Apathy: the #1 reason why the U.S.A. is in the state it's in.

Yes, exactly, that is totally the whole and only fucking reason...yeeper

Being a bartender im reluctant to speak on Religion or Politics.......but Bwind put it better than i think ive ever heard.

Couldnt agree more and have always been very curious as to what percent of the country actually feels the same way. Damn the man.....save the empire!!!!

The thing that has surprised me is the level genuine anger and how vicious the politicking has gotten.

It probably takes something as extreme as this shooting to make people take a step back and try to reign back the insanity a little.

As for fixing the 'system', for as long as money talks their is no way things will change. What they need is to ban completely all outside funding for political campaigns and make them regulated and funded by the state (which of course means jon q taxpayer coughing up for the tab).

Don't say 'regulated'!! The Tea Party might hear you!:rolleyes:

Why should we pay for people to campaign? It all comes down to power, and the people who shouldn't have power are the ones that want it the most. Things will change, they always do, maybe for a while we'll get a big behemoth of a government and the dems will be monitoring our lovely HDC for us. Wouldn't that be nice Wicker?

Republicans and Democrats, in general, are very black and white in their views. Unfortunately, the majority of real people live in the gray area in between.

I am pro-guns, anti-censorship, anti-tax, pro-responsible government spending, pro-socialized healthcare, pro-gay marriage, pro-death penalty, pro-legalized prostitution, pro-decriminalized marijuana laws, anti-abortion (in most cases), etc... Half of those are republican platforms, the other half democratic. Since we're stuck with just 2 black and white parties, I will probably never see a candidate that I agree with on everything and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It's highly discouraging.

Oh yes, it's the Democrats that have a history of monitoring what people say about their government.:rolleyes: With the notable exception of Wikileaks, I think the Republicans have been, by far, the biggest culprits in trying to control what we can say about the President and other high ranking politicians (I remember vividly, during the early post 9/11 days, people getting visits from the feds because someone overheard them say something negative about the way George W. Bush was handling the situation).

Getting back to our looney, I see a resemblance:http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/10/0...-bn-credit.jpg

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The survey was conducted shortly after the FCC decided on a party line vote to impose so-called “net neutrality” regulations on the Internet world. Republicans and unaffiliated voters overwhelmingly oppose FCC regulation of the Internet, while Democrats are more evenly divided. Those who use the Internet most are most opposed to FCC regulations.
By a 52% to 27% margin, voters believe that more free market competition is better than more regulation for protecting Internet users. Republicans and unaffiliated voters overwhelmingly share this view, but a plurality of Democrats (46%) think more regulation is the better approach.
Fifty-six percent (56%) of voters believe that the FCC would use its regulatory authority to promote a political agenda. Half that number (28%) disagree and believe the commission would regulate in an unbiased manner. The partisan divide is the same on this question as the others. A plurality of Democrats sees an unbiased regulatory approach, while most Republicans and unaffiliated voters fear a political agenda.



Also, does anybody else think it's funny that a UFC joked about wanting to fight Obama and had a visit from the secret service?

Anyway, if you're honest with yourself Wicker, you'll agree that be you Dem or Rep the people representing you have fallen away from the ideals of the party you're a part of.