Abortion - actual thread

[Sam The Egg]

Okay, let's let the fetus decide whether or not it gets aborted or not. I mean, since the 'But what about the BABY'S choice' is TOTALLY valid and a really great argument, surely the fetus is capable of MAKING a choice, right?

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
I would die myself, before I would kill my child...


I read this somewhere once...Allow me to share it with you...


"An abortion does not make a woman 'unpregnant'...It makes her the mother of a dead baby"

I agree with that but as a man, I dont know what it is like to have a child or destroy one from inside my body. Therefore I feel that a man should have no say in what goes on in a womans body. Although myself I think abortion is wrong for me I cannot make a decision for the woman. I have always seen it as a life but it is not my life to take. It really is sad that some people use it as birth control, I just think its wrong.

[Sam The Egg]

"An abortion does not make a woman 'unpregnant'...It makes her the mother of a dead baby"

Which in turn makes her unpregnant. It's not like she's still pregnant. I mean, I was under the impression that after you give birth you're no longer pregnant. But I'm a man, what do I know?

[VampRocker]

I hate how people say it's the "woman's choice." Don't you think the unborn human life has a choice, too?

I simply cannot understand how you can justify murdering a human life, just because it hasn't left it's mothers womb...

Abortionists are murderers, plain and simple. And isn't that ironic? How this is a "horror message board?"

[Sam The Egg]

It's not a human the whole time, though

[VampRocker]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
It's not a human the whole time, though

Whoops, sorry. My mistake. Thank you, God.:rolleyes:

[Sam The Egg]

*sigh* It's just the same as you saying (or implying) that it IS human the whole time. At least there's something to back up that it's not human the entire time.

[VampRocker]

Originally posted by Sam The Egg
*sigh* It's just the same as you saying (or implying) that it IS human the whole time. At least there's something to back up that it's not human the entire time.

Says who? Who can ACTUALLY determine whether or not it's a human life? Seriously, just think about that.

After you're done, please, tell me, what are the secrets of the universe? Then, of course, I'd like to know the formulaic equation to creating human life. Thanks!

[fluffho]

my neighbor was killed a week or so ago

she had a brain aneurism, underwent surgery.

2 weeks minimum waiting, till they try to revive her

2 days short of the 2 ewek mark she has a heart attack and another brain aneurism, much more severe than the first

they pulled the plug.. why? her brain was dead

you are not alive without a brain.. and a bunch of things develop BEFORE the brain ever does. which is why many people go along with first trimester abortions

[Sam The Egg]

Ok, let's assume that humans are mammals for a moment.

The characteristics of mammals include the following:

Characteristics of Mammals
Mammals have backbones.
Mammals are warm-blooded.
Mammals breathe with lungs.
Mammal babies are born live.
Mammals have fur or hair.
Mammals nurse their young.

I've bolded the two important ones. Now, according to this site,

six weeks
the sex organs develop
the embryo now has a full skeletal system

I'm assuming that the skeletal system includes the backbone, since it's not mentioned anywhere before it. Also,

eight weeks

the fetus (Latin for 'little one')is now two inches long
every organ is now in place
the stomach produces digestive juices
the baby's finger and footprints are clearly visible
the child responds to painful stimuli
the infant can make a fist
the kidneys begin to function

in 8 weeks the organs are in place. Lungs aren't mentioned before this, so let's assume that the lungs are included with the organs. That's 6 weeks until the backbone is developed and 8 weeks until the lungs are in place. 2 whole months before you could even say it's a mammal.