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stubbornforgey
11-17-2006, 05:57 AM
http://www.washtimes.com/national/2...15056-2744r.htm


read this and see what you all think.

Em pissed that other ethnic groups..are allowed to start clubs such as this
and nothing is mentioned..but to start a caucasian club and its deemed racist.
Whats wrong with her wanting to start this??
She should be supported like all other ethnic clubs are..
if this is shunted..then so should the others.

(em not caucasian..but i don't see any problem with this) :mad:

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 06:46 AM
http://www.washtimes.com/national/2...15056-2744r.htm


read this and see what you all think.

Em pissed that other ethnic groups..are allowed to start clubs such as this
and nothing is mentioned..but to start a caucasian club and its deemed racist.
Whats wrong with her wanting to start this??
She should be supported like all other ethnic clubs are..
if this is shunted..then so should the others.

(em not caucasian..but i don't see any problem with this) :mad:
i Couldnt see anything after clicking the link, but i am ssuming this is in america.

We have a bit of a problem with both racism and political correctness here. It is perfectly pc for any non-white, straight male to start their own group that excludes all others.

Unfortunately, there are a good number of straight white guys in this country, throughout history, that have shown when "we" get into groups of our own, it is usually a bunch of racist morons (like, oh say, the KKK and neo-nazis) that have created a stigma agaisnt it, because 90% of the time it IS racism being execrised. Why the other 10% give a shit is beyond me. Start a dungeons and dragons group if ou want nothign but white straight guys to hang out with. They'll all be virgins, too, so you'll be even more exclusive.

There is also the fact that white folks in America are a clear majority. We dont NEED exclusive clubs to meet other white people if we want to. Other groups arent so lucky. i checke dout the stats for the county i live in the other day, and our black population is .06%.... that figures to about 1400 people out of the 29000 in the COUNTY. New england, is a white people's club...

stubbornforgey
11-17-2006, 07:07 AM
NZ is full of white creatures...




we have 4 million sheep :o




story is..this 15 yr old girl wants to start a caucasian club at her college ..and yes..in America.
She's interested in the her history..thats all..
She has the support of many fellow students..from all races but she copping flak from adults and is being labelled a racist.
Theres a latino club..an Asian club etc...so why not a caucasian one as well.?

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 07:20 AM
NZ is full of white creatures...




we have 4 million sheep :o




story is..this 15 yr old girl wants to start a caucasian club at her college ..and yes..in America.
She's interested in the her history..thats all..
She has the support of many fellow students..from all races but she copping flak from adults and is being labelled a racist.
Theres a latino club..an Asian club etc...so why not a caucasian one as well.?

It has everythingto do with attitudes over the past 200 years in this country. the only people who are caucasian that generally show any pride in their "white heritage are racists.


The funny thingis, there is no real "white history" in this country. we are all mixes of so many countries, it is impossible to nail down any real ethnic group for a lot of us. Personally i am (in order from greatest to leat):
German
Irish
English
Scottish
French
Portuguese
Italian

Kinda hard to pick one to have "pride" in, especially the german part.. that would get me labeled as a nazi in no time.

There is this stupid movement inthis country where a lot of us "who have had everythign handed to us" people are getting really whiny. I dont beleive in the whoel white guilt thing, i have never done a thing to any one of any race because of their race. if i was rude or mean, its because they sucked as a person.

These days, unless you are an older person who was around for the 60s, you really have to get over the whole white/black thing (for starters). i have known as many whiet people get shit for being white as i have black people who got shit for being black. its wrong either way.

We just need to get over it. I AM tired of getting treated as an exception because of what people who looked like me did for a few hundred years, but i wasnt one of them. If soemone wants to start a "white club" i have a few suggestions:

Its not funny, so if you are being a smartass, stop it.
If you ARE a racist, put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger; you will never be happy do give up on life.
if you are really that naive, get some councilling. There is a real world outside your doorstep.
If you REALLY just want to revel in your white heritage, get OVER it...the odds of you having a direct lineage is almost impossible, so why not just be happy being you, and join a chess club?

stubbornforgey
11-17-2006, 08:02 AM
nicely said..
but nukem all i say :D

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 08:07 AM
nicely said..
but nukem all i say :D

Thats right, let God sort 'em out :)

VampiricClown
11-17-2006, 08:09 AM
I see no problem with making it and personally think that it is only fair.

Wanna know the kicker?

If we make a Caucasian Club, we get pelted for being racist, yet, who is calling us racist? That is a racial remark as well just assuming that all caucasians are racist!

And may I ask you, why is it that a non-white person can call a white person a "cracker", but we can't call other races by their "bad name", whatever it is????

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 08:15 AM
And may I ask you, why is it that a non-white person can call a white person a "cracker", but we can't call other races by their "bad name", whatever it is????

Because no matter how much hate is behind the use of "Cracker" "Whitey" and whatever words they come up with, they are all stupid and sound funny.

Here is the imbalance in the hypothetical racial epithet exchange:

"Cracker-ass craker. Damn whitey. Milk colored job-stealer. Damn Redneck. White Trash. Marshmallow-ass motherfucker"

"hehe.... 'n-word'"

"MOTHERFUCKER, I'LL KILL YOU!"

White peopel have a way with words, not to mention pretty much every part of our history involves OUR ancestors trying to wipe out one ethnicity or another. We have always had this incredible ability to band to gether to kill off anyone who is different from us.

bwind22
11-17-2006, 08:17 AM
Racism is stupid & so is reverse racism. This chick should sure as hell be allowed to start this club if she wants to because we have this thing called the Bill of Rights and it guarantees Freedom of Assembly. Of course she'll catch flack for it though... Jesse Jackson is probably already banging down her door.

It's the same kinda thing with BET though. We can't have WET (White Entertainment Television) because that would be racist, but an all black channel is fine. It's fuckin' stupid.

Roderick Usher
11-17-2006, 08:18 AM
What about the freedom of expression and right to assembly?

clubs are lame..let 'em start one

Roderick Usher
11-17-2006, 08:24 AM
White peopel have a way with words, not to mention pretty much every part of our history involves OUR ancestors trying to wipe out one ethnicity or another. We have always had this incredible ability to band to gether to kill off anyone who is different from us.

It isn't just white people...it's the nature of power. Those with power subjugate those without

Look at the Chinese in Nepal or the warring genocidal factions throughout several African nations not to mention the constantly boiling pot of intolerance that is the Middle East.

Sure white Europeans have been particularly effective at destroying other cultures, but it is hardly something white folks invented

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 08:34 AM
Sure white Europeans have been particularly effective at destroying other cultures, but it is hardly something white folks invented

The talent was what i was getting at :)

Plus, killing off people from your own continent is BORING.... Ad some spice, go somewhere exotic and kill the natives...

Roderick Usher
11-17-2006, 08:35 AM
Nicely done:)

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 08:39 AM
Thank you :)


The spice thing was a coincidence, too, but it certainly got a lot of natives killed by the english
The spaniards liked mexican gold
Europeans liked free labor from africa
The english liked Land in america.

VampiricClown
11-17-2006, 08:49 AM
I say fuck'em all and everyone do whatever the hell you want! If one race of people can do it, then all can. Simple as that.

As far as not being able to name call someone, it doesn't matte how funny the word sounds, it's the intention of it. Kind of like...I'm gonna hit you upside the mother fuckin' head with a brick. If I hit you with it in a joking manner, it still hurts just as much as with a non-joking manner. Think about it.

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 08:52 AM
I say fuck'em all and everyone do whatever the hell you want! If one race of people can do it, then all can. Simple as that.



With one exception: being a member of another race. Not to white suburban kidz everywhere:


Yo. Homie. You aint neva gonna be black, so pull yo pants up, put your hat on straight, and learn fucking english you little retard.

kpropain
11-17-2006, 09:20 AM
Racism is stupid & so is reverse racism. This chick should sure as hell be allowed to start this club if she wants to because we have this thing called the Bill of Rights and it guarantees Freedom of Assembly. Of course she'll catch flack for it though... Jesse Jackson is probably already banging down her door.

It's the same kinda thing with BET though. We can't have WET (White Entertainment Television) because that would be racist, but an all black channel is fine. It's fuckin' stupid.

Don't forget Telemundo:mad:

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 09:32 AM
Racism is stupid & so is reverse racism. This chick should sure as hell be allowed to start this club if she wants to because we have this thing called the Bill of Rights and it guarantees Freedom of Assembly. Of course she'll catch flack for it though... Jesse Jackson is probably already banging down her door.

It's the same kinda thing with BET though. We can't have WET (White Entertainment Television) because that would be racist, but an all black channel is fine. It's fuckin' stupid.

I think WET is already owned by the Spice Network. :) either that or lifetime.

Any "White club" will make the news, and not in a good way. And sooner or later, some idiot with a swastika and "White Power" tatooed on them will show up to join, and that will be the end of.

Face it. White guys suck. At least in the world's eyes. Its the same thign as racism, reacting based on a negative sterotype.

Roderick Usher
11-17-2006, 09:40 AM
With one exception: being a member of another race. Not to white suburban kidz everywhere:


Yo. Homie. You aint neva gonna be black, so pull yo pants up, put your hat on straight, and learn fucking english you little retard.

um being part of the hip-hop culture is a social group now, not a racial one...old man!

Kemal
11-17-2006, 09:45 AM
"What's that movie where the old lady says: "Everybody needs to start fucking everyone else so we all look alike!"

I feel like I should say something profound here... but that's the best I can do.

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 09:51 AM
um being part of the hip-hop culture is a social group now, not a racial one...old man!

Ahh, but they put forth a mighty effort to make it so.

I worked with a guy who bought into the whole image, down to a stupid little gold chain and always wearing his hat sideways (A professional working tech support for a corporation, no less)... I made a comment one time that he was trying to be black and he got PISSED.

I thought it was interesting that he wanted the look, the lingo, and listened to the music, but didnt want to be associated with them in any other way. he had no black friends, and was actually pretty racist when he spoke about black people. I guess the "culture" is attractive to stupid white peopel. K-fed anyone?


thants not to say that anyone who like rap and buys into all of that is an idiot. I think Dr Dre and eminem prove that there are soime oretty sharp minds out there. there are just a LOT of dull ones....

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 09:52 AM
"What's that movie where the old lady says: "Everybody needs to start fucking everyone else so we all look alike!"

I feel like I should say something profound here... but that's the best I can do.

You usually say pretty profound (or at least relevant) things, kemal. Dont judge yourself too harshly :)

tic
11-17-2006, 10:33 AM
The english liked Land in america.

And we would like it back ok, it was only a loan. :D

I've read the history books and such and yes the europeans (historically wise) weren't probably the nicest people in the world - I particularlly hate this idea that there is only one true "christian" god and everyone elses' false.

A few years ago a friend of mine worked over in Nigeria, she used to send me the local newspaper, in english of course - one story was about a nigerian farmer who was talking about his normal year, this year he was facing famine, some of his cattle had died, his wife was sick with malaria and he had three children (under ten to look after) after all this is answer was "with the grace of god and his son, Jesus, everything will get better", faith is one thing but, I find it quite alarming, not that he believed in God, but that someone went to Nigeria at some point and taught everyone that the Christian religion was the only one. How dare they.

Throughout history man, as I have said has done some pretty nasty things - child prostitution, slavery, drug trafficking, genocide all done by white Europeans, funnily enough they still happen, but not just by"white" people.

I also hate the idea that only white people are racist; there's racism in all races/colours/creeds.

In Britain, we have segregated schools (by race and religion and sex), teachers allowed to wear ethnic costumes, we are not allowed to wear crucifixes in public in case we offend anyone, "how dare you mention Easter or Christmas, my faith doesn't believe in it", yeah but you still take Christmas Day off don't you. Bull shit political correctness gone way over the top and a possible reason for the problems in the first place. Everybody is trying not offend anyone else, while offending their own.

btw: My heritage is English, Scottish, Irish, and German, I am a White Anglo Saxon Protestant- which probably makes me a perfect candidate for the KKK. I call asian people - asian/oriental, afro-carribean - afro carribean, white - white, I am not part of the (British) National Front, which I believe has affiliations with the KKK.

I will NOT apologize for being white, nor for my ancestry.

Merry Christmas, when it comes :rolleyes:

Miss Olivia
11-17-2006, 11:50 AM
I'm a racist.
I don't care much for the whole human race.
There. I said it. Human beings tend to suck.
I know, because I'm human.

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 11:52 AM
I'm a racist.
I don't care much for the whole human race.
There. I said it. Human beings tend to suck.
I know, because I'm human.

Well, its okay that you hate the white straight men, but you suck for hating everyone else, too. Dont you believe in equality?

Miss Olivia
11-17-2006, 12:05 PM
Not for a fucking minute.

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 12:08 PM
Not for a fucking minute.

What about a regular minue? :D

Miss Olivia
11-17-2006, 12:11 PM
It's possible.....unfortunately, fucking minutes go by a LOT faster than regular ones. The extra time could make a profound difference.:p

tic
11-17-2006, 12:12 PM
I'm a racist.
I don't care much for the whole human race.
There. I said it. Human beings tend to suck.
I know, because I'm human.

Is that not more socio-pathic than racist


*I tend to agree with you though*

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 12:14 PM
Is that not more socio-pathic than racist


*I tend to agree with you though*

you say "tomato"

She says "Shoot the fuckers in the skull."

Miss Olivia
11-17-2006, 12:19 PM
Sociopathy and racism are branches off the same tree.

Minor sociopathic tendancies can be beneficial if curbed into positive channels, so there's always a silver lining.:)

Vodstok
11-17-2006, 12:20 PM
Sociopathy and racism are branches off the same tree.

Minor sociopathic tendancies can be beneficial if curbed into positive channels, so there's always a silver lining.:)

Like becoming a government sponsored sniper, taking out evil wherer it rears its ugly head?

Miss Olivia
11-17-2006, 12:22 PM
With a smile and the joy of life's purpose fulfilled.:D

It's all a matter of the acceptable.

tic
11-17-2006, 12:28 PM
Like becoming a government sponsored sniper, taking out evil wherer it rears its ugly head?

Are you saying James Bond is a sociopath?

He (although fictional) is a glorified British Government assassin, ....yeah maybe you're right. :D

bwind22
11-17-2006, 09:40 PM
Here is something I just thought of...


Everyone (at least Americans) remembers the DC Beltway Snipers right? Well, thye were both black and they shot and killed about a dozen random white people. Now, someone explain to me how that isn't a race hate crime because I have yet to hear it refered to as one, yet you know if it was 2 white guys that shot a dozen black guys, it would most definately be labeled a racist crime. Our double standards here are fuckin' ridiculous.

The STE
11-17-2006, 10:10 PM
It wasn't labelled as a hate crime because the black guys were innocent. They were just blackmailed to cover up for the real (white) killer(s).

bwind22
11-17-2006, 11:24 PM
WHy is it called 'black'mailed? That's racist!

stubbornforgey
11-18-2006, 12:15 AM
i still say..nuke em all !!