The Male Movie Villains Tournament

[neverending]

Erik......

[AUSTIN316426808]

The Phantom

[massacre man]

Damnit. I can't let Hans get shut out.

Hans Gruber.

[roshiq]

Hans Gruber

[Paul the Monk]

Phantom of the Opera.

[ChronoGrl]

Erik (The Phantom of the Opera)

[Doc Faustus]

Phantom of the Opera

[Geddy]

Erik.......

[Bub the Zombie]

Erik (The Phantom of the Opera)

[_____V_____]

Erik, The Phantom of the Opera, waltzes all over Hans Gruber and scores a resoundingly easy 9-2 win to secure the last Semi-Final spot!


...which roll out next...

[_____V_____]

SEMI - FINAL #1



Norman Bates (Psycho)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x225/LiViJoNeS/Norman%20Bates/Psycho_313.jpg




vs.




Angel Eyes aka Il Cattivo (The Good, The Bad and The Ugly)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/sistercuervo/70893-lee-van-cleef.jpg




First to 10 wins.

[Doc Faustus]

Il Cattivo.

[ChronoGrl]

Angel Eyes.

[The_Return]

Lee Van Cleef

[Paul the Monk]

Angel Eyes.

[alkytrio666]

Norman Bates.

[newb]

Angel Eyes aka Il Cattivo (The Good, The Bad and The Ugly)

Norman was just.........misunderstood

[AUSTIN316426808]

Angel Eyes

[Dante'sInferno]

Angel Eyes

[The Flayed One]

Angel Eyes

[The Mothman]

Angel Eyes.

[GorePhobia]

Angel Eyes for me as well.

[Painfulldeath]

Angel Eyes

[alkytrio666]

I'm surprised this is so one-sided. I mean, Angel Eyes is a pretty badass villian , but Norman Bates is the psycho to end all psychos.

[_____V_____]

Angel Eyes scores a huge and whopping 11-1 win over Norman Bates to blast his way into the Final!

The other S-F up next...

[_____V_____]

SEMI - FINAL #2



Erik (The Phantom of the Opera)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c118/Sanninluv/1219662179898.jpg




vs.




The Joker (The Dark Knight)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/StormSikkness/Joker/Joker-7.jpg




First to 10 wins.

[The_Return]

Jesus-fucking-Christ on a cracker.....

I have to stick to my guns and go with The Joker...Erik was just evil because of his shitty situation - Joker's evil for the sheer fun of it. And, IMO, that's both scarier and more entertaining to watch.

Sorry Lon...

[Dante'sInferno]

Jesus-fucking-Christ on a cracker.....

I have to stick to my guns and go with The Joker...Erik was just evil because of his shitty situation - Joker's evil for the sheer fun of it. And, IMO, that's both scarier and more entertaining to watch.

Sorry Lon...Agreed!......

[massacre man]

I agree with Return.

The Joker.

[The Flayed One]

The Joker. He is evil just because there is evil to be had. I don't even know if he considers it fun; he is just bad for the sake of bad.

Most villains have a reason. Whether they were abused as a child, some kind of gain or vengeance. Even most religious villains have valid reasons. The Joker needs no reason. As far as we know, he is what he is for no other good reason than he knows nothing else. He wasn't raised or even born that way; he doesn't do what he does because that's all that's inside him, or he hasn't been taught another way. He is chaos incarnate. There is no other way for him to be. You can't change a rock into an orange. The Joker is evil because he is evil. There is no other way for him to be, nor has there ever been. Heaths award winning performance aside, the character itself embodies the epitome of what bad is. He's not the biggest bastard in the world, like Tim Roth's character in Rob Roy. He's not a completely vile killer like Henry. He's just evil in every single aspect of the word with no excuse and no redeeming qualities.

[ChronoGrl]

The Joker. He is evil just because there is evil to be had. I don't even know if he considers it fun; he is just bad for the sake of bad.

Most villains have a reason. Whether they were abused as a child, some kind of gain or vengeance. Even most religious villains have valid reasons. The Joker needs no reason. As far as we know, he is what he is for no other good reason than he knows nothing else. He wasn't raised or even born that way; he doesn't do what he does because that's all that's inside him, or he hasn't been taught another way. He is chaos incarnate. There is no other way for him to be. You can't change a rock into an orange. The Joker is evil because he is evil. There is no other way for him to be, nor has there ever been. Heaths award winning performance aside, the character itself embodies the epitome of what bad is. He's not the biggest bastard in the world, like Tim Roth's character in Rob Roy. He's not a completely vile killer like Henry. He's just evil in every single aspect of the word with no excuse and no redeeming qualities.

I think you make a good argument, Wolfie, but I disagree with you on some points and I'm going to have to go with Erik on this one.

With Erik, he is a pure tragic figure. He did not choose his fate; his fate was written upon him on birth and he spent an entire life of dejection, finding solitude within the old Opera House. While the Joker has the choice to live amongst the citizens of Gotham, he chooses not to; for Erik, he is a pure outcast, reaching into the depths of his black soul for any way that he can possibly overpower his foes - through haunting, through extortion - so much more subtle than our Joker friend; no need for pomp and pizazz in his evil doings. He is a Villainous Icon though the annuls of cinema and literary history... Portrayed by thespian icons from Lon Chaney to Claude Rains - The Joker is just a fad - a passing phase bolstered by the single surprising performance of a young up-and-coming Aussie (God rest his soul)... But Erik - The Phantom is eternal.

[neverending]

Erik.........

[roshiq]

....The Joker

[AUSTIN316426808]

The Joker.

[The_Return]

...The Joker is just a fad - a passing phase bolstered by the single surprising performance of a young up-and-coming Aussie (God rest his soul)

Yeah...aside from the fact that he's been going strong for the better part of a century.

[Geddy]

Erik......

[Paul the Monk]

The Joker!!

[massacre man]

- The Joker is just a fad - a passing phase bolstered by the single surprising performance of a young up-and-coming Aussie (God rest his soul)

He's been around and popular since 1940...

[hammerfan]

The Joker.

[ferretchucker]

The Joker. I haven't watched The Phantom of the Opera.

[ChronoGrl]

Yeah...aside from the fact that he's been going strong for the better part of a century.

He's been around and popular since 1940...

Yes, but I'm trying to make the point that that it was Heath Ledger's iconic last performance that really bolstered his new level of pop villainy. In terms of Male Villains, I don't think that The Joker would be going as strong in this tournament if it wasn't for The Dark Knight.

Not to belittle The Joker at all - He's one my absolute favorite comic book villains and he is iconic within the annuls of comic book and comic book adaptation culture. I just think that Ledger's performance gives the Joker character a significant advantage over Erik... So a counter argument had to be made.

That or I just like being argumentative. :D

[Azazel005]

Oooooh, Interesting. While I certainly agree the strength of Ledger's performance may lend him an unfair advantage, and also that I love the phantom very much, I think I have to stress against him above the Joker, certainly in terms of a greater "villian".

Phantom is a wonderful character and carries his tale more or less as both the Hero and Villian, we suffer for him as much as we fear him. Christine's rejection of him is as much understood as resented, that in some ways makes him a stronger character then the Joker but not a stronger villian.

The Joker is incomprehensible, it his multiple incarnations such as Ledger's performance and the almost as Iconic Mark Hammil voiced animated Joker. Don't be fooled the Joker in his more modern comic book forms if far more frightening then any of those. They all lend a sort of cuteness to his vicous madness, something that the real Joker would probably find them, and hang them on a noose out the front of their parents house before blowing it up.

He is mad, but he is vicous and unpredictable to a fault, people have allied themselves with him knowing full well he was not to be trusted and still walk away horrified at the lengths he'd go for his own sick amusement. The Joker has none of the fluffy charms of his film and animated conterparts, well perhaps a little but they are so far muddle in his extreme sadism and vicousness that you simply can't relate or emphasise with him at all, ever not in your wildest dreams. If you thought you could trust me, in all these years he would have found away to disturb you so much that you wouldn't dare.

Of course this is Movie Villians, which means we have Nicholsons Jokes, and Ledger's both wonderful characters vs Claude Raines and Gerard Butler's Phantoms, the latter who is projected much more heriocially.

Raines was good, but I don't think either of them much Jack or Heath's Joker.

Joker for me.

[Despare]

I'm usually the first Joker detractor (I like the character just fine and love both Jack's and Heath's performances in recent films but I just think he's far from the best villain of all time) but Erik was too sympathetic a figure in my eyes. My vote goes to the laughing man.

[_____V_____]

The Joker scores a huge and comprehensive 11-3 win over Erik The Phantom to blast his way into the Finals!!

...which comes next...

[_____V_____]

THE FINAL



Coming into the Final by beating...

Albert Spica (The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover),
Michael Myers (Halloween series),
Keyser Soze (The Usual Suspects),
Dr Frank N Furter (The Rocky Horror Picture Show),
Anton Chigurh (No Country For Old Men),
Darth Vader (Star Wars series), and
Erik (The Phantom of the Opera)


Ladies and Gentlemen...


The first Finalist,


THE JOKER (The Dark Knight)

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/StormSikkness/Joker/Joker-7.jpg






vs.






Coming into the Final by beating...

George Stark (The Dark Half),
Salieri (Amadeus),
Johnny Ringo (Tombstone),
Damien Thorn (The Omen),
Frank (Once Upon A Time In The West),
SS Officer Amon Goeth (Schindler's List), and
Norman Bates (Psycho)


Ladies and Gentlemen...


The Second Finalist,


ANGEL EYES aka IL CATTIVO (The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/sistercuervo/70893-lee-van-cleef.jpg




The voting begins NOW, and is open for the next 48 Hours.

The leader then will be the winner of the tournament and crowned THE GREATEST MOVIE VILLAIN OF ALL TIME!!

[Despare]

Angel Eyes

[illdojo]

:confused: Fuck it!!!! The Joker

[Azazel005]

Irony is a funny thing, to think I expressed the strength of Joker's case given the people he defeated. I'd definetely argue that he didn't deserve to get this far against some of the competition he has foiled... alas... at least I get to vote for the final!

Angel Eyes.

[hammerfan]

The Joker.

[ChronoGrl]

Angel Eyes would definitely give the Joker a run for his money... And probably shoot 'em dead.

Angel Eyes.

[hammerfan]

Maybe. But the Joker would show him how to make a pencil disappear! :D

[Dante'sInferno]

The Joker...

[Paul the Monk]

Angel Eyes! Joker would have a bullet between his eyes even before he broke into a sneer.
"When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!":D

[Bub the Zombie]

Angel Eyes

[Zero]

Joker -

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

[ferretchucker]

The Joker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[alkytrio666]

A-EEY-A-EEY-A!

Angel Eyes baby.

[massacre man]

The Joker!

[_____V_____]

Angel Eyes and The Joker are all tied up at 6-6 each!!

Keep em coming, folks...still plenty of time to the deadline...this is a cracker of a final!

[The Mothman]

Fuck the joker, Angel Eyes!
When he's paid, he always follows his job though. his job being kicking the joker ass.

[Freak]

The Joker..........

[The_Raven]

Angel Eyes. A true villain is forever, not overnight hype.

[massacre man]

A true villain is forever, not overnight hype.

The Joker's been around about 26 years longer than Angel Eyes.

[roshiq]

Now that's a final! The toughest match of the tourney.:cool:

As both of them are my favorites and currently The Joker is behind by only a single vote...so I like to dedicate my vote to him....The Agent of Chaos!

[Painfulldeath]

Angel Eyes!!!

[The_Return]

Do I even have to vote?

Angel Eyes is badass to be sure...there's no question about that. But compared to the physical manifestation of chaos and carnage, the Clown Prince of Crime...fuck it, he doesn't have a chance.

[kpropain]

Angel Eyes

[_____V_____]

Angel Eyes hangs on to a very slender 10-9 lead over The Joker!

More votes needed to decide this cliffhanger of a Final...keep em coming!!

[mikeyjay88]

The joker.

[Geddy]

Angel Eyes.

[_____V_____]

Calling this 15 mins early...


Ladies and Gentlemen,

By beating the much fancied JOKER from 2008's blockbuster The Dark Knight by the closest of margins 11-10...

THE WINNER OF THE MALE MOVIE VILLAINS TOURNAMENT

IS



ANGEL EYES (aka) IL CATTIVO

[[[ from the movie THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY ]]]

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b365/sistercuervo/70893-lee-van-cleef.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x110/pkwwoman/LeeVanCleef.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/kosherzombie/4eeca187.jpg

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q338/CRELP169/good_the_bad_and_the_ugly.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x229/ligui/TheGoodThebadandTheugly06.jpg



Thanks, dear voters, for making this tournament another highly successful one. Thanks a lot to Despare, Return, Alky, Vod and every one else whose inputs I used throughout the tourney. And above all, thanks a lot to each and every HDC voter who took some time out and cast their votes to make this yet another successful venture.

Till the next one...Ciao, folks!!



********************************* TOURNAMENT CLOSED *********************************

[massacre man]

2007's blockbuster The Dark Knight

:confused:

[The_Return]

Well, even though my guy lost...at least he lost to a worthy opponent...

Congrats on another badass tournament _V_ - I daresay this was one of the best yet!

[The Mothman]

Hell yeah! my favorite villain of my favorite film.

[Zero]

i think the next tourney should be types of underwear - i'm betting on tighty-whities!