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Old 11-10-2006, 07:46 AM
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Boys and Girls

I saw something on TV the other day that almost made me lose my mind.

But first - a small sociology discussion.

Shortly after we are born the programming begins.
Boys are dressed in blue - girls in pink.
Then we shove a toy truck in a boys hand - and a baby doll in the girls.
The boy begins his programming with all things mechanical, noisy, rough and tumble..
the girls begin the nuturing program.

in school boys are pushed towards sports, the girls learn how to cook and sew.

It was/is like this for years and years. that hunter/gatherer mentality is so ingrained in our genetic makeup we are barely beginning to challenge it now after all this time.

But there has been some progress made - baby steps ... slow but sure.

more girls are participating in team sports these days - this is a huge positive deal.

I'm sure sports origionated as a way to hone physical (hunting) skills, then war training .. but it evolved into something wonderful.
The kids that participate in team sports learn skills they will use the rest of their lives - in family situations and in work.
(if you think this is bullshit you should see the difference between a mixed sex work environment and a women only work environment. Most (from my and my wifes experiences) women dont get along in numbers - most dont understand the concept of teamwork because they never learned it growing up.

I'm basing a lot of this on womens comments so i'm not a raging sexist here.
Women were raised/trained/programmed with other positive traits but usually teamwork wasnt one of them.

this is changing - for the better.


but the other day - and the thing that got me thinking about this whole rant is :

i saw an AD for a new board game.

it simulates a day of shopping at the mall .. little girls get cash and credit cards and try to spend all their money.

what the fuck, is it or is it not 2006 ?
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:10 AM
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I saw something on TV the other day that almost made me lose my mind.

But first - a small sociology discussion.

Shortly after we are born the programming begins.
Boys are dressed in blue - girls in pink.
Then we shove a toy truck in a boys hand - and a baby doll in the girls.
The boy begins his programming with all things mechanical, noisy, rough and tumble..
the girls begin the nuturing program.

in school boys are pushed towards sports, the girls learn how to cook and sew.

It was/is like this for years and years. that hunter/gatherer mentality is so ingrained in our genetic makeup we are barely beginning to challenge it now after all this time.

But there has been some progress made - baby steps ... slow but sure.

more girls are participating in team sports these days - this is a huge positive deal.
And some "men" are folding laundry.



As far as women in the work place, i'm gonna have to agree. I see it at my job where its all woman in the office and my wife tells me her place is brutal.Much backstabbing.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:11 AM
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i saw an AD for a new board game.

it simulates a day of shopping at the mall .. little girls get cash and credit cards and try to spend all their money.
Ugh...I utterly HATE shopping...What a lame game concept...

I don't fit most of the traditional gender roles...Neither do most of the people I know...As a matter of fact, when one of the kids asks questions about tools, and their use (most specifically power tools), Dustin refers them to me...That's just one example of many...


OH...And I fucking HATE the color pink...
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:13 AM
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OH...And I fucking HATE the color pink...

I know. You prefer mauve.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:14 AM
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Ugh...I utterly HATE shopping...What a lame game concept...

I don't fit most of the traditional gender roles...Neither do most of the people I know...As a matter of fact, when one of the kids asks questions about tools, and their use (most specifically power tools), Dustin refers them to me...That's just one example of many...
there are always exceptions ...

my wife knows more about hockey than me .. but she was raised traditionally ..
there will always be some people to break the mold - but they are the exceptions not the rule.

there are entire cultures who's tradition still insist that their women are there to make babies and do what they're told.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:16 AM
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Interesting thread.

I think that same thing everytime I see an AD for 'Girls Gone Wild'.
All the progress our mothers tried to make in the 60's all gone to hell in an episode of 'America's TOP fricking MODEL'.:rolleyes:

I have also seen this docu on Discovery channel about a group of kids raised from birth to about 5 with no gender influence (or as much as possible ,i.e. Toys, TV, etc)
And they had the boys trying to start Battles with non-gender dolls and certain non-voilent toys as weapons.


We have along way to go and I say if the females will come together ,we can do alot good in the world.
But unfortuntley there will be a man and two females on Jerry Springer next week to put us back years of hard progress.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:17 AM
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As far as women in the work place, i'm gonna have to agree. I see it at my job where its all woman in the office and my wife tells me her place is brutal.Much backstabbing.

yeah .. guys will pretty much confront each other and deal with the issue.

the women in these situations tend to pick sides and wage these weird silent wars..

one of the instances where men actually do have it right.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:18 AM
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In our house its 50/50, responsibilities dont have anythign to do with gender. I work and Bree stays home, buthtta has everythign to do with me being older and having an established carreer when we met, and she was still in college.

I cook. i do the dishes.
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:20 AM
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yeah .. guys will pretty much confront each other and deal with the issue.

the women in these situations tend to pick sides and wage these weird silent wars..

one of the instances where men actually do have it right.
My wife is a very "Confront the situation NOW" type person. Not very many peopel like it, but I do :)
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:21 AM
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buthtta has everythign
What language you speaking these days Vod?
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