Isn't it just a rehash of basically the same plotline, with different kills each time?

4 looked totally repetitive. I d say its beyond the saturation point.

sure it is ... its basically Friday the 13th for the 2000's

a slight lean to the grindhouse sensibility - but basically the same thing :

repetition, comfortable familiarity ... and young fans happy to support a new franchise.

Yep, complete with cheers for each kill.

They keep trying to "twist" things but regardless of your feelings on the storyline at least it's a hard R horror flick raking in cash still. :)

True.

Doesn't mean I d like it. I thought the first one was overdone, and the rest followed suit. It started off pretty interestingly, but 2 and 3 were real eyerollers.

I d rather watch Tim Burton snap off heads in Sleepy Hollow.

Based on a book, yes, but awesome movie...also, doesn't have Sleepy Hollow 2, 3, 4 etc. etc. after it too. ;)

^ very well-said, _v_.

For sure but I'm not touting the merits of any particular movie or series here. Saw could have been much worse but if it made a ton of cash and stayed a hard R it still would serve as a beacon of hope to those who like their horror R (or worse). Personally I wouldn't care if rated R horror was released less and less to the theaters as a lot of the films I enjoy really didn't get a proper mainstream theater release anyway. I do think that dismissing any horror film simply because of the rating is short sighted and ignorant.

absolutely.

nothing should be pre-judged.

Totally agree.

Look what happened to Grindhouse at the BO. Doesn't deter it from my Top 10 post-2000 one bit.

The one thing which makes PG 13 sell is the pre- and post- teen audience. They are the target groups. And studios are smart about knowing EXACTLY where to rake the moolah in from.

A movie doesn't fare by its quality anymore. It's just a dish now - the more attractive the dish, the more chances it has of getting lapped up.

pg-13 is a subtle way of knowing accessibility over content. there are exceptions where the plot can overshadow and chill. there are the classics like i noted before. hell, you can even be surprised from time to time with a good horror flick, like some of you mentioned that didn't even pop in my mind.

rated r still says horror to me.