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urgeok 05-12-2005 11:58 AM

i do not believe there is a god.

but i know the bible .. and they have an answer for every question raised so far. I dont believe them - i think the bible is a very clever and carefully written instruction manual which takes into consideration almost everything - as to have a counter arguement for everything.

eg. if heaven is better why dont i kill myself now ? because suicide is a sin.

i cant see god ... faith is the cornerstone of belief.

and so on ..


I believe we are here due to a natural accident. Does that mean there is no value in life .. i dont think so but anyone who thinks that obviously has nothing to offer .. so .. adios..

we have developed into a series of communities. We are a mess of a race but every now and then there is a glimmer of hope.
We are in a race right now - to grow into a race of mature people vs destroying the planet. My bet is that we are going to destroy the planet ... but i have a very strong survivor instinct - paired with the desire to do and see and experience as much as i can before i die ..and hopefully pave the way for my kid to do and see and experience even more than i did after i'm gone.

religion exists/existed for a few reasons.

1) to explain the unexplainable
2) to enforce civilized law
3) to educate
4) to control people
5) to give us something to believe in when times get tough - something to believe in so that people will have continuance after death.

if you need these things .. whatever .. i dont.

as ai said somewhere here a few times before .. i believe in enjoying life to the fullest without infringing on anyone elses enjoyment ..(as long as their enjoyment doesnt consist of hurting others)

thats pretty much it in a big assed nutshel

urgeok 05-12-2005 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Aids seemed an acceptable killer, because it killed those stupid enough to contract the virus.


you are a complete idiot.
no one with any shred of intelligence could ever have put that into print.

and i dont give a shit if you value my opinion or contradict yourself again later.

just stupid ignorant child

Vodstok 05-12-2005 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urgeok
i do not believe there is a god.

but i know the bible .. and they have an answer for every question raised so far. I dont believe them - i think the bible is a very clever and carefully written instruction manual which takes into consideration almost everything - as to have a counter arguement for everything.

eg. if heaven is better why dont i kill myself now ? because suicide is a sin.

i cant see god ... faith is the cornerstone of belief.

and so on ..


I believe we are here due to a natural accident. Does that mean there is no value in life .. i dont think so but anyone who thinks that obviously has nothing to offer .. so .. adios..

we have developed into a series of communities. We are a mess of a race but every now and then there is a glimmer of hope.
We are in a race right now - to grow into a race of mature people vs destroying the planet. My bet is that we are going to destroy the planet ... but i have a very strong survivor instinct - paired with the desire to do and see and experience as much as i can before i die ..and hopefully pave the way for my kid to do and see and experience even more than i did after i'm gone.

religion exists/existed for a few reasons.

1) to explain the unexplainable
2) to enforce civilized law
3) to educate
4) to control people
5) to give us something to believe in when times get tough - something to believe in so that people will have continuance after death.

if you need these things .. whatever .. i dont.

as ai said somewhere here a few times before .. i believe in enjoying life to the fullest without infringing on anyone elses enjoyment ..(as long as their enjoyment doesnt consist of hurting others)

thats pretty much it in a big assed nutshel

:D

Vodstok 05-12-2005 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urgeok
you are a complete idiot.
no one with any shred of intelligence could ever have put that into print.

and i dont give a shit if you value my opinion or contradict yourself again later.

just stupid ignorant child

Hmmm... im reminded of a conversation we once all had about the limitations of freedom of speech....


Yes, sometimes it IS appropriate....

urgeok 05-12-2005 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vodstok
:D
he looks like he's saying :

'thatsa nicea pizza-pie !'

urgeok 05-12-2005 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vodstok
Hmmm... im reminded of a conversation we once all had about the limitations of freedom of speech....


Yes, sometimes it IS appropriate....

i equate this with giving a drunk an armoured tank to drive home in.

Vodstok 05-12-2005 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urgeok
he looks like he's saying :

'thatsa nicea pizza-pie !'

No he was saying "I have this much left to live"

Or, "My opinion means this much"

Nope, didnt care for the guy. maybe the new one will not let his subordinates look away when one o fthem is fucking kids.

Vodstok 05-12-2005 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urgeok
i equate this with giving a drunk an armoured tank to drive home in.
LOL!


"If brains were dynamite, he wouldnt have enough to blow his nose."

or her. I dont care.

barbra 05-12-2005 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vodstok
No he was saying "I have this much left to live"

Or, "My opinion means this much"

Nope, didnt care for the guy. maybe the new one will not let his subordinates look away when one o fthem is fucking kids.

thats the trouble with being a repersinitve I suppose, then again those catholics don't really take action on much,

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by urgeok
you are a complete idiot.
no one with any shred of intelligence could ever have put that into print.

and i dont give a shit if you value my opinion or contradict yourself again later.

just stupid ignorant child

Isn't that it, though? I think having children's about the same thing. The only reason any of us are here is because two people thought themselves decent enough to raise a child.

Aids is a product of stupidity, right? Ignorance, at least.


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