Seven Doors of Death

[urgeok]

Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
There's a lot of talk about seeking meaning and consistency in Fulci's films... but where does it stop?

If one scene is explained away and grudgingly accepted by detractors, they will inevitably pick fault with another.

It is a troublesome approach to indulging in 1970's/80's exploitation - if you are likely to praise, say, The Last House on the Left or I Spit on Your Grave for their "gritty realism", but are unable to accept The Beyond's world of fantastic scenarios and stretched logic then perhaps a really good drama with nasty bits is all you're after.

I think there are essentially two camps - those who don't like Fulci's refusal (or inability) to pander to his audience's logical expectations, and those who see this trait as a virtue and put it all down to wonderful over enthusiasm.

what are the audiences logical expectations ?
i have over 3 dozen films in the genre (italian splatter horror) and my only expectation is to be entertained.
I'm not a stickler for rules, or a linear story, or an involved plot, or coherency even - if i find the visuals interesting ..
again .. i had heard and read such hype about this film .. i was gung-ho to see it, warts and all .. i just didnt expect it to be so uneven and amateurish in its construction.
I simply sense no atmosphere of any kind.

even the 'shock scenes' were done in uninteresting ways.
Maybe if I'd seen this before a lot of other horror films I might think it was a lot cooler.
I'll watch it again .. i'm interested in hearing the commentary.

[EXTR3MIST]

You can't narrow it down to two camps. I'm fully willing to accept this, but only if it's done well. In The Beyond it wasn't.

Essentially, you can - I'm willing to have a shot at least.

The Beyond may be easy to pick fault with, but its minority of fans will always come out fighting from the Fulci corner.

Probably nobody can claim to fully understand exploitation like this, but the charm present in these films far overrides the lapses in logic and makes the suspension of disbelief all the easier.

For some, anyway.

[EXTR3MIST]

what are the audiences logical expectations ?

That, say, there must be some backstory to a load of spiders suddenly appearing to take chunks out of a strangely paralysed man.

Or why people suddenly go blind and take on wierd eyes.

[urgeok]

Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
That, say, there must be some backstory to a load of spiders suddenly appearing to take chunks out of a strangely paralysed man.

Or why people suddenly go blind and take on wierd eyes.

oh hell i didnt care about that ... its not exactly the only time the eye thing has been done. (as a sign of possession)
pretty commonplace actually

i did find the fake spiders distracting ...

that wasnt my problem with the film though ..

[The STE]

like I said, a movie can get away with anything if you do it right. The Beyond doesn't

[EXTR3MIST]

All those The Beyond fans take one step forward...!

Where the FUCK are YOU going, STE/urgeok??!!!

[The STE]

Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
All those The Beyond fans take one step forward...!

Where the FUCK are YOU going, STE/urgeok??!!!

I'm going to Sonic to get a double cheeseburger and some popcorn chicken. You want anything?

[urgeok]

Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
All those The Beyond fans take one step forward...!

Where the FUCK are YOU going, STE/urgeok??!!!

heh :)

[EXTR3MIST]

I'm going to Sonic to get a double cheeseburger and some popcorn chicken. You want anything?

Is there anything that spikey-ass hog CAN'T do?

I'll pass - it's 5:30pm and I'm away to get very, very drunk.

[The STE]

Originally posted by EXTR3MIST
Is there anything that spikey-ass hog CAN'T do?

I'll pass - it's 5:30pm and I'm away to get very, very drunk.

I take it they don't have any Sonics over there...