I'm SO glad you said this! Because even though I am well aware that this response has nothing to do with me,it's something I have been wondering about for some time.
I got several PM's about cheeba calling me a cunt and how mean that was etc etc...but no one said a thing in the threads about it, so actually I now know what people really think of me here.
Thanks Stubborn.:)
I also realize how if someone is not liked by the higher ups here-how it's perfectly acceptable for them to be called a Cunt,even though the banning rules say otherwise about it.

Dunno what's going on, but, why would people not like you? I think you're awesome. *motivational thumbs up*

Nova, you are one of the few people that I would ever call a cunt. I think you're purdy cool.:)

Stubborn, preach it, sister!!:)

Trish, put your daughter first, and do what you gotta do, babe.

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That's disrespectful to anybody with Alzheimer's. I've had alchoalism effect friends and family and it's an addiction. Are you saying heroin addicts have a disease? Are you saying smokers have a disease? I've seen a few people work through their addiction and quit drinking completely... it's not that easy if you have Alzheimer's.

Maybe he was refering to me I dont know.

I wasnt pouncing on her. Sometimes people in abusive relationships need someone to slap them in the face so they can see what the world that they are in.

Trippin' of all people I would expect you to know that. You have had friends in abusive relationships.

IMO the best thing for an alcoholic is let them hit rock bottom without dragging you down with them. If he knows that he can always use her as a crutch then why is he ever going to change???

I said that I wish her and her daughter the best and I was speaking as a former child that had an abusive alcoholic stepfather. I saw all the mistakes that my mother made and the fact that she made excuses for that behavior because frankly, she was being selfish. "I dont want to be alone. no one will want me, he is the love of my life " that kind of shit. I have been there done that and have seen it time and time again with my own family and friends.

YOu can call alcoholism a sickness, addiction or whatever you like, someone makes the choice to take the drink its not forced on you.

I am sure that she can do much better than someone like that. She may not think so but I believe she can.

And lets try and have a civil debate instead of resorting to childish name calling and insults.

Its not a debate..
t was never meant to be a debate..
It was a response..theres a big difference. .
Em hungry...anybody got a spare taco ??

Nova..?? a cunt..??
cunts are useful..just ask dr phil :D

Not jumping down your case or anything, I know all of you are just going by what you've read...and the case may seem that her husband is an "alcoholic DICKHEAD, ASSHOLE, PRICK, SON OF A BITCH", but he really isn't. I'm very good friends with Trish and her husband. Fuck, I can't even say that in the past I haven't got shit faced drunk with him SEVERAL times, and that hasn't helped his situation at all. But I know her husband is a great person and loves Trish and his kids more than anything in this world. But he does have a problem, and it IS a disease, which he needs help with. I also know that if she leaves him for good, his life will never get any better. I've seen him sober more since they've been married than I ever have before...and that may not be saying a lot, but it IS saying a lot at the same time. He needs his loved ones to get better, and becoming sober after abusing like he has is no easy task. Yes, his actions lately have not been good, I can't say I'm too happy with his actions at this moment....but that does not make him any of those above mentioned things.

Trish, you and Adam are my best friends and I love you both very much...I'll always be there for either of you, anytime, no matter where I am, ok? And sorry I haven't been able to talk to you in the mornings, I'll try and wake up a lil early tomorrow so we can do that. I miss ya girly. Chin up.

Just because he needs help it doesn't mean it's a disease. I understand that it's a horrible thing and most people can't just "get over it" by themselves but it's self inflicted. I'm not trying to be unsympathic and I really hope this guy gets help because even the best of people can be stricken including a few who were close to me. Anyway...

I know it seems trite to debate this type of thing but I think calling it a disease is disrespectful to people with a disease that can't be helped. If you have Alzheimer's you can't just go to a support group or get help from those who love you and get better. I guess it was the Alzheimer's comparison that got to me even more than calling it a disease. Oh well, if you're offended too bad, I'm outspoken.

I've always heard it referred to around here as a disease. In any case, whatever it is, it's something he needs emotional help and treatment for...and something she's not gonna turn her back on him for just because it's hard to deal with. I get where you're coming from, and we've ALL had/have family members with actual diseases, doesn't mean this isn't an improtant issue...so please stop trying to make it seem like it's not with your facts. You really should't take personal offense to alcoholism being called a disease. It may not be classifed as an actual "disease", I don't really care if it is or not....point is it's something him and everyone around him have too deal with and is he doesn't get help it could turn into a life or death situation. Trust me, it killed my Grandpa, Uncle, and soon my father. No one is being disrespectful, and I'm sure no one is offended by us calling it a disease except you.

My mom's step brother got too drunk and died behind a hospital because he couldn't find the door and there are other stories that I don't need to share because it's not important. You know how I feel and why I feel that way and I don't regret or want to retract anything I've said. Also, I was never saying it wasn't important and I don't care if I was the only one who was offended, the fact is I was so I said something about it. That being said, my best wishes go out to pansy and her husband. I really hope he gets all the help and support he needs because I doubt he could do it alone.

Fuck, anything is considered a "disease" nowadays. Even acid reflux:rolleyes:

lol

True dat'

What about Irritable Bowel Syndrome?
AKA
We don't really know what's wrong with you but here's some stomach medicine.

exactly...so try and not take offense so easy. No one means any disrespect, I'm sure.

I'm sure they don't but like I said, I'm outspoken, if I have an opinion I'll share it. You have no idea how much trouble that got me into with teachers back in high school...

*EDIT* I wasn't really offended I just wanted to state my opinion. I don't get offended that easily.

Why do you always have to go and make me cry. Maybe we can do something this weekend. If its nice we can do something outside. That would be good for all of us. I miss you too hun. I'll talk to you and see you later.