The Presedntial Election 2008 Thread

[The Flayed One]

Originally posted by bwind22
Well, I almost totally agree with you. Except that we, the people, don't squash 3rd party hopes. The Democrats & Republicans are the ones that squash any hopes of ever seeing a viable 3rd party candidate, let alone a 4th, 5th or 6th, because as much as they dislike each other, they aren't stupid. They realize that more parties means less control for them (both parties, collectively & individually).

Just listen to Ralph Nader talk about it some time. He knows first hand how good of a job they can do at squashing a 3rd party candidates efforts.

The only way we'll ever see a third party as a viable option will be if it's someone rich enough to fund their own campaign (like Ross Perot did) because none of the other parties are able to fundraise enough money to even get television ads, let alone any sort of national attention.

I couldn't have stated it better. Third party candidated hardly ever get invited to debates. As a matter of fact, I don't think any of them ever do. The only reason we got to see Perot at a debate is as you said: he had enough money to do it by himself.

Interesting to note: the only third party candidate to ever win a state was Teddy Roosevelt (who had already been president) when he ran with the Bull-Moose party against WH Taft. All it really did was split the Republican vote and handed the election to Woodrow Wilson.

I tend to lean more to the left, but I disagree with too much from both sides to really have an affiliation. If it is Bush vs. Clinton in 2008, that's probably the only scenario I won't register to vote for. That will make three elections in a row that I haven't been willing to vote for the lesser of two evils.

[scaryminda15]

not to change the subject but i think ill make a great president.:D

[noctuary]

When you cast your vote in 2008, you have to ask yourself the following, very important question:

"Which multi-billionaire better represents MY interests?"

[The STE]

presidential elections are futile, as they have no baring on my standing as Emperor of the United States

[AmericanManiac]

Originally posted by Angelakillsluts
Jeb Bush becomes president I will move aswell. Rudy Giuliani would be nice, everyone loves him and he actually seems pretty sane. :D

I totally agree I think he would do a great job, he handled 9.11 very well. I would love to see him run for president.

Also Gore has a new film out about global warming, he has brought up some intresting facts that we should work on. If anyone is intrested you can check it out on cnn.com under Anderson Cooper 360.

[Miss Olivia]

My views are:
I think marijuana should be legalized and more money spent on treatment for NON-VIOLENT drug offenders, whatever they're on...
I think abortion should be legal but more controlled...I understand that people make mistakes and there are a lot of unwanted kids in the world, but at the same time I think that women who use abortion as a form of birth control should have it mandatorily sewed shut...
I think gay marriage should be legalized, if they love each other and aren't hurting anyone, then what's the big frickin deal?
I think healthcare is a fermenting cesspool where lives are overrruled in favor of profit...
And last but not least, I think all american citizens should be allotted two free government issued tickets to disneyland upon completion of high school.....Hey....makes more sense than some of the crap taxpayers dollars are spent on....5,000 toilet seats, anyone?
Anyway, there's my two measly cents. Spend or ignore as is your god-given right:)

[Miss Olivia]

And the 5,000 above was in reference to dollars not numbers...I don't think those poor government workers should have to perch on bare porcelain or even worse, fall in....

[tonemeister]

Originally posted by Miss Olivia
My views are:
I think marijuana should be legalized and more money spent on treatment for NON-VIOLENT drug offenders, whatever they're on...
I think abortion should be legal but more controlled...I understand that people make mistakes and there are a lot of unwanted kids in the world, but at the same time I think that women who use abortion as a form of birth control should have it mandatorily sewed shut...
I think gay marriage should be legalized, if they love each other and aren't hurting anyone, then what's the big frickin deal?
I think healthcare is a fermenting cesspool where lives are overrruled in favor of profit...
And last but not least, I think all american citizens should be allotted two free government issued tickets to disneyland upon completion of high school.....Hey....makes more sense than some of the crap taxpayers dollars are spent on....5,000 toilet seats, anyone?
Anyway, there's my two measly cents. Spend or ignore as is your god-given right:)

well said :)

[VampiricClown]

Originally posted by bwind22
Yeah, the electoral college method of voting is FUCKED! I live in a state that is always, always, always democratic. Even when when Reagan won in his landslide victory, Minnesota was the ONLY state to vote democratic, so yeah, if I were to vote republican, it's a total waste of time.

The entire system needs a major overhaul.

What they should do is break it down proportionately. Say a state has 10 EC votes and 60% of the state votes democrat and 40% votes republican. 6 of those EC votes should go to the democrat, 4 to the republican. This all or nothing system we are currently using is totally stupid.

Something that we finally agree on. Hard to believe it was with presidential stuff though.

This is why I will not vote. The votes of the people do not count. It's whoever the electorial college chooses and who the government wants. We're just pawns...

[Haunted]

I'm liberal, but I have a brain. There are things worth fighting for, and there are issues that are dumb. I happen to like Hillary Clinton, always have. She's a tough broad... maybe she doesn't always think first, but she's a tough broad and smart too.

I like John McCain because he's a conservative with a brain. He fights for issues worth fighting for, and not for the ones that are dumb. I've always liked John McCain. If he were to run against a Democrat who happened to be an idiot like Howard Dean, I'd vote for McCain. Hands down.

I live in NC, and I can say that you really don't have anything to fear from Mike Easley, because nobody in their right mind would put him on the ticket. He's a retard with a capital R. Nobody in NC likes him very much and even the Democrats are still trying to figure out who voted for him.

Al Gore has already stated that he has no interest what so ever in running for President again. His interest is in politicking for the environment, which I do happen to admire. That should be an important stand on either party's ticket, because the clock is ticking for this planet's tolerance of human beings. The 13th hour draweth nigh, and I'm not being radical.

I will go see Gore's documentary.