Horror in movies and video games

guns kill people in the same way knives of bombs do... to suggest video games kill people exclusivley is insane

stoping children playing games amongst themselves is a bit too politicaly correct for my taste...but its not my call...

[Kemal]

The so-called "first person shooter" games are basically off-the-shelf combat simulators. There was once some interest by the military in using these games, including Doom. I don't know how far they took it, but if they're using these kinds of games today, I would imagine they'd program their own.

While games are good at imparting some hand-eye coordination, problem-solving skills and team tactics, they can't teach you to shoot. That's a different set of motor skills.

And I don't think that violent games encourage actual violence. Millions of people enjoy violent games not to mention violent movies, violent books, etc. and lead perfectly normal lives.

thank you! thats the point im trying to elicit from people... you can learn all about guns, god knows i do... but you have to be predispososed to kill...Doom doesnt give you blind rage.

by the way...the army uses doom and others like it...the aliens somehow desensitise the men

you said tactics cant be taught by a game, i cant agree with this- medal of honor, full spectrm warrior, socom, and MGS all do this...

[urgeok]

i think you misread .. he said you can learn those things from the games to some extent.

just not the actual shooting to which i agree ... picking up a heavy gun, dealing with recoil .. aiming ..

a lot different than rolling a mouse around .. or even a plastic gun wired to a game.

[Death By Jell-O]

I'll speak on behalf of console games, because I don't play computer games....

Wow, ignorance amazes me sometimes........Why come here and ask for opinions, but by your own admission aren't looking for someone's opinion, you're trying to illicit a point....That's irrelevant though....

Games do not teach people to be stone cold killers.....I personally play SOCOM quite a bit, and while it is somewhat strategic, it in no way can teach you actual military tactics....This doesn't make me want to go out and kill anyone......

Games cannot aid in hand-eye coordination with a gun because there's a big difference in aiming and shooting a rifle, rather than using your thumbs to move a cursor to simulate aiming a rifle or hand gun.......They are in no way similar......Even with a hand held shooting device, in now way does sitting 6 feet from a TV screen improve your marksmanship.....Ever hear of anyone going on a "duck hunt" rampage after playing their NES? Didn't think so.....

As for your comment on the Columbine shootings, that's rediculous...That was one person......It's not as if a whole school full of Doom players all went on a rampage shooting everything in sight with a rocket launcher.........As for the kid shooting 8 times and managing 8 hits while cops only manage half of that........It's easy to hit 8 people out of however many HUNDREDS there were in that room.......You could close your eyes and fire into a crowded room and hit 8 out of 8..........That point holds no weight with me at all.......

And as for being able to "learn about guns" from a video game....Impossible....In real life the guns portrayed in video games are either fictional, or just a general representation of the real thing......

Ok I'm rambling with really no point other than Video games cannot desensitize people....Movies? Maybe, but only to a point.....The truth is, you can turn on the news and see death, violence, rape, etc. etc....Same in movies and TV shows.......But if you were to walk down the street and see someone in front of you lose the back of their skull to a gunshot, you're not gonna be desensitized to that.......They are only desensitized to it to the extent that they are safe at home, in the safety of their living room.......Look at the soldiers that came back from Vietnam....Think they got desensitized to death and violence while shooting at people, and having to kill women and small children to save their own lives while fighting in a war? Don't think so.......How many ended up with severe emotional baggage? Lots......Probably most of them....

So even if you play every violent game out there, and watch every violent movie you can, it's not going to make you a killer...it's not gonna hone in that killer instinct......

[urgeok]

well, thats pretty much what the rest of us has been saying ...

[Death By Jell-O]

I know....I just thought I'd consolidate it all, add my own wording, and have the definitive answer........For those that don't read everything.......:rolleyes:

[urgeok]

i think the last thing to say would be that if your kid is a little degenterate misfit unsocialble wierdo that likes to torture small animals and write fan letters to charles manson ...

you might not want to let him/her play violent video games.

[Death By Jell-O]

So in the end, it all comes down to Parenting.......

THE END

[urgeok]

undeniably - yes