View Full Version : PG-13 horror movies
Lord RawK
04-14-2008, 07:51 PM
who else finds pg-13 horror movies to be fraudulent. i'm sure there are some cases where a movie can be okay but any time a true horror movie is censored down and geared towards such a broad audience i think it takes away from the authenticity of it. generalizing isn't always a good thing but can anybody come up with examples of a good one? (modern terms not black and white classics)
neverending
04-14-2008, 08:12 PM
Poltergeist.
Rated R originally, they appealed and it was re-rated PG.
neverending
04-14-2008, 08:18 PM
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978)
Lord RawK
04-14-2008, 08:18 PM
i always try to give poltergeist a clean slate and i never can get myself to like it. at least i attempt though. i don't know why either.
valid point. it definitely is one of the exceptions to the rule. ironic how it was rated r initially.
X¤MurderDoll¤X
04-14-2008, 08:36 PM
i always try to give poltergeist a clean slate and i never can get myself to like it. at least i attempt though. i don't know why either.
valid point. it definitely is one of the exceptions to the rule. ironic how it was rated r initially.
how is it ironic?
fortunato
04-14-2008, 08:37 PM
picnic at hanging rock is rated PG and while it's not all-out "horror," it's certainly one of the most terrifying movies i've ever seen. maybe not at first, it really gets under your skin and stays there.
Lord RawK
04-14-2008, 08:41 PM
poltergeist is known for being a classic horror movie. personally most horror movies that i find worthy tend to be rated r. not necessarily but for the most part. the fact that it was initially rated r is ironic because it is one of the classics and many might assume it's rated r when it isn't.
neverending
04-14-2008, 09:24 PM
The 6th Sense
neverending
04-14-2008, 09:25 PM
1408.....................
Elvis_Christ
04-15-2008, 12:44 AM
Blood and Black Lace was rated PG-13 and its really fucked up. Hammer smashed face, incest....
Posher778
04-15-2008, 03:35 AM
poltergeist is known for being a classic horror movie. personally most horror movies that i find worthy tend to be rated r. not necessarily but for the most part. the fact that it was initially rated r is ironic because it is one of the classics and many might assume it's rated r when it isn't.
There goes that holier than thou thing again.
Jaws.
The Forgotten
Tremors
Despare
04-15-2008, 03:52 AM
Watcher in the Woods
Let's Scare Jessica to Death
Not to mention all the horror classics that are unrated but wouldn't even approach an R today.
It's the quality of the film that matters, not the rating.
_____V_____
04-15-2008, 04:02 AM
With the Prom Night remake taking #1 at the BO last week, looks like PG13 is pretty much here to stay.
R might soon become ancient - a thing of the past.
Despare
04-15-2008, 04:50 AM
With the Prom Night remake taking #1 at the BO last week, looks like PG13 is pretty much here to stay.
R might soon become ancient - a thing of the past.
We'll get PG-13 in the theaters and "unrated" or "uncensored" on DVD. We'll never lose our R horrors, but I do think it's funny how many #1 comedies are R rated now and #1 horror films are PG-13.
Doc Faustus
04-15-2008, 05:07 AM
It's a matter of being confrontational, which can be harder without nudity and hardcore gore but not impossible. Don't forget the Black Cat, Mad Love and the Raven. All of these movies are inflammatory and sexually transgressive and they don't have much of anything to put them at an R. Solid PG-13 horror happens, but it feels less organic nowadays and has to be sort of Jamesian.
wufongtan.
04-15-2008, 05:54 AM
creepers creepers 1&2. can't wait for3 if it is coming.
fortunato
04-15-2008, 05:57 AM
creepers creepers 1&2. can't wait for3 if it is coming.
those are rated r.
_____V_____
04-15-2008, 06:08 AM
We'll get PG-13 in the theaters and "unrated" or "uncensored" on DVD. We'll never lose our R horrors, but I do think it's funny how many #1 comedies are R rated now and #1 horror films are PG-13.
Between that and the Halloween remake, its pretty evident which way the BO and the studios will be leaning on...
Let's face it - they are making money, so they are calling the shots.
urgeok2
04-15-2008, 06:20 AM
the lady in white
i will fully admit that there arent many good PG horror flicks.
PG is a limiter .. there will be little violence, language, nudity, gore.
Most adult horror situations include these things (a few if not all) and i prefer movies about adults - and i did when i was a kid too. (i grew up with the horror films of the '70s which were almost exclusively geared to adult audiences (adult stars, good directors)
there are always exceptions as a lot of people have noted - but if i was to make a list of my top 50 favorite horror films, i'd be suprised if 5 of them were rated PG.
Despare
04-15-2008, 06:28 AM
Between that and the Halloween remake, its pretty evident which way the BO and the studios will be leaning on...
Let's face it - they are making money, so they are calling the shots.
The Saw series does fairly well consistently though.
_____V_____
04-15-2008, 06:40 AM
The Saw series does fairly well consistently though.
Isn't it just a rehash of basically the same plotline, with different kills each time?
4 looked totally repetitive. I d say its beyond the saturation point.
urgeok2
04-15-2008, 06:56 AM
Isn't it just a rehash of basically the same plotline, with different kills each time?
4 looked totally repetitive. I d say its beyond the saturation point.
sure it is ... its basically Friday the 13th for the 2000's
a slight lean to the grindhouse sensibility - but basically the same thing :
repetition, comfortable familiarity ... and young fans happy to support a new franchise.
_____V_____
04-15-2008, 07:01 AM
sure it is ... its basically Friday the 13th for the 2000's
a slight lean to the grindhouse sensibility - but basically the same thing :
repetition, comfortable familiarity ... and young fans happy to support a new franchise.
Yep, complete with cheers for each kill.
Despare
04-15-2008, 07:08 AM
Yep, complete with cheers for each kill.
They keep trying to "twist" things but regardless of your feelings on the storyline at least it's a hard R horror flick raking in cash still. :)
_____V_____
04-15-2008, 07:17 AM
They keep trying to "twist" things but regardless of your feelings on the storyline at least it's a hard R horror flick raking in cash still. :)
True.
Doesn't mean I d like it. I thought the first one was overdone, and the rest followed suit. It started off pretty interestingly, but 2 and 3 were real eyerollers.
I d rather watch Tim Burton snap off heads in Sleepy Hollow.
Based on a book, yes, but awesome movie...also, doesn't have Sleepy Hollow 2, 3, 4 etc. etc. after it too. ;)
fortunato
04-15-2008, 08:24 AM
True.
Doesn't mean I d like it. I thought the first one was overdone, and the rest followed suit. It started off pretty interestingly, but 2 and 3 were real eyerollers.
I d rather watch Tim Burton snap off heads in Sleepy Hollow.
Based on a book, yes, but awesome movie...also, doesn't have Sleepy Hollow 2, 3, 4 etc. etc. after it too. ;)
^ very well-said, _v_.
Despare
04-15-2008, 08:34 AM
True.
Doesn't mean I d like it. I thought the first one was overdone, and the rest followed suit. It started off pretty interestingly, but 2 and 3 were real eyerollers.
I d rather watch Tim Burton snap off heads in Sleepy Hollow.
Based on a book, yes, but awesome movie...also, doesn't have Sleepy Hollow 2, 3, 4 etc. etc. after it too. ;)
For sure but I'm not touting the merits of any particular movie or series here. Saw could have been much worse but if it made a ton of cash and stayed a hard R it still would serve as a beacon of hope to those who like their horror R (or worse). Personally I wouldn't care if rated R horror was released less and less to the theaters as a lot of the films I enjoy really didn't get a proper mainstream theater release anyway. I do think that dismissing any horror film simply because of the rating is short sighted and ignorant.
urgeok2
04-15-2008, 08:36 AM
. I do think that dismissing any horror film simply because of the rating is short sighted and ignorant.
absolutely.
nothing should be pre-judged.
_____V_____
04-15-2008, 08:47 AM
For sure but I'm not touting the merits of any particular movie or series here. Saw could have been much worse but if it made a ton of cash and stayed a hard R it still would serve as a beacon of hope to those who like their horror R (or worse). Personally I wouldn't care if rated R horror was released less and less to the theaters as a lot of the films I enjoy really didn't get a proper mainstream theater release anyway. I do think that dismissing any horror film simply because of the rating is short sighted and ignorant.
Totally agree.
Look what happened to Grindhouse at the BO. Doesn't deter it from my Top 10 post-2000 one bit.
The one thing which makes PG 13 sell is the pre- and post- teen audience. They are the target groups. And studios are smart about knowing EXACTLY where to rake the moolah in from.
A movie doesn't fare by its quality anymore. It's just a dish now - the more attractive the dish, the more chances it has of getting lapped up.
Lord RawK
04-15-2008, 10:07 AM
pg-13 is a subtle way of knowing accessibility over content. there are exceptions where the plot can overshadow and chill. there are the classics like i noted before. hell, you can even be surprised from time to time with a good horror flick, like some of you mentioned that didn't even pop in my mind.
rated r still says horror to me.
illdojo
04-15-2008, 10:13 AM
rated r still says horror to me.
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Nobody likes you.....Why are you still here, LordCOCK?
Please go back to where you came from. :)
urgeok2
04-15-2008, 10:28 AM
Nobody likes you.....Why are you still here, LordCOCK?
Please go back to where you came from. :)
really - if he's here to contribute in appropriate threads - let him have his say.
lots of people have had bad starts and turned out for the better ...
the problem with a horror forum is that there seems to be some kind of preconceived notion that you have to be a badass - or have a bit of an edge.
a lot of people eventually relax and start being themselves once they see the way the wind blows.
zwoti
04-15-2008, 10:34 AM
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e107/illdojo/1939_14.jpg
well i always wanted to test the temporary ban option :mad:
Lord RawK
04-15-2008, 10:37 AM
i don't believe i've had any examples of me trying to be a "bad ass." if anything most everybody else has acted that way. i also, don't appreciate the thread being turned in to an about me. go to this forum thread in the member lounge instead of trying to butcher this one. sure if it was within the frameworks of the conversation then fine, but an outright bullet is not necessary, in this case anyway.
pg-13 people.
Doc Faustus
04-15-2008, 10:52 AM
Thanks for sticking around and making a contribution. Accessibility over quality is often an issue, but it's an issue also present in bland brand x Lion's Gate rated R horror. There are also movies made for the hard R to choke down for public consumption, and actually, if you take a look at the PG-13 horror titles listed here, PG-13 horror is often more risky than R rated horror. R rated horror will, if anything, have more of an ingrained audience, PG-13 is more of a tossup. It's kind of a no-man's land sometimes. Hardcore gorehounds might shun a PG-13 flick and it's also easy to realize that the rating doesn't necessarily mean family friendly. How many preteens are really seeing 1408 and movies like it? At ten through thirteen, I saw every R rated movie I could. Teenagers are more, not less likely to want to watch something because it's PG-13.
Despare
04-15-2008, 11:42 AM
rated r still says horror to me.
Lately rated R says Apitow comedies to me...
CopperShark
05-01-2008, 05:29 PM
With the Prom Night remake taking #1 at the BO last week, looks like PG13 is pretty much here to stay.
R might soon become ancient - a thing of the past.
I doubt thats gonna happen. In the midst of all these crappy PG-13 movies a lot of good movies have come out recently. The Descent, High Tension, The Hills Have Eyes, Wolf Creek, Hostel...the list goes on. The popularity of horror seems to have risen and yeah, you'll get a lot of crap but you're sure to get some quality mixed in there. Directors know who the true fans are, even the critics can tell crap from quality.