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barbra 05-12-2005 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Huh?

Bush has nothing to do with my world, at all, really. There's too many checks and balances for him to have any real power. He's homophobic-ness just gives me a reason to be angry, that's about it...

...nothing's going to change the world, because the world is made of people. Nothing changes human nature. We're always going to be the same.

People are born to go to hell.

If there's a family made up of cult members that has a kid, that kid is already condemned, is it not? It'll grow up with the same values and ideas and believes. Don't dare throw free will into that. You are your parents. You are their product.

Without people to make up hell, there is no heaven. And if god knows all, he knows who's going to hell before they're even conceived. And he allows it to be.

Poo on you.

a) you don't seem to know whats going on
b) bush has more power, influence and say in what goes on with the world than you must realize. Just look at all the freakin republican states?! Bush has become more than just a puppet.
c) we all have free will, we all have choices and a child raised poorly doesn't nessisarly have to grow up to be a shit head. There are more influences in life than parental guidence. d) and if god DID give us free will then the future is and will always be uncertain, she's just infalible, not all knowing

barbra 05-12-2005 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by slasherman
Thought they wanted that horseface Kelly..:confused:
like three of them, the anti-war actors, the rest were gung hoe, producers, directors, studio executives, you know... real hollywood.

urgeok 05-12-2005 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Fuck, I want that on a t-shirt.


it won't seem that profound to you in a couple of years.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 05-12-2005 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
it won't seem that profound to you in a couple of years.
I was kidding mr. pro child. :mad:

barbra 05-12-2005 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Yes, I do.

A little genocide...

Six million killed over religion, and nothing there to save them. Don't you see that?

But god did send his own son to die. Maybe god rewards a painful life. Maybe seeing his own creatures suffering gets him off.

humans have always waged war, you like the idea of death, you said so yourself. Those people where destined to go to hell reguardless right? Anyhow if it wasn't for that war I wouldn't be here today and you know that other thing.... 100% of all humans will die.

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by barbra
a) you don't seem to know whats going on
b) bush has more power, influence and say in what goes on with the world than you must realize. Just look at all the freakin republican states?! Bush has become more than just a puppet.
c) we all have free will, we all have choices and a child raised poorly doesn't nessisarly have to grow up to be a shit head. There are more influences in life than parental guidence. d) and if god DID give us free will then the future is and will always be uncertain, she's just infalible, not all knowing

a) I really don't. I'm very ignorant. I live in a Kansas town made of three hundred people. I do not care if it does not effect me. I really am trying to work on that.

b) I don't know about all that. I'll look into it, really.

c) There are more influences in life than parental guidence. But what are those? Teachers? Community? What if they all think the same? What of little muslim children? Are they going to hell for worshipping the wrong god?

d) We've had free will for thousands of years, and we're still more or less the same. Why would the future be different?

She? Your god's a she? that's awesome.

urgeok 05-12-2005 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
I was kidding mr. pro child. :mad:
i dunno .. you didnt use a smiley !

i'm gonna start a thread on the proper uses of a smiley

:D

X¤MurderDoll¤X 05-12-2005 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i dunno .. you didnt use a smiley !

i'm gonna start a thread on the proper uses of a smiley

:D

:mad:

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by barbra
humans have always waged war, you like the idea of death, you said so yourself. Those people where destined to go to hell reguardless right? Anyhow if it wasn't for that war I wouldn't be here today and you know that other thing.... 100% of all humans will die.
Humans have always waged war, and god has never stopped them.

urgeok 05-12-2005 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
:mad:
:p

X¤MurderDoll¤X 05-12-2005 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Humans have always waged war, and god has never stopped them.
Why should he/she/it?

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 11:40 AM

Urgeok, do you even have an opinion on any of this, or just smilies?

barbra 05-12-2005 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava

c) There are more influences in life than parental guidence. But what are those? Teachers? Community? What if they all think the same? What of little muslim children? Are they going to hell for worshipping the wrong god?

d) We've had free will for thousands of years, and we're still more or less the same. Why would the future be different?

She? Your god's a she? that's awesome.

yep, even childhood friends and television shows can influence you as a child. When you're so young in the world, you're pretty much a spounge. One god is not the right god. In my opinion its how you treat yourself, others and mother earth. Reguardless of what you've named your god the idea is still the same. the future has the ability to be different, but in case you haven't noticed this generation, the one that is about to take over the earth, is still stuck up their parents ass. Our parents have discoverd new technology to cure their old age, so to speak. They spent their life making thier future, profiting from their future and now, they plan on living for ever through cosmetic surgery and extreme diets. We need a revolution and we need to take charge. I do beleave our ideas are the same but maybe we could be less greedy. oh yeah and your god is a she too ;) you may not know it yet

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X
Why should he/she/it?
Why?

What's the point of a god, then? To take in our souls and sort them after death?

Vodstok 05-12-2005 11:44 AM

yep. He's a giant cosmic change-sorter. Complete with a crank.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 05-12-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Why?

What's the point of a god, then? To take in our souls and sort them after death?

maybe, who knows?

urgeok 05-12-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Urgeok, do you even have an opinion on any of this, or just smilies?
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[i]Originally posted by mandolin_ava
But she was a dumb cunt, wasn't she?

I haven't seen that movie in a while. She struck me as stupid, I think...

Next time I'll try to remember that I'm here to impress you, okay? I'll do my best to be mature because I sincerly care what you think.[/B]

hmmm i guess thats another contradiction..

but you admit you contradict yourself - so that makes it acceptable.

slasherman 05-12-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by barbra
.... 100% of all humans will die.
...but some of us become ghosts
http://www.ghoststudy.com/monthly/feb05/hooded01.jpg
http://www.ghoststudy.com/monthly/feb05/hooded02.jpg

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by barbra
yep, even childhood friends and television shows can influence you as a child. When you're so young in the world, you're pretty much a spounge. One god is not the right god. In my opinion its how you treat yourself, others and mother earth. Reguardless of what you've named your god the idea is still the same. the future has the ability to be different, but in case you haven't noticed this generation, the one that is about to take over the earth, is still stuck up their parents ass. Our parents have discoverd new technology to cure their old age, so to speak. They spent their life making thier future, profiting from their future and now, they plan on living for ever through cosmetic surgery and extreme diets. We need a revolution and we need to take charge. I do beleave our ideas are the same but maybe we could be less greedy. oh yeah and your god is a she too ;) you may not know it yet
My god is intelligence. And of all the women I've seen, I may be the only female misogynist you'll ever meet.

It's the stereotyped chics I hate, and all of them are that way.

The christian god is defenitly not the right god for me.

Cosmetic surgery scares me, too. Is it the goal of every fourty-something chic to look eighteen? Objectifying themselves to give themselves some type of worth...

...bleh...

barbra 05-12-2005 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Why?

What's the point of a god, then? To take in our souls and sort them after death?

maybe she just comes around when we get on the wrong path. Its up to us, people to live and take care of our planet, to secure a future for the next generation. If she's real or not we still have an obligation to each other and our home, it really isn't a matter of faith at all. Feel free to fill your heart with something else, god doesn't mind, I promise

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
hmmm i guess thats another contradiction..

but you admit you contradict yourself - so that makes it acceptable.

I Contradict Myself CONSTANTLY. I cannot help it. It's what I do.

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by barbra
maybe she just comes around when we get on the wrong path. Its up to us, people to live and take care of our planet, to secure a future for the next generation. If she's real or not we still have an obligation to each other and our home, it really isn't a matter of faith at all. Feel free to fill your heart with something else, god doesn't mind, I promise
Yes! Isn't world war two a wrong path?

barbra 05-12-2005 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Cosmetic surgery scares me, too. Is it the goal of every fourty-something chic to look eighteen? Objectifying themselves to give themselves some type of worth...

...bleh...

they aren't giving themselfs worth, they are trying to live forever, thats the big joke. Surgery can't make you love your self. as for the rest of your statement.. you too are now a sterio-type. congrats

barbra 05-12-2005 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Yes! Isn't world war two a wrong path?
I thought it was just thinning out the population for the next wave. we handled it right, the wole planted wasn't wiped out. There are still jews in the world, I mean hello, Im here... :rolleyes:

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by barbra
you too are now a sterio-type. congrats
Yeah, I'm trying to work on that.

:p

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by barbra
I thought it was just thinning out the population for the next wave.
Aids seemed an acceptable killer, because it killed those stupid enough to contract the virus.

In WWII, the victims didn't do anything. That's my thought process on that.

Totally didn't think of it that way. See? Arguing has a point. I'm close minded and have no one to argue with about what I think, because no one here questions the existence of god. Now I've got stuff to think about.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 05-12-2005 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
My god is intelligence. And of all the women I've seen, I may be the only female misogynist you'll ever meet.

Your god has forsaken you.

barbra 05-12-2005 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Yeah, I'm trying to work on that.

:p

now you're a different kind, you can't move out of it, once you were born a certain weight or in a certain place, or even at a certain time you became a number... is that proof of the rapture?? ;)

barbra 05-12-2005 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Aids seemed an acceptable killer, because it killed those stupid enough to contract the virus.

In WWII, the victims didn't do anything. That's my thought process on that.

Totally didn't think of it that way. See? Arguing has a point. I'm close minded and have no one to argue with about what I think, because no one here questions the existence of god. Now I've got stuff to think about.

don't hurt your self, and people don't get aids for being stupid, if they did you would be in major trouble.. ;)

X¤MurderDoll¤X 05-12-2005 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Aids seemed an acceptable killer, because it killed those stupid enough to contract the virus.

Explain this?

I know what you're going to say, and I'm luring you but still...

urgeok 05-12-2005 11:58 AM

i do not believe there is a god.

but i know the bible .. and they have an answer for every question raised so far. I dont believe them - i think the bible is a very clever and carefully written instruction manual which takes into consideration almost everything - as to have a counter arguement for everything.

eg. if heaven is better why dont i kill myself now ? because suicide is a sin.

i cant see god ... faith is the cornerstone of belief.

and so on ..


I believe we are here due to a natural accident. Does that mean there is no value in life .. i dont think so but anyone who thinks that obviously has nothing to offer .. so .. adios..

we have developed into a series of communities. We are a mess of a race but every now and then there is a glimmer of hope.
We are in a race right now - to grow into a race of mature people vs destroying the planet. My bet is that we are going to destroy the planet ... but i have a very strong survivor instinct - paired with the desire to do and see and experience as much as i can before i die ..and hopefully pave the way for my kid to do and see and experience even more than i did after i'm gone.

religion exists/existed for a few reasons.

1) to explain the unexplainable
2) to enforce civilized law
3) to educate
4) to control people
5) to give us something to believe in when times get tough - something to believe in so that people will have continuance after death.

if you need these things .. whatever .. i dont.

as ai said somewhere here a few times before .. i believe in enjoying life to the fullest without infringing on anyone elses enjoyment ..(as long as their enjoyment doesnt consist of hurting others)

thats pretty much it in a big assed nutshel

urgeok 05-12-2005 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by mandolin_ava
Aids seemed an acceptable killer, because it killed those stupid enough to contract the virus.


you are a complete idiot.
no one with any shred of intelligence could ever have put that into print.

and i dont give a shit if you value my opinion or contradict yourself again later.

just stupid ignorant child

Vodstok 05-12-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i do not believe there is a god.

but i know the bible .. and they have an answer for every question raised so far. I dont believe them - i think the bible is a very clever and carefully written instruction manual which takes into consideration almost everything - as to have a counter arguement for everything.

eg. if heaven is better why dont i kill myself now ? because suicide is a sin.

i cant see god ... faith is the cornerstone of belief.

and so on ..


I believe we are here due to a natural accident. Does that mean there is no value in life .. i dont think so but anyone who thinks that obviously has nothing to offer .. so .. adios..

we have developed into a series of communities. We are a mess of a race but every now and then there is a glimmer of hope.
We are in a race right now - to grow into a race of mature people vs destroying the planet. My bet is that we are going to destroy the planet ... but i have a very strong survivor instinct - paired with the desire to do and see and experience as much as i can before i die ..and hopefully pave the way for my kid to do and see and experience even more than i did after i'm gone.

religion exists/existed for a few reasons.

1) to explain the unexplainable
2) to enforce civilized law
3) to educate
4) to control people
5) to give us something to believe in when times get tough - something to believe in so that people will have continuance after death.

if you need these things .. whatever .. i dont.

as ai said somewhere here a few times before .. i believe in enjoying life to the fullest without infringing on anyone elses enjoyment ..(as long as their enjoyment doesnt consist of hurting others)

thats pretty much it in a big assed nutshel

:D

Vodstok 05-12-2005 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
you are a complete idiot.
no one with any shred of intelligence could ever have put that into print.

and i dont give a shit if you value my opinion or contradict yourself again later.

just stupid ignorant child

Hmmm... im reminded of a conversation we once all had about the limitations of freedom of speech....


Yes, sometimes it IS appropriate....

urgeok 05-12-2005 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
:D
he looks like he's saying :

'thatsa nicea pizza-pie !'

urgeok 05-12-2005 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Hmmm... im reminded of a conversation we once all had about the limitations of freedom of speech....


Yes, sometimes it IS appropriate....

i equate this with giving a drunk an armoured tank to drive home in.

Vodstok 05-12-2005 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
he looks like he's saying :

'thatsa nicea pizza-pie !'

No he was saying "I have this much left to live"

Or, "My opinion means this much"

Nope, didnt care for the guy. maybe the new one will not let his subordinates look away when one o fthem is fucking kids.

Vodstok 05-12-2005 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i equate this with giving a drunk an armoured tank to drive home in.
LOL!


"If brains were dynamite, he wouldnt have enough to blow his nose."

or her. I dont care.

barbra 05-12-2005 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
No he was saying "I have this much left to live"

Or, "My opinion means this much"

Nope, didnt care for the guy. maybe the new one will not let his subordinates look away when one o fthem is fucking kids.

thats the trouble with being a repersinitve I suppose, then again those catholics don't really take action on much,

mandolin_ava 05-12-2005 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
you are a complete idiot.
no one with any shred of intelligence could ever have put that into print.

and i dont give a shit if you value my opinion or contradict yourself again later.

just stupid ignorant child

Isn't that it, though? I think having children's about the same thing. The only reason any of us are here is because two people thought themselves decent enough to raise a child.

Aids is a product of stupidity, right? Ignorance, at least.


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