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View Poll Results: What is your stance on abortion?
Completely for it - knowledgeable 7 21.88%
Abortion ok, but not in case of partial birth - knowledgeable 7 21.88%
Completey against it - knowledgeable 15 46.88%
Completely for it - not knowledgeable 0 0%
Abortion ok, but not in case of partial birth - not knowledgeable 3 9.38%
Completely against it - not knowledgeable 0 0%
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Old 02-14-2004, 12:19 AM
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Old 02-14-2004, 12:20 AM
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Good, I can sleep now, now that I know I'm wrong, and have been this entire time.
Thanks, buddy. For a second there I thought I would have to put on another pot of coffee...

I'm hittin' the hay.
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Old 02-14-2004, 04:00 AM
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BTW, I find it odd that every Pro-Life person I know is for the death penalty

Let me see if I can explain this one for you, so that you won't find it so "odd"...

There is a slight difference between killing an innocent, unborn baby, and killing a murderer:rolleyes:
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Old 02-14-2004, 04:35 AM
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I still believe that it's not a human until it has the physical characteristics of a human, ie: Lungs, Spinal chord, all that.

So, now I'm wondering just exactly what it was that I was carrying in my womb when I was pregnant...Hmmm...Was it a rabbit maybe?...No...wait...You said "not a mammal"...Okay, so maybe it was a fish...but, no backbone...a slug?...Oh well, whatever it WAS, I sure am glad that it happened to TURN INTO a human being...:rolleyes:

BTW...I was just assuming that it was a human being because animals generally tend to reproduce whatever they happen to be...At least that's been my experience...I also think that people WANT to believe that it isn't a baby, because that makes it much easier to accept the thought of killing it

Also...For all the things you've mentioned " Lungs, Spinal chord, all that"...You left out the fact that "it" has a beating heart
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Old 02-14-2004, 05:23 AM
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Holy shit!!!

This thread is really hot. I can't decide whether to really give my feelings on the topic. ...I will, though...

Three years ago I had a miscarriage. It was the worst experience of my life. I was in the first trimester of my pregnancy. I can honestly say that it was a baby inside me. It was alive, and I loved it. (I use the pronoun "it" because at such a young age, the sex organs aren't fully developed). These were just maternal feelings inside of me. Valid? For me they were. For other people...it wasn't.

I say, that the fetus is alive. However, I can't make that call for everyone.
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Old 02-14-2004, 05:28 AM
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"However, I can't make that call for everyone."
Finally, someone who realises that arguing the point isn't gonne get anywhere.
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Old 02-14-2004, 07:24 AM
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So, now I'm wondering just exactly what it was that I was carrying in my womb when I was pregnant...Hmmm...Was it a rabbit maybe?...No...wait...You said "not a mammal"...Okay, so maybe it was a fish...but, no backbone...a slug?...Oh well, whatever it WAS, I sure am glad that it happened to TURN INTO a human being...:rolleyes:

BTW...I was just assuming that it was a human being because animals generally tend to reproduce whatever they happen to be...At least that's been my experience...I also think that people WANT to believe that it isn't a baby, because that makes it much easier to accept the thought of killing it

Also...For all the things you've mentioned " Lungs, Spinal chord, all that"...You left out the fact that "it" has a beating heart
Hey, no need for all that just because I like to base my opinions on facts.
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Old 02-14-2004, 07:26 AM
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Let me see if I can explain this one for you, so that you won't find it so "odd"...

There is a slight difference between killing an innocent, unborn baby, and killing a murderer:rolleyes:
Hey, killing is killing. If you're so big on life then you shouldn't want to kill anything.
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Old 02-14-2004, 07:32 AM
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Hey, killing is killing. If you're so big on life then you shouldn't want to kill anything.

So then...Killing a cockroach would be the same as killing a person?...Hmmm...maybe SOME people...Okay, you just might have a point there, Sam
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Old 02-14-2004, 07:33 AM
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If you kill anything, you're not pro-life.
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