The Walking Dead - Thoughts?

[Tommy Jarvis]

Like in real life, the men surrounding Negan have their perks and power only because of what Negan has proven he can do with people. The bigger his group gets -- big when our friends run into him -- the more unlikely it is someone can replace him.

Also don't underestimate the desire among some people to have a strong leader in such extreme times. Even if he's a jerk and a dictator.

[Sculpt]

Also don't underestimate the desire among some people to have a strong leader in such extreme times. Even if he's a jerk and a dictator.
Can Rick's way replace him?

[LuvablePsycho]

Also don't underestimate the desire among some people to have a strong leader in such extreme times. Even if he's a jerk and a dictator.

Yeah that's true. It's in our human nature to look towards a leader of some sort for guidance regardless if he/she is good or bad.

We're just like those families of apes in the wild that have an alpha male and an alpha female.

Plus you can never have two humans in the same room without one trying to be in control of the other.

[Tommy Jarvis]

Can Rick's way replace him?

Delivering a valid, nuanced answer to that question while at the same time providing entertaining television... Now THAT'S a challenge for a team of writers. :)

[Morningriser]

When does Walking Dead start back anyway, tonight?

[Sculpt]

When does Walking Dead start back anyway, tonight?
This Sunday evening will be the 3rd ep of this 9th season. I read this is the last season.

[Morningriser]

Yeah I had no idea it already started but I am getting caught up right now. I saw something that said the final Rick Grimes episodes. If they are saying he is going to die I don't understand why they spoiled it...

Damn Gabriel! In that bitch over a log and teach her how to speak proper English.

[Sculpt]

I hadn't read anything about how it ends.

S9E3 Warning Signs: A better ep than the prior two. Get some intrigue shaping up. The current alliance is teetering. We get hints of the helicopter people again. Been a while since we've heard from them. Wasn't there an ep where Rick's group traded with the older woman who was with the helicopter people?

[Morningriser]

I don't know it's getting ready to happen but last night the preview for next week's said Rick Grimes only has two episodes left And even Chris Hardwick was talking about how everyone knew it would happen eventually when talking dead first came on. Why in the hell would they spoil something like that?

[Sculpt]

I don't know it's getting ready to happen but last night the preview for next week's said Rick Grimes only has two episodes left And even Chris Hardwick was talking about how everyone knew it would happen eventually when talking dead first came on. Why in the hell would they spoil something like that?
I don't believe any rumors. Don't want to know either. There's no fun in ruining your enjoyment of what's to come anyway. I think this is going to be pretty cool.

Did you remember anything about the helicopter people?

[Morningriser]

All I remember before was they came in to check on Jadis but she waved them away. Perhaps she originally planned on giving Negan to them? All I know is that bitch cannot be trusted no matter what anyone does for her.

[Sculpt]

All I remember before was they came in to check on Jadis but she waved them away. Perhaps she originally planned on giving Negan to them? All I know is that bitch cannot be trusted no matter what anyone does for her.Hmm... ya, not sure. Until this 3rd ep, I didn't know Jadis had anything to do with the helopeople.

I seem to remember a helo landing and this older lady came with military men and they talked with Rick and gang, and then they made a trade with a truck load of stuff. But now I don't trust my memory on this. I think I might look this up. ::big grin::

[Morningriser]

Well if they actually are planning on killing off Rick next week, they did a hell of a job ruining it for everyone. I'm guessing there's going to be some weird plot twist to it but this is still throwing me for a loop. I guess we will find out next Sunday.

[Sculpt]

Ya, it doesn't look good for Rick. You never know what's gonna happen. They could kill off anybody, but I just not expecting anyone in particular. Pretty good show this week.

[Morningriser]

I kind of get the hint that Maggie is going to happen by at the last moment and help him but I don't know. I'm anxious to see Negan in light so we can see his white beard.

[cheebacheeba]

Well if they actually are planning on killing off Rick next week, they did a hell of a job ruining it for everyone.

I think that ship sailed when they actually ANNOUNCED it some months before the season even started airing.
So concerned with fan reactions that they started publicly babbling excuses.
They keep doing this actually.
For once, the creators of the show are just as bad as insiders/fans with this shit.

I'm anxious to see Negan in light so we can see his white beard.
You know...he really does seem to nail the personality, but I feel like they chose the wrong actor, or the right one some decade too late.
He has presence, but he looks almost skinny and frail. Negan in the comic is a tank in comparison.
He still has an interesting story ahead - though one integral and interesting part of it will be missing due to certain character/s not being around any more.

[Morningriser]

At this point I don't think they know what the hell they are doing. Perhaps they spoiled Rick's death because so many people freaked the hell out over Glenn and Abraham's deaths. I honestly think at this point they are just beating a dead horse with this show. All the key characters that are still around in the comics are dead on the show. I feel like they jumped the shark when they killed off Carl. I have a feeling the show in general might not be lasting but another season or so considering everything that's going on.

[Sculpt]

I think that ship sailed when they actually ANNOUNCED it some months before the season even started airing.
So concerned with fan reactions that they started publicly babbling excuses.
They keep doing this actually.
For once, the creators of the show are just as bad as insiders/fans with this shit.


You know...he really does seem to nail the personality, but I feel like they chose the wrong actor, or the right one some decade too late.
He has presence, but he looks almost skinny and frail. Negan in the comic is a tank in comparison.
He still has an interesting story ahead - though one integral and interesting part of it will be missing due to certain character/s not being around any more.
Unbelievably inappropriate for the creators to announce Rick would die this season. I'm assuming a cheap ploy to increase viewership. It didn't work. This seasons avg is down a million and a half from last seasons last 6 eps.

I haven't read the comics, but the actor they choose for Negan I think has worked well. He does seem a bit slight recently, but I didn't that impression in his first eps. He fist fought Simon for leadership, but I don't know if that was always an open invitation... that would certainly matter how big Negan would have to be.

[Morningriser]

I have a prediction for tonight's Walking Dead. I don't think Rick is going to die. I think Jada's is going to take him so she can get out and he will disappear but won't actually died. He might return one day or he might end up on Fear. Who knows at this point? I'm just calling it.

[Sculpt]

I have a prediction for tonight's Walking Dead. I don't think Rick is going to die. I think Jada's is going to take him so she can get out and he will disappear but won't actually died. He might return one day or he might end up on Fear. Who knows at this point? I'm just calling it.
Interesting prediction. I don't know how Jadis would know where he is. She wasn't even in on throwing Rick off track (ala Daryl and Maggie), and wasn't in on the loop of where he was going (to Negan's cell).

actually, nobody knows where he is except Daryl in general. Show be interesting.

[Morningriser]

I called it! And now according to the preview for the next 3 episodes of Walking Dead, the show is ruined.

[Sculpt]

I called it! And now according to the preview for the next 3 episodes of Walking Dead, the show is ruined.
Good call, Morn! It didn't make a lot of sense that Jadis was standing near where Rick was. I guess Rick was on the bridge, but I would think the blast would push him back from the bridge. I guess when the bridge collapsed he fell in and got washed down stream and up on, or climbed on, the shore. The whole gang would have been very close to the helo coming down too.

Pretty good episode I thought.

I guess in the previews they have Judith around 7, and a new group coming in. Could be interesting.

[Morningriser]

I just think the way it ended showing that Judith is older and basically taking over where her dad and brother left off seems corny and is getting pretty tired. I guess I'm just tired of the repetition is all.

[Sculpt]

I just think the way it ended showing that Judith is older and basically taking over where her dad and brother left off seems corny and is getting pretty tired. I guess I'm just tired of the repetition is all.
Good point. You could see Judith as just taking the place of Rick, and taking new folk in seems like the same repetition. They show her being adventurous, which is something nobody else was last season. At least they're evolving the walkers.

I thought one the of the better parts was when they followed the train tracks to Terminus. They went through that at a good pace. Needs more of that. Settling down doesn't really make for this type of show.

[Morningriser]

I think the evolving Walkers are actually going to turn out to be the whispers. I really have no problem with Judith being older it just seemed like they turn it into a children's show. The way she introduced herself she sounded so happy and cheerful about introducing herself but I know that's just bad acting and I take into account that it is a little girl but still... there is honestly a part of me that doesn't want to watch anymore and wants to just leave it at this. Rick got out. He lost his son and his wife and I know he loved Judith like his own but she was not his daughter. She will take over in his place, unlike in the comics, Carolyn or Ezekiel die, they will live happily together even if it's in the zombie apocalypse, and Negan, as much as I love the character, will rot in his jail cell.

[Sculpt]

SPOILERS - Evolution

Watched last show Evolution. It is indeed the group called the Whisperers, and not an evolution of the zombies.

This line isn't as interesting, as it's just another group of people, rather then upping the ante on the threat from the zombies alone. But it's probably for the best considering it's important not to look to closely at the science of the zombies, cause otherwise, they really couldn't exit as is. Namely, they couldn't move/live without consuming water (which we've never seen them do), and circulate it with an energy source, but not that they couldn't get water somehow.

Cool ending where we discover the Whisperers by one acting like a zombie till the last minute, to then duck a strike by Jesus, and then stab him in the heart and kill him.

It's too bad they didn't do more with Jesus. I remember his first introduction where he was karate fighting against Rick and Daryl -- probably one of the best sequences of the series. Would loved to have seen him do a lot more of that throughout the entire time he's been around, especially the way the action had become so blasé. Not to mention they had hinted at some interesting opinions, but then back that off to him being a loyal servant of Maggie, only gently encouraging togetherness.

They introduced an interesting mystery: something happened in the core group that caused the three cities to separate. They hint at Michonne feeling she was double-crossed by someone close, possibly Maggie, which is why Michonne hasn't been to Hilltop in over a year and had no idea Maggie was gone to Georgie's group.

Now they're in a break until Feb 10.

Things in the future would be the small group currently surrounded by the Whisperers at the graveyard. Nagen has escaped; what is he going to do? They'll be discovering who the Whisperers are and what they're up to. Other than that, the new group of characters entering Hilltop which adds unpredictability.

[Morningriser]

I went ahead and finished the season despite being highly annoyed that they took the main character off the show. With that said, I watched it because of the whispers. I know a lot of people who don't follow the comics don't know about them. I don't read the comics either but a friend of mine who does told me about them a few years ago so when they showed in the preview for the last remaining episodes, at the end of Rick's last episode, when Aaron and somebody else were talking about the Walkers just raising basically, I knew it was them. The Walkers cannot evolve. When I heard one of them whisper don't let them get away that was the absolute definitive confirmation for me.

That reveal was creepy though. I mean the tension was nowhere near as high as it was when Negan Finally Revealed himself, knowing that someone was going to die. However, this was scarier than that. The way they said that final scene up with the lighting, the setting, The Whispers, And the fact that poor Jesus got killed, it was a great scene!

The only thing I am worried about though is that going to be the highlight of how they make the audience feel. I mean after the scene with Negan and the first episode after the break were really intense but after that it just went to shit. He was fun to watch but there was no tension whatsoever felt by me or anyone else I talk to about it. I just hope they can keep the flow going with the whisperers because this has the elements to be downright scary if they do it right.

[Sculpt]

Totally agree. They can't make this Whisperers thing scary and suspenseful. The setting in the last episode was done really well, with all the fog.

And yeah, I thought the Negan reveal, the battle Rick does trying to survive in that RV was cool too, and then the show slowly went down. I also thought the buildup and reveal of the Terminus was well done.

[Morningriser]

Well after putting a little thought into it, remember how everyone freaked the hell out over the mid-season premiere where it actually showed Glenn and Abraham get killed and everyone and their fucking brother started simultaneously having their periods all at once over it? I'm assuming that had a lot to do with why they didn't make Negan as brutal as he is in the comics aside from that one scene. There is only one Negan though and the whispers are an entire group where one has just as much Authority as the other. They live among the walkers and the way they whisper is creepy as fuck. I mean when the one who killed Jesus " you are aware you do not belong" and when they were walking past Eugene and Rosita, the one that said don't let them get away, both gave me chills. They have so much potential to put some actual horror back into this series with the whispers.

[Sculpt]

somebody offered up a good idea on the whole Jadis, helo-people "A"s and "B"s thing...

Noting the elaborate zombie biting devices Jadis used on Negan and Gabe, and the helo close by, maybe A is after bit, and B is before bit. Rick was a B.

So maybe they want recently bit people to research curing them.

It's odd, if they know Jadis is inflicting the bites, why wouldn't they prefer non-bit captured people where they would infect them themselves? Would fit better if they wanted accidental bites, but Negan/Gabe would have told them how it happened.

[Angra]

This show will get more seasons than Days of Our Lives. Judith will end up dying of old, in real life.

I hate this show now. Kill them all.

[Morningriser]

Yeah I really don't understand the point of this either. I mean I finished out the season because I figured that was The Whispers And I wanted to see how they brought them into it but yeah, we see Rick Grimes fly by and a helicopter and then suddenly Judith is the same age Carl was when all of this started. Seems legit... and in this for years time he never came back but we are supposed to believe he is still alive?

And I feel like once it starts back we are going to be right back at square one. I mean in the comics Negan sides with everyone to take out the Whispers so I assume that's what's going to happen now and he will be a good guy at least until they are gone but otherwise I am sure we are going to be going back to hearing Maggie talk half the episode about how the world is ours in her weird Georgia Peach accent and have Ezekiel, talkin like he's auditioning for Monty Python and the Holy Grail, going on about his motivational speeches. My point is this show is pretty much over.

And if they are just going to keep killing random characters, why can't they at least kill people no one gives a fuck about like Erin or Henry or Rosita or Enid or someone who the fans don't connect with and start to like. I mean was taking the star of the entire series from us three episodes earlier not enough?

And one more thing actually, is baby Herschel supposed to be dead now? I mean I haven't seen him since the time lapse unless I just missed him. I haven't heard anyone talk about him either.

[Sculpt]

Yeah I really don't understand the point of this either. I mean I finished out the season because I figured that was The Whispers And I wanted to see how they brought them into it but yeah, we see Rick Grimes fly by and a helicopter and then suddenly Judith is the same age Carl was when all of this started. Seems legit... and in this for years time he never came back but we are supposed to believe he is still alive?

And I feel like once it starts back we are going to be right back at square one. I mean in the comics Negan sides with everyone to take out the Whispers so I assume that's what's going to happen now and he will be a good guy at least until they are gone but otherwise I am sure we are going to be going back to hearing Maggie talk half the episode about how the world is ours in her weird Georgia Peach accent and have Ezekiel, talkin like he's auditioning for Monty Python and the Holy Grail, going on about his motivational speeches. My point is this show is pretty much over.

And if they are just going to keep killing random characters, why can't they at least kill people no one gives a fuck about like Erin or Henry or Rosita or Enid or someone who the fans don't connect with and start to like. I mean was taking the star of the entire series from us three episodes earlier not enough?

And one more thing actually, is baby Herschel supposed to be dead now? I mean I haven't seen him since the time lapse unless I just missed him. I haven't heard anyone talk about him either.
Well, sorry you guys aren't digging it anymore. I'm still enjoying it.

Not sure about baby Herschel. I forgot all about him. I didn't even remember if he survived Maggie's distress during the initial Negan reveal. If he's alive, he must be with Maggie at Georgie's. The show it definitely going through some character changes.

But if you'll forgive me, as I'm still digging TWD, I'm trying to avoid hearing about spoilers coming from the comics and the TV interview shows, neither of which I've read/watched. I don't remember where I heard it, but I didn't want to know Rick was leaving this season. I foolishly read a clearly marked spoiler that was a theory about the Whisperers from the comic. I won't do that again. ::big grin::

[Morningriser]

Back when this season first started, Herschel had been born during the break between last season and this one. Since the time lapse though they haven't said anything about him or showed him or anything so I wonder if perhaps he died at some point in that four-year period.

[Morningriser]

how much do you guys want to bet that they only gave Daryl a dog so The Whispers could kill it and set him off? I could see that cliche coming.

[Sculpt]

how much do you guys want to bet that they only gave Daryl a dog so The Whispers could kill it and set him off? I could see that cliche coming.
I could see that. Guess it's easier than setting him up with a lady. Then again, TWD has been missing a pet dog.

[Morningriser]

Well I said I was done with it after Rick left but then my curiosity was piqued when I realized the whisperers were coming. Tonight is the mid-season premier and I want to see what they can do considering the reveal was very nicely done.

[Morningriser]

Meh... right back to the same old same old.

[Sculpt]

SPOILERS

I liked it. Thought it was pretty well done. Effective scene with ferreting out the Whisperers on the bridge. Those scenes make the series. The Negan situation was interesting, I wasn't expecting them to wrap it up in one episode. He'll probably ask to be released and stay in Alexandria, become a leader there.

[Morningriser]

Okay this half of the season is off to a pretty good start, I will admit. I re-watched last week's episode before this week's episode and it's getting good, but aside from the fact that they disguise themselves as Walkers, I don't see The Whispers to be anywhere near as much of a threat as Negan and the savior's were.

[Sculpt]

TWD has some new life with the story of the Whisperers... group of people who live outside, animistically, are able to fool the zombies by wearing zombie skin masks, smell and walk like zombies, and even heard them around.

TWD is also slowly recounting an event that happened in the recent past that made all the communities and many key characters separate.

[cheebacheeba]

Better ep than most.

[Sculpt]

Better ep than most.
I like where they're going with this. The ep before, there's a scene where Daryl and group trick the Whisperes zombie group to walking over an enclosed bridge, then flushes the Whisperers out and captures one. Classic TWD scene, that I hope I see a lot more of.

[Morningriser]

I immediately regret every bad thing I said about Walking Dead. This half of the season has been amazing! Alpha is amazing! Beta is a badass motherfuker! And this is just a theory of mine, but I somehow have a feeling at this Fair coming up, the king and quite possibly the Queen might lose their heads. Can't we just trade for Henry? ::big grin::

[Sculpt]

I immediately regret every bad thing I said about Walking Dead. This half of the season has been amazing! Alpha is amazing! Beta is a badass motherfuker! And this is just a theory of mine, but I somehow have a feeling at this Fair coming up, the king and quite possibly the Queen might lose their heads. Can't we just trade for Henry? ::big grin::
ya, at the end of the last ep two whisperers find the entry of, I think, The Kingdom (doesn't look like the entry of Hilltop or Alexandria). So that sets up maybe a giant hearded walker attack.

I thought maybe they'd figure a way to get Negan free with a Whisperer attack on Alexandria during the Fair, where they let Negan out so he doesn't die, and he leads a group, with Michonne's little boy, to the Fair... wins his freedom.

In Wiki, the summary of the last ep reads Michonne/Daryl go to the Kingdom and are being followed. I didn't see that, did you?

[Morningriser]

No I didn't see that either, but I'll check and watch again tonight because I've been watching all the previous episodes each week, because that's how much I'm into this season. I mean she may be despicable and a terrible human being, but Alpha's voice, especially when she is talking low is so sweet and soothing.

But to get back to last week's episode though, since it was mostly backstory I got confused quite a bit. For example, when we saw the manhole, I thought that had to do with Judith and I didn't even know that it was Whispers that found it until you just told me. I guess I wasn't paying as much attention last week is I should have. This might be a bit of a spoiler though but in the comics Ezekiel and Rosita both get beheaded. I can't stand Rosita anymore and I want her gone. As far as Ezekiel goes, I don't want to see him go because he's a good guy but it's almost inevitable and I somehow have a feeling Carol might go as well since she's being referred to as the queen and is the king and queen both fell it would completely turn so much upside down..


Did they ever say what happened to Maggie? I mean I'm confused and wondering what is in the present and the past because a few weeks ago they were talking about Jesus in present tense so I'm just confused all around haha.

[cheebacheeba]

Did they ever say what happened to Maggie? I mean I'm confused and wondering what is in the present and the past because a few weeks ago they were talking about Jesus in present tense so I'm just confused all around haha.

I think she's taken a break from the show.
Far as I know she's not dead/written out...last I saw she hanged some guy that tried to kill her?
Then, I dunno.

[Morningriser]

Yeah that was Gregory, the former leader of the hilltop. He was a piece of trash from the beginning and should have died way before he did but she was around until the end of the last half of the season but now they are just referring to her as being gone which is why I got confused. But I still wonder why Ezekiel and Carol are talking about Jesus in present tense. The only thing I can think of is they've got the timetables of everything going on all out of whack which is why I think it's going to have to do with the shock and all that's going to happen later. I don't expect anything major to happen tonight other than the fair starting and maybe at the end of the episode we find out the whispers are coming in, but we won't get the money shot until the season finale.

[Morningriser]

I just read that tonight's episode is going to be 85 minutes long. I guess that means we'll get 15 minutes of TV show haha. Something might happen since it's an extended episode.

[Morningriser]

Holy hell what an episode!

That was certainly unexpected! I won't say anything for the people who haven't watched it yet but some asshole spoiled the ending for me since I'm on the west coast and the episode already are by posting a picture. If I hadn't seen that it would have shocked the shit out of me and it still kind of did. All of that and he never even got to hit it.

[cheebacheeba]

That was certainly unexpected! I won't say anything for the people who haven't watched it yet but some asshole spoiled the ending for me since I'm on the west coast and the episode already are by posting a picture. If I hadn't seen that it would have shocked the shit out of me and it still kind of did. All of that and he never even got to hit it.

I feel like it was one of the best episodes this season.
I'd seen one version of that scene via the comics a few years back...though at the time the only noteable cast member that happened to was actually Ezekiel - At the end of one issue you saw a head on a pike with Dreads, I think we were meant to assume it was Michonne, then you got the reveal next issue.

To be honest, I think something I've been waiting for has been achieved with this episode - to bring (at least most of) the core cast back together, to cut loose some of the dead weight characters, and to potentially set up a "new" ongoing core cast.

For me, since the prison so many people have dropped in and out of the show...it would be nice to see the kind of core cast we had season 1-3...it's not like nobody died then, but it just seemed like it worked better.
Splitting up for ages then the seperate communities each with slightly different ideals...it's made it feel disjointed and to be honest it's difficult to keep up with it.

It's just hard to bother with the new characters as most of them have been cannon fodder for too long.
Personally, I can deal with the characters they chose to kill off, and I don't think at this stage any of them are a huge loss to the show.
I hope what we get from this is a closer knit "community" and some characters that get the chance at a little depth and longevity.

It was nice to see Carol and Judith have their moment.

TV Rick would have taken them to war already over this...I wonder who will light the fuse this time around...I mean probably the "smart" thing to do would try to avoid more conflict, but you know that's not gonna happen.,

[Morningriser]

I don't think the killing is done yet. We still have one more episode left. I'm terrified that Ezekiel and Carol both are going to get it. Carol is going to do something, you can't deny that. I just hope she doesn't fuck up and get herself killed. But yes! I loved that they brought the cast back together finally. I just don't understand a few things about the ending. When the woman was talking to Ezekiel she asked him about me shown, didn't she? At had me wondering how she knew her name and then towards the end she asked her her name and she told her but that scene took place after the scene with Ezekiel so that confuse the hell out of me as to how she knew who she was in the first place.

I also found it a bit cheesy that after Alpha cleaned herself up and then got back into dirty hobo looking mode, the dirt around her mouth and eyes were exactly the same as before. That seemed a bit far-fetched if she was just smearing dirt on her face.

All I can say is I can't wait until Negan gets loose. I know what happens. It's going to be awesome if they do it on the show the same way they do it in the comics. Poetic Justice!

Also, that music at the end and when you could just see the tip tops at the top of that Hill, that's when my stomach started to sink. That scene was so beautifully well done. Carol played it perfect!

[cheebacheeba]

All I can say is I can't wait until Negan gets loose. I know what happens. It's going to be awesome if they do it on the show the same way they do it in the comics. Poetic Justice!


As I recall...while I'd love to see the scene and how he justifies himself doing it as a "See, I'm a valuable ally???"
I think how it'll play out is that they'll let him out to help them, not yknow isolate him to the outerskirts like they did in the comic...and then yeah it'll look like he's turned on them, then that will happen.
Though in the comic, despite him acting like a dog wagging his tail over it, as I recall with that act he ended up making things a lot worse.

I feel like this version of Negan is a lot more kind of "A lost guy who ended up running a dictatorship and became a bit power mad" rather than the absolute psychopath he was in the comic.
This one actually (at least) seems a little more genuine in wanting to redeem himself - in fact I wouldn't be surprised if the show ends up spinning him into a main character.

[Morningriser]

But in the comics doesn't he turn a new Leaf all together as well? I mean given how his story began, with his wife And everything, it would be enough to set anybody over the edge. Look what happened to Morgan. Who's to say in the beginning Negan wasn't just like that only instead of only instead of meeting someone like Morgan dead who grounded him, Negan just wondered alone until he started building up the savior's. I mean in the comics, Negan wasn't even his real name. It was the name of a gym teacher he hated and use the name because it was something he hated. I'm not sure why that emotive a to him but it did. Just like on the show though, in the comics he wouldn't kill women or children. Whether it be the comics or the show he has a heart. I mean he was nice to Carl and he's nice to Judith. Even though him and Rick were enemies, he also respected Rick. When you stop and think about it and that type of situation, one group is just as bad as the other. I mean technically they did start this shit was Negan in the savior's but the point is everybody's doing everything they can to survive and protect their own and what they consider good for them is not going to be good for other groups. The point is they are all exactly the same. Some are more evil than others but they would still bring hell to anything they saw as a threat.

[Sculpt]

I agree, I'm glad they cut down the cast. I preferred the smaller cast of the first 3 seasons. And the cast lost will not be missed... not critical to the story.

Also agree the communities would be better off leaving the Whisperers alone, considering they can kill quite well without any help of hoards, plus they have the hoards to knock down walls and overrun communities. But ya, there will probably be conflict.

The Communities can kill the Whisperer leaders, but they wouldn't know that would do any good. They'd have to sell them on a new way of life.

I'd still like to see what's up with Georgie, Maggie, and the Helo-people.

[Sculpt]

When the woman was talking to Ezekiel she asked him about me shown, didn't she? At had me wondering how she knew her name and then towards the end she asked her her name and she told her but that scene took place after the scene with Ezekiel so that confuse the hell out of me as to how she knew who she was in the first place.

I also found it a bit cheesy that after Alpha cleaned herself up and then got back into dirty hobo looking mode, the dirt around her mouth and eyes were exactly the same as before. That seemed a bit far-fetched if she was just smearing dirt on her face.

All I can say is I can't wait until Negan gets loose. I know what happens. It's going to be awesome if they do it on the show the same way they do it in the comics. Poetic Justice!

Also, that music at the end and when you could just see the tip tops at the top of that Hill, that's when my stomach started to sink. That scene was so beautifully well done. Carol played it perfect!
Alpha walked around the Fair listening and asking questions, she could easily find out who Michonne was, and a ton of anything else. But Alpha probably didn't know what she looked like... which is why she asked Michonne who she was, but knew of her.

Alpha cleaned up for the Fair, and i couldn't even recognise her -- and then when she went back to the woods, she put on the charcoal and mask for safe walking. So it's normal she'd have the eye makeup back.

[cheebacheeba]

But in the comics doesn't he turn a new Leaf all together as well? I mean given how his story began, with his wife And everything, it would be enough to set anybody over the edge.
Hm...I mean he stopped outright killing the "good guys"...though I think he still didn't really like them, like, at all. "Fuck you" kinda attitude the whole way.
He did have a moment when he broke down and talked to/apologised to Lucille, which is actually the name of his dead wife, for not being there.
That was about it.
He's been pretty scarce in the comic for a while now.

[Morningriser]

Jeez Sculpt, I said the woman so it wouldn't spoil anything for those who haven't watched it yet but never mind haha. I think with Maggie, they are acting like they don't know where she's at because supposedly Lauren Cohan needed a break from the show. I think they still could have given her a story as to why she isn't there rather than everybody just saying she's gone. But yeah, if anybody thinks they are going to take that shit lying down and they are mistaken. I mean Negan killed Glenn and Abraham out of Revenge for the group killing some saviors. The Whispers started this by Killing Jesus but all of this happened because they wouldn't give Lidia back. No one, especially Carol of all people, is going to let this go.

But yeah, I'm glad they cut down this cast. I'm guessing that's why they brought all of them on there so they could have a good amount of deaths without many people we like and no dying. I don't really understand why they killed the two women that we like that they did, but I guess they had to kill somebody. I always thought mean it was kind of hot. Fuck it, if anybody is reading this damn it they deserve to get spoiled lol

But yeah, I didn't recognize Alpha either. I mean I knew it was somebody from The Whispers but I just didn't realize it was her. Even when it showed her walking up to Henry without the wig, it still didn't look like her.

If Dog dies we riot! I have a feeling though that's the only reason they put him on the show though :-(

[Sculpt]

Jeez Sculpt, I said the woman so it wouldn't spoil anything for those who haven't watched it yet but never mind haha. I think with Maggie, they are acting like they don't know where she's at because supposedly Lauren Cohan needed a break from the show. I think they still could have given her a story as to why she isn't there rather than everybody just saying she's gone. But yeah, if anybody thinks they are going to take that shit lying down and they are mistaken. I mean Negan killed Glenn and Abraham out of Revenge for the group killing some saviors. The Whispers started this by Killing Jesus but all of this happened because they wouldn't give Lidia back. No one, especially Carol of all people, is going to let this go.

But yeah, I'm glad they cut down this cast. I'm guessing that's why they brought all of them on there so they could have a good amount of deaths without many people we like and no dying. I don't really understand why they killed the two women that we like that they did, but I guess they had to kill somebody. I always thought mean it was kind of hot. Fuck it, if anybody is reading this damn it they deserve to get spoiled lol

But yeah, I didn't recognize Alpha either. I mean I knew it was somebody from The Whispers but I just didn't realize it was her. Even when it showed her walking up to Henry without the wig, it still didn't look like her.

If Dog dies we riot! I have a feeling though that's the only reason they put him on the show though :-(
SPOILERS

I don't think saying Alpha was at the Fair is a super spoiler. But ya, avid watchers don't tend to read TWD forum posts when there's new ep they haven't seen. Folks are more worried about the comic readers revealing key reveals that haven't come out in the currents eps.

All the leaders agreed an attack on any of the Communities is an attack on all, and that they need to respond.

For some reason they killed Jesus, rather than just following them. Not sure why the Whisperers did that. It's a story reveal, but seems like a plot hole... why would the Whisperers do that? They don't get anything out of it.

[Morningriser]

They picked the perfect time to make that pact and sign that decree, didn't they? But yeah, even if they didn't, Carol would go on her own after them if she had to. I think we are going to see some more deaths Sunday but somehow I have a feeling they are going to let Negan come out and play ball at the very end just to get the fans excited for next season. I don't really know much about the comics other than just the key things I see others talking about on Facebook but I saw the pictures of Alphas demise and if they do it that way it's going to be awesome. I love the picture of Negan saying wait until he gets a look at you.

I also just realized how badly I butchered the text in that last message and I'm really going to have to start keeping an eye on that. I was trying to say I thought Enid I was kind of hot. Also, I forget their names, but the two guys that played music that got killed, I didn't think they would last all that long anyway because the idea that they were carrying around all these instruments with them during the zombie apocalypse, just seemed a bit dumb and naive. I can respect why they wanted to do it but natural selection will always win. I am not trying to call them stupid but at the same time I'm not exactly calling them wise man either haha. I'm anxious to see how they're going to end the season.

[cheebacheeba]

but the two guys that played music that got killed,

Who, the guys that were on stage for the pre-movie thing at the trade fair?
I don't think they got killed.
There was a bearded guy there on the pikes, but I took that to be the "leader" of the highwaymen they made a transport/protection deal with - because in the flashback you see them rushing in and fighting with the fallen.

Gotta say I'm glad this was one of the times that followed the map, but not exactly.

So, what do we think happened with the baby the old chick was looking after?

[Morningriser]

Yeah, you're right. Most of the men that were up there were The Highwaymen. It's a shame because I thought they were pretty cool and I was hoping they would have done something more with them. And I didn't necessarily mean I wanted the two musicians to die, I just felt like they didn't take the zombie apocalypse serious enough to be hardcore survivalists like the others who have been around for a while.

Speaking of the leader of The Highwaymen though, did anyone else notice for a brief moment it seems that he turned Tara straight? She gave him the fuck me eyes when he saved her life.

[Morningriser]

::big grin::::big grin::::big grin::

[Morningriser]

Season finale was meh. I think last week's episode would have made a much better finale. I did miss the radio thing at the end though, what was that? Was it Rick?

Also, despite what she's doing, I think Lydia is still working with her mother. Everything she is doing to look like she wants to kill herself is when she knows people are watching. Last night when Carol swung at the Walker behind her, Lydia didn't know the Walker was behind her but she ducked anyway. I think she's just a hell of an actress. I mean as nuts as her mother is, she would have killed her right then and there at the fair if she wanted to. I mean Lydia has been to all three of the main communities now and knows the whole layout of everything. Also, if she really wanted to get bit by that Walker last night she would have. Mark my words, it's an act.

[Morningriser]

Okay I went back and listen to it again. That is definitely not Rick, it's a female voice. On The Walking Dead Facebook page I'm hearing about a new group that supposed to come about soon called The Commonwealth which is apparently a community in Ohio with over 50,000 people in it. Something tells me Rick is there and will return if not next season than season 11.

[cheebacheeba]

I'm hearing about a new group that supposed to come about soon called The Commonwealth which is apparently a community in Ohio with over 50,000 people in it. Something tells me Rick is there and will return if not next season than season 11.

I don't think the Commonwealth will be for a while, just based on the comics.
I couldn't tell what was being said...I assumed it was Maggie?

Yeah the finale was...uneventful...

[Morningriser]

It was depressing as fuck! But like I said though, and I really, really hope I'm wrong about this, for Carol's sake, but I honestly think Lydia is playing them. And as far as I'm concerned, Ezekiel can go to hell. Why is the fuck would he say that to Daryl? He knows it wasn't his fault about what happened. He knows how much Daryl means to Carol. Was he referring to him and Lidia or just him? I take it as Daryl is taking her on is his responsibility now. Somehow I wonder if they are going to hook up. How fucking sad would it be if the first time Daryl fell in love with someone she double-crossed him? That would be brutal.

tKEcRzflDNU

All I could make out was hello at the very beginning and is anybody out there at the end. Everything else was way too scrambled and I don't think it was meant to be known what was said. It was a woman's voice though and unless it's a new character, my guess is it is either Maggie or Jadis. Despite not being able to make out the words, the tone in the voice reminds me more of Jadis then Maggie. But now that I know about the Commonwealth and so many people are talking about them, I wonder if that is where Jadis took Rick to. I know it will still be a while before everything is finished with the whispers, And I hope it ends like it does in the comics, but I wouldn't expect that to be over with until at least the end of next season, around this time next year, or perhaps even beyond that, but Rick will be coming back soon I'm sure. Besides, I heard that Melissa McBride just signed a seven-year contract supposedly. The queen isn't going anywhere just yet. It is kind of hard to believe that the shows going to be around at least that much longer.

Wouldn't it be some shit if it turned out Rick and Jadis hooked up? That would be a pretty awkward reunion...

[Sculpt]

Not a good episode. Especially for a finale.

Rather slow and boring, and so many plot holes and head scratchers.

Negan and Lilith -
WTF happened to Negan's leg? Looked like the wind blew hard and what??? blew a saw blade off the ground that cut open his leg? ::big grin:: Yeah, happens to me all the time.

I get they wanted the scene where Michonne goes to Negan where he's alone on a bed injured being sewn up by the doctor... instead of re-chained somewhere in a group. But why not just have Negan get cut by some razor wire cause of low visibility in the blowing snow?

I don't think Negan would be the only person to go after Lilith. And it was all inside Alexandria's walls... they were just going from one house to another... ooh, scary!

And they had just shown Rosita insisted Negan stay chained... why didn't the episode show when and why they took off his chains? Could have been much needed funny compelling scene. Cause he didn't have them on going after Lilith. What am I missing? ::roll eyes::

Did Negan really have to lay both his coats on Lilith? Isn't that letting the sap boil over a little too much?

[Sculpt]

Different subject. Um... why exactly is the Kingdom being abandoned in the middle of winter during a harsh winter storm? ::confused::

Very cold weather may be unusual for Virginia, but the Kingdom has been through many winters. We heard they were low in supplies, part of the reason for the Fair, but from experience they'd know before winter if they have enough...

If it's food, why leave to the Hilltop in winter? They can't help plant crops in the winter. It's just a matter of food transport. They never said Hilltop was building housing for them in the fall... so they wouldn't have the space to house them.

What'd the episode say? They left because the water pipes broke down and there was rot? What rot? That insidious 'spontaneous winter rot'? They may have been pumping water, somehow, from a stream, but the water is still there. People melt ice to drink. Piping and rot is not a reason to leave in the middle of winter. Move in the spring.

Maybe they expect the cold to leave Virginia quickly, where they can build housing and clear more area for spring planting... but they don't say as much. What did I miss? ::confused::

[Morningriser]

Not a good episode. Especially for a finale.
Negan and Lilith -
WTF happened to Negan's leg? Looked like the wind blew hard and what??? blew a saw blade off the ground that cut open his leg? ::big grin:: Yeah, happens to me all the time.

He tripped over something because the snow was falling so thick, he couldn't see and he fell and hurt his leg that way.


I get they wanted the scene where Michonne goes to Negan where he's alone on a bed injured being sewn up by the doctor... instead of re-chained somewhere in a group. But why not just have Negan get cut by some razor wire cause of low visibility in the blowing snow?

Negan had the chance to Kill Them All, but he didn't. He saved Judith's life, and the fact that the two of them had a bond with each other scared me Shone to death, so the relief in knowing that he saved her daughter, earned him a lot of brownie points with her, and as far as why he wasn't chained up, they are giving him the benefit of the doubt and seeing if they can actually trust him.

I don't think Negan would be the only person to go after Lilith. And Lilith would have traveled with Michonne.

Michonne knew that Judith would be safer at Alexandria, rather than traveling through that weather with the whisperers about and the fact that she is a small child and unable to handle that weather compared to an adult. As far as why only Negan went, I don't know, I missed that part.

And they had just shown Rosita insisted Negan stay chained... why didn't the episode show when and why they took off his chains? Could have been much needed funny compelling scene. Cause he didn't have them on going after Lilith. What am I missing? ::roll eyes::

Negan asked if his chains could be removed after having some laughs with Gabriel and Rosita. Rosita actually encouraged Gabriel to remove his chains, rather than wanting him to keep them on. They both realized he wasn't going to hurt them and wanted to give him a chance.

And little spitfire Lilith can't walk anymore because why, fatigue? And did Negan really have to lay both his coats on Lilith? Isn't that letting the sap boil over a little too much?

Negan cares about Judith. Judith ran off because Dog got spooked and ran away. Judith being Judith, went after him. They are in Virginia right next to DC, not in Georgia. Every so often there is a freak blizzard that comes through Virginia, even that far east. Judith is a little girl also, small children get a lot colder a lot faster than adults do and she was probably so cold she couldn't move, which is why Negan put both of his coats on her, to keep her warm and from going into hypothermia before he could get her to safety.

Negan is not a bad guy. If the show followed him and the savior's from the beginning, we would have cheered him on as he killed Glenn and Abraham, especially considering that the group struck the savior's first by killing them in their sleep. What was Negan supposed to do? What would Rick's group have done if the savior's came out of nowhere and killed a bunch of their people in their sleep?

Over all this time Negan and Judith have built quite a strong bond with each other. He cares a lot about her because he respects the hell out of her father and brother.

Different subject. Um... why exactly is the Kingdom being abandoned in the middle of winter during a harsh winter storm? ::confused::

A number of reasons, bad memories for Ezekiel and Carol, fear that The Whispers will strike again, and the kingdom isn't equipped to accommodate that many people in those conditions. Its nose almost every winter in Virginia and gets cold, but a blizzard like that only happens once every 15 years or so. I don't think they anticipated on a blizzard like that.

What'd the episode say? They left because the water pipes broke down and there was rot? What rot? That insidious 'spontaneous winter rot'? They may have been pumping water, somehow, from a stream, but the water is still there. People melt ice to drink. Piping and rot is not a reason to leave in the middle of winter. Move in the spring.

The only mention of the water pipes or rot I ever saw was when Henry left Lydia. The noise made him think that the pipes busted, which they might very well have, thanks to The Whispers I'm sure. As far as rot goes, Henry mint that if water starts leaking that it will rot or mildew anything around the pipes that is perishable.

Maybe they expect the cold to leave Georgia quickly, where they can build housing and clear more area for spring planting... but they don't say as much. What did I miss? ::confused::

The longest blizzards like that last in that area are only a few days or so, but it can take at least a month or two for all of the snow to melt. Back in 2012 when I was living in Central Virginia, we had a blizzard like that and ended up with four feet of snow. Where I lived was only about two and a half hours from Alexandria. Winters are unpredictable in Virginia, so I think they were anticipating on having an average winter, but everything got out of control and they are just trying to take the best action they can given the elements and the threat of another Whisperer attack.

[Sculpt]

You're using a speak-to-text app, aren't you? Is that new? How you liking it?

I just noticed today reading your last few posts. I can tell because you've posted a few synonyms, like "Henry mint that if water starts leaking,". You wouldn't accidentally type mint for meant.

I forgot they moved to Virginia. I just remembered when they left Atlanta.

He tripped over something because the snow was falling so thick, he couldn't see and he fell and hurt his leg that way.
Anyways... I watched it again. In Alexandria the Negan group was just going from one house to another inside Alexandria's walls. Of course Lilith wasn't with Michonne. It was late when I watch it, I think I thought they were another group traveling to Hilltop. ::embarrassment::

Also, I just watch it... They show a couple 'things' blowing by Negan, and then something that looks like a hunk of wood with a sharp side blows into Negan's leg, he yelps in pain and goes down. He definitely doesn't hurt his leg when he falls. It's quite ridiculous really. They could have had something blow into his face and him fall and cut his leg on something on the ground, but they don't. ::big grin::

Negan asked if his chains could be removed after having some laughs with Gabriel and Rosita. Rosita actually encouraged Gabriel to remove his chains, rather than wanting him to keep them on. They both realized he wasn't going to hurt them and wanted to give him a chance.
The bold type was not in the version I saw. After Rosita denies the request and says, "we can just tell Michonne we found you dead', there were no conversations about removing his chains.

The only mention of the water pipes or rot I ever saw was when Henry left Lydia. The noise made him think that the pipes busted, which they might very well have, thanks to The Whispers I'm sure. As far as rot goes, Henry mint that if water starts leaking that it will rot or mildew anything around the pipes that is perishable.
It's the first scene of ep 16, Ezekiel is talking into a radio mic saying 'the cold set in and fires raged' while they show the pipes bursting water, 'the rot spread' and they're showing rusty pipes and then show a crack inside of their house, not where the pipes were breaking, and they don't show any fires. Those pipes, where ever it was, doesn't cause rot in other houses. So it was pretty willy nilly.

[Morningriser]

Yeah I use Text-to-Speech because of my eyes. It's really hard on me trying to type a bunch and I know my auto-correct butchers what I say. I go back and try to fix things but I know I miss a lot and I know it has to be an eyesore for some people. I apologize for the annoyance.

I must have missed a lot then. I was thinking Rosita said something other than dead, like if Michonne caught him, they would say something in his favor, I guess I misheard.

Anyway, yeah it was weird. I still think Lydia is playing them. If she wanted that Walker to bite her, she would have let it. Then when she begged Carol to kill her, she had no idea there was a walker behind her oh, so assuming Carol was swinging at her, Lydia ducked to miss the blow. I'm worried she's going to do something to get Daryl to fall in love with her and either kill him or break his heart worse than it has ever been broken. I think if Lydia truly turned against her mother, Alpha would have killed her at the fair, but she didn't. The way they were talking to each other made me believe it was staged. I think the sadness we saw from alpha last week when she killed one of her own for not obeying her orders, was just her fear of Lydia being with the Enemy. I mean Alpha told Daryl, "I don't think you can take care of my daughter, but I hope I'm wrong", why would she care otherwise? Alpha may be a monster, but she loves her daughter dearly. After doing what they just did to the others, I think it made her more fearful for her daughter's safety which made her emotional, which explains why she had Alpha whip the merciless hell out of her, because in her mind pain is discipline.

Unless Ezekiel was mostly referring to Lydia, I want to know why in the hell he said what he did to Daryl, knowing Carol would never stand for that. I mean if it is because of Lydia, I totally understand, especially if I'm right about my theory. Ezekiel is smarter than he lets on, but I still think that was a really shitty thing of him to say. I mean even if he told Daryl if he got rid of Lydia he could come with them, I think that would have made more sense. Darryl almost died trying to find Sophie... shouldn't that mean something to Ezekiel, even if Sophie wasn't his daughter and he never got to meet her?

Also, something else to add to my theory, Enid and the girl with the glasses on the pikes were random. I realize the old woman and Frankie were random as well, but I think but I think it was to mask the fact that the two women who came and found Henry and Lydia, were two of the women that were beheaded. It sucks about Tara, but she would be considered the most important skill in terms of the ranks in the communities. I believe her death was intentional just like Enid and the girl with the glasses. I hate that's all we get from The Highwaymen. I was kind of looking forward to see what they were going to do.

[Morningriser]

I'm assuming this is Photoshop, but it's badass and whoever made it did a great job!

[Sculpt]

Anyway, yeah it was weird. I still think Lydia is playing them. If she wanted that Walker to bite her, she would have let it. Then when she begged Carol to kill her, she had no idea there was a walker behind her oh, so assuming Carol was swinging at her, Lydia ducked to miss the blow. I'm worried she's going to do something to get Daryl to fall in love with her and either kill him or break his heart worse than it has ever been broken. I think if Lydia truly turned against her mother, Alpha would have killed her at the fair, but she didn't. The way they were talking to each other made me believe it was staged. I think the sadness we saw from alpha last week when she killed one of her own for not obeying her orders, was just her fear of Lydia being with the Enemy. I mean Alpha told Daryl, "I don't think you can take care of my daughter, but I hope I'm wrong", why would she care otherwise? Alpha may be a monster, but she loves her daughter dearly. After doing what they just did to the others, I think it made her more fearful for her daughter's safety which made her emotional, which explains why she had Alpha whip the merciless hell out of her, because in her mind pain is discipline.

Unless Ezekiel was mostly referring to Lydia, I want to know why in the hell he said what he did to Daryl, knowing Carol would never stand for that. I mean if it is because of Lydia, I totally understand, especially if I'm right about my theory. Ezekiel is smarter than he lets on, but I still think that was a really shitty thing of him to say. I mean even if he told Daryl if he got rid of Lydia he could come with them, I think that would have made more sense. Darryl almost died trying to find Sophie... shouldn't that mean something to Ezekiel, even if Sophie wasn't his daughter and he never got to meet her?
I don't think Lydia is playing them for one reason: the scene in the Kingdom where Lydia tells her mom she belongs with the Community people. Those two are alone -- thus they weren't doing a performance, it's how Lydia really feels.

That's not to say Lydia isn't traumatized and can't be manipulated at a future date, but she wasn't going to any happier with her mom after she killed Henry.

I've seen men, like Ezekiel, say that to friends before. Men are like that. They'll step on your face to keep their woman. Zeke knows Lydia reminds Carol of Henry, but so does Zeke, and maybe Daryl too. So he figures Daryl knows he's talking code about Lydia, cause Daryl would have to take her with him. And that's exactly what Daryl offered to Carol. No dice for Zeke. But Carol has a history of adopting kids just like Lydia, so that's what's gonna happen.

[Morningriser]

Those are some really good points actually. Alpha is a very strange character. Unlike with Negan and the savior's, The Whispers started all this when they killed Jesus and then kill the others after beta and some of the other Whispers went after Daryl and Henry and Lydia. They never had a reason to kill anyone.

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So then there is this... it sounds like a female voice, but it could be the voice of a light voiced male. As for females, it could either be Maggie, Jadis or someone from Commonwealth. Whoever it was didn't sound like they were in distress, and I wonder, even though Ezekiel left the room, there's a chance Judith could have heard that or whoever has the 3rd radio could have also heard it by chance. Eugene made three of them but since the kingdom was abandoned and have moved to Hilltop, they probably have two radios with Alexandria having one, unless Eugene has it.

[Sculpt]

Those are some really good points actually. Alpha is a very strange character. Unlike with Negan and the savior's, The Whispers started all this when they killed Jesus and then kill the others after beta and some of the other Whispers went after Daryl and Henry and Lydia. They never had a reason to kill anyone.

tKEcRzflDNU

So then there is this... it sounds like a female voice, but it could be the voice of a light voiced male. As for females, it could either be Maggie, Jadis or someone from Commonwealth. Whoever it was didn't sound like they were in distress, and I wonder, even though Ezekiel left the room, there's a chance Judith could have heard that or whoever has the 3rd radio could have also heard it by chance. Eugene made three of them but since the kingdom was abandoned and have moved to Hilltop, they probably have two radios with Alexandria having one, unless Eugene has it.
Yeah, sounds like Maggie and Jadis. Could be the Commonwealth I heard about from the comics, but I think it's too soon for that. I mean, what's the point of trying to spin Georgie's group, the Helo-people, Whisperers and Commonwealth all at the same time? But whatevs ::big grin::

[Morningriser]

Considering the Commonwealth is in Ohio and such a size that it holds 50,000 people, that's probably where Rick and Jadis are at, but Maggie I have no damn clue. I wouldn't think even if they did come into the show, our group would leave yet. There's still plenty of story left with the Whispers And even though ezekiel's head wasn't on one of those Pikes, it doesn't mean his death couldn't be soon, or even Rosita for that matter. Since she is pregnant and they are trying to cut the numbers down a little anyway, I could see the two of them both dying soon, kind of like how Abraham died by negan's hands rather than the arrow through the eye like Denise on the show did. Who knows though?

[Morningriser]

The next season of The Walking Dead has been announced for June!

[hammerfan]

The next season of The Walking Dead has been announced for June!

I'm pretty sure that's Fear the Walking Dead

[MichaelMyers]

They cancelled the comic. Will the show be far behind?

[hammerfan]

They cancelled the comic. Will the show be far behind?

I read recently that the plan is to go 10 seasons

[Sculpt]

Last ep, ep 6 Bonds, best ep in a long time! Jeffrey Dean Morgan goes full blitz Negan. Thoroughly entertaining.

[cheebacheeba]

In regards to the timeline progression vs the comic...while some things have gone purely in their own direction and a few of the characters that have died/lived haven't always matched their comic counterparts - there's enough basic points that have ran somewhat parallel that I think I can answer this, just about anyway.

It won't be long - When Eugene made contact with the mystery chick on the radio...well going by the comic she belongs to...something something something...that leads to....something something something....that is basically the last challenge/hurdle/threat that was seen to have faced the group prior to the ending of the comic.

So it was the whisperers, then not much until the storyline that leads to the end.

[Sculpt]

I stopped reading you post... Does your post have "spoilers" from the comic? Since no doubt some things come from the comic, I don't want to read about anything in the comic that might be on the way on the TV show.

[cheebacheeba]

I've said nothing specific. I don't think so anyway.
But to make sure if you don't wanna read what I said, more barebones: In the comic, there was only really one arc/storyline after the whisperers.

[Sculpt]

I've said nothing specific. I don't think so anyway.
But to make sure if you don't wanna read what I said, more barebones: In the comic, there was only really one arc/storyline after the whisperers.
::big grin:: On another forum site someone suggested what they thought was going to happen next based on them reading the comic, and they put it in a spoiler format, so you had to click to read the spoiler. I thought what the heck and read it. It said the whispering walkers were probably The Whisperers, and what they were. Turned out he was right ::big grin::, and it actually ruined the suspense and fun for me. I wished I hadn't read it. So I'm trying to be smarter staying away from the comic info about what might in the future TV shows.

[cheebacheeba]

If you're talking about the future shows in the franchise, like FTWD and whatever this one with the younger folks in it is...they are all seperate from the comics.

[HorrorFan4Ever]

I read recently that the plan is to go 10 seasons


It's already in their 10 season now havd to see what happens

[Sculpt]

If you're talking about the future shows in the franchise, like FTWD and whatever this one with the younger folks in it is...they are all seperate from the comics.
I mean TWD. It's the only one I'm watching. I saw a couple of FTWD, but it seemed much too episodic.

So the comics have ended? And there's one more arc unused in it? Maybe there will be another comic... Or hopefully the writers are smart enough to write some new arcs.

[sackheaded]

Anyone watching The Walking Dead: World Beyond?

[cheebacheeba]

We started the first episode.
Probably look at more. It seems ok, but maybe only one of the characters actually grabbed me.
Kind of came out as a surprise to me as I hadn't been following it, and all of a sudden there it is on Amazon.