a "what if" and Mac Gargan (formerly the scorpion) who currently has it.
I mean yes...it was slime, then parker had it, then brock had it, at which point it got the scary look...but it was also reflective of Brocks anger, hatred, and well...kind've instability to begin with. Whether or not these were character traits that were dormant and always there in Brock, or bought on by what you will see happens between Parker and himself...assuming they carry over the correct storyline...is unsure, but basically at the time he gets the suit, he's very bitter, angry, and self loathing...the suit itself in a similar state after being rejected...they made for an angrier, crazier being. The suit itself did not evolve beyond anything that it was capable in the first place. Brock just flexed different muscles, so to speak.
The "suit" also tends to carry traits from it's former incarnations over as well...if you look at the original spiderman black suit, then the venom character, then venom as worn by the fortunato kid for a short amount of time, then the mac gargan version, and I suppose even the 2099 and punisher versions (even though they are non-canon) you can see how it's reflective of who's underneath, and what traits it's "absorbed".
As well as aesthetic traits, it also absorbs personality (hence the warped sense of "justice" that's been evident in all of the venom comics = parkers good guy bit + Eddies crazy bit) traits, and tends to use information gathered for it's own benefit, eg - knowledge of the spider-sense allows this suit to be immune to it.
I'm sure one day Brock will make a return to the suit...or likewise...he will if he doesn't want to die anyways, and it's something that seems like a lot of the fans would want.

I wasn't trying to say that in the comic book the symbiote was anything more. I'm saying in the sense of a movie and the way the general audience with no comic book background might see Venom was the final evolution of the symbiote. Or else as the visual resprentation of the evil dark side of both Brock and the symbiote. B/c the average movie goer is just going think its a costume that is suddenly alive and now it has a mouth with teeth, general audiences will see this as the visual "monster" that the movie may play the symbiote out to be.
One article I read said that Brock is Brock Jr. which may mean that they are going to follow the Ultimate Spidy storyline which would further justify why Topher is play Brock in the first place.
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:43 PM
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I know you weren't trying to say all that, I was just rambling man...I get what you mean about the average non-comic-reading moviegoers perceptions.
Yeah, the ultimate version wouldn't be bad...bring about the stuff with brock snr and parkers dad working together to make it (which is less "out there" of a storyline) as some kind've medical tech that went wrong, a former friendship between brock and parker I always thought was a cool addition to the ultimate books...
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:59 AM
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I know you weren't trying to say all that, I was just rambling man...I get what you mean about the average non-comic-reading moviegoers perceptions.
Yeah, the ultimate version wouldn't be bad...bring about the stuff with brock snr and parkers dad working together to make it (which is less "out there" of a storyline) as some kind've medical tech that went wrong, a former friendship between brock and parker I always thought was a cool addition to the ultimate books...
I'm fine for either storyline b/c I think that both ideas are "out there." I mean in the original story its an alien symbiote. In the Ultimate story its a cure for cancer with a mind of its own. Personally I think both ideas are just really "out there" but with the addition of FF #2 the idea of an alien symbiote is more plausible b/c if FF can have Galactus and the Surfer why can't Spidy have an alien in the mix? I mean originally they were supposed to film an ending to Spidy #2 that showed Jameson going to space and that would lead into the symbiote story.


Pictures of the Venom figure for Spider-Man 3

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Old 01-19-2007, 03:40 PM
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EXCL: Producer Grant Curtis on Spider-Man 3!
Source: Superhero Hype! January 19, 2007

Superhero Hype! recently caught up with Spider-Man 3 producer Grant Curtis to get an update on the highly-anticipated third film. With the footage shown at the Consumer Electronics Association (CES) in Las Vegas last week and the newly-launched official website now live, the hype for the movie is really kicking off while the production is working on completing the project.

Curtis told us that director Sam Raimi and team are spending several hours a day creating the special effects currently and that there are literally hundreds of people around the world working on the film.

One of the questions he gets asked most often, as do we, is whether or not there are four villains in the movie. Curtis said that is not really the case, as the movie involves mostly Sandman, New Goblin and Venom. The black suit is often referred to as a fourth villain, but it's more Spidey's struggle within himself, which is, of course, a very big part of the story as well.

If you were concerned three villains is also too many, Curtis said that they don't just throw a villain into a Spidey movie. He says every villain in the movie has a connection to Peter Parker's story, which remains the center of the franchise. From Harry's growing tension with Peter over the death of Harry's father, to Sandman being the real killer of Uncle Ben, and Venom's connection to Peter (you'll have to see the movie to find out what that is!), everything is told through Parker's story.

We couldn't resist asking if we can expect Spider-Man 4, and Curtis gave us a very honest answer. He says that all the people involved with Spider-Man 3 are working really hard towards the May 4 release date and haven't had a chance to think about a fourth film. In fact, on each of the Spidey movies, they have really put all of their effort into the project at hand and haven't thought beyond that. We would say that's a pretty big contributing factor to why the movies are so great!

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Old 01-20-2007, 03:15 PM
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I never cared much about spiderman. I loved the 1st movie, but the second was to dramatic for my taste. I really liked the razor-choppers goblin had in SM1
those were based on the razor bats he had in the comics.....the movie looks terrific...if you all know eddie thought he captured the sin eater but spiderman caught the real one....they will probably have eddie chase spidey into the bell tower and when he uses the noise to remove it,the symbiote will cover brock....i'm guessing they would have venom and the lizard in sm4
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:28 AM
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those were based on the razor bats he had in the comics.....the movie looks terrific...if you all know eddie thought he captured the sin eater but spiderman caught the real one....they will probably have eddie chase spidey into the bell tower and when he uses the noise to remove it,the symbiote will cover brock....i'm guessing they would have venom and the lizard in sm4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg6U-EJKhYw

In the comic Brock goes to the church to pray b/c he is about to commit suicde. In trailer Brock is in the church praying, but for a different reason, in the trailer he says that he wants Parker to die, I beleive the line is "I want you (God) to kill Parker." Check youtube for this clip it was not in the offical theatrical trailer/teaser.
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Old 01-25-2007, 05:14 PM
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Pics of the toys.


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Old 02-09-2007, 12:30 PM
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Doom, Goblin and Venom Production Art
Source:Caliph February 8, 2007

JoBlo has posted new production art of Dr. Doom from Fox's Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, as well as New Goblin and Venom from Spider-Man 3. You can check out the pics at the link above.

Spidey 3 hits theaters first on May 4 and the "Fantastic Four" sequel comes to theaters on June 15.


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