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Elvis_Christ
06-10-2006, 10:59 PM
Clue me up on some of these people (zombie flicks in general I guess). I've seen a few of the usual suspects so clue me up on some shit I maybe missing. Cheers :)
_____V_____
06-11-2006, 02:25 AM
The Beyond aka Seven Doors of Death
Burial Ground - Night of Terror
Zombie Holocaust aka Dr. Butcher MD
House by the Cemetery
Nightmare City
Hell of the Living Dead
Zombie Flesh Eaters 3 aka Zombie 4: After Death
Dont Open the Window aka Let Sleeping Corpses Lie
tell me if you ve seen any of these...then I can recommend more...
PR3SSUR3
06-11-2006, 02:32 AM
Zombie Flesh Eaters 3 aka Zombie 4: After Death
You're kidding - this is shit!
Is this being recommended above Zombie Flesh Eaters?
Elvis_Christ
06-11-2006, 02:35 AM
The Beyond aka Seven Doors of Death
Burial Ground - Night of Terror
Zombie Holocaust aka Dr. Butcher MD
House by the Cemetery
Zombie (Zombie Flesh Eaters)
^^ Seen these ones
_____V_____
06-11-2006, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
You're kidding - this is shit!
Is this being recommended above Zombie Flesh Eaters?
knock knock...note what Elvis said...
I've seen a few of the usual suspects so clue me up on some shit I maybe missing.
notice I didnt recommend the Romero movies? Hence no Zombie either. Ahem...
neways...
see if you can find any of these Elvis -
Cannibal Apocalypse
Cemetery Man
Two Evil Eyes
The Dead Are Alive
Hanging Woman aka Terror of the Living Dead
The Gates of Hell aka City of the Living Dead
Zombie Creeping Flesh aka Night of the Zombies
Zeder aka Revenge of the Dead
Thats all which come to mind right now. Look for em plus the titles I posted above which you havent seen...I promise I ll dig for more if you are interested.
PR3SSUR3
06-11-2006, 03:57 AM
When Elvis said 'shit', he still meant 'good', and those others you had mentioned are just about as popular.
Romero's movies are not Italian, apart from some finance for Dawn of the Dead.
Knock knock!
: D
Beyond
06-11-2006, 07:15 AM
I'd also recommend
City of the Living Dead
I'd avoid
Any of the Zombie sequels!
zwoti
06-11-2006, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by _____V_____
Hell of the Living Dead
Originally posted by _____V_____
Zombie Creeping Flesh aka Night of the Zombies
a film so good, he recommended it twice :p
filmmaker2
06-11-2006, 07:21 AM
Ah.............I would like to nominate the red-headed stepchild of the zombie subgenre, "RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD PT. 2"....
The first one was fine, and a lot of people like it...for for some reason, the sequel is very unloved by many. I like it quite a bit, however.
Ken Myers who did many of the effects for the first film comes back, with a bunch more money and a big crew, delivering two big truckloads of cool zombie makeups and effects.
It's out on DVD. But the DVD is WORTHLESS! Because they totally replaced the score owing to a music rights issue.
Buy the VHS tapes! They have the original score, and in STEREO.
filmmaker2
06-11-2006, 07:54 AM
Yeah, I know it's not Italian, I was responding to the
"(zombie flicks in general I guess)"
part.
_____V_____
06-11-2006, 08:10 AM
When Elvis said 'shit', he still meant 'good', and those others you had mentioned are just about as popular.
Romero's movies are not Italian, apart from some finance for Dawn of the Dead.
Knock knock!
:D
ahh...oopsie me then lol :D
Originally posted by _____V_____
Hell of the Living Dead
Quote:
Originally posted by _____V_____
Zombie Creeping Flesh aka Night of the Zombies
a film so good, he recommended it twice :p
lmao errr...yup yup :p
Can I plead the 5th? :o
:D
Elvis_Christ
06-11-2006, 05:21 PM
Cannibal Apocalypse is a dope flick I really dug it. Two Evil Eyes was pretty cool also (assuming you meant the Argento/Romero movie). I loved City Of The Living Dead. Have to keep an eye out for the others over here but I doubt I'm gonna run into them anytime soon.
@ filmmaker2: I bet a lot of people got burnt with Return Of The Living Dead 2 and replaced their VHS with DVD. A lot of those older flicks the definative version is on VHS.
PR3SSUR3
06-11-2006, 05:36 PM
ROTLD2 had an okay 'half-zombie' bit, but was ruined by the desperately bland direction of Ken Wiederhorn and an unappealling cast.
Thank the lord for the barnstorming next instalment, then cry over the last two.
filmmaker2
06-11-2006, 05:39 PM
Well, you know there's no accounting for taste. The third one didn't do anything for me, although most people seem to like it a lot.
mothermold
06-11-2006, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by _____V_____
The Gates of Hell aka City of the Living Dead
My memory is a little fuzzy.Is this the movie where the girl pukes up all her innards?
_____V_____
06-12-2006, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by mothermold
My memory is a little fuzzy.Is this the movie where the girl pukes up all her innards?
yep. The DVD extras say the gurl actually put a sheep's intestines in her mouth to show that. YUCK!
http://www.badmovieplanet.com/inferno/archives/infernocam/city12.jpg
And @ FM & Elvis...I absolutely agree 100% with you 2. The implanted new music score in the DVD version is a total let-down for those who bought it (I am one of those). Moments like these make me feel that for the movies, the VHS system shoulda stayed. Even Director's Cut versions which usually contain extra footage, usually miss out on some other critical aspects of movies. Ah...my good ole VCR! nostalgic moment...:rolleyes:
RotLD 2 was an ok movie. IMO, pt 3 was slightly better than 2, with better direction, plot and acting. Cheesiness, its almost same in all 3 of em, although the original def takes the cake.
filmmaker2
06-12-2006, 04:20 AM
yeah...yeah...yeah...and since we're on the subject of audio tracks (and I know this is going to show how much of a geek I am), I thought I should mention that a couple of Terry Alexander's lines on the "Day of the Dead" DVD (the Anchor Bay one, with Bub on the cover etc.) are different...they sound like they were the original production audio instead of the looped version...it's different from previous versions of the film. Now I'm not being overly critical because actually I love the DVD of that movie; it is really awesome....but those two lines were sort of memorable the way they looped them, and it's a shame they're not in that version.
urgeok
06-12-2006, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by filmmaker2
yeah...yeah...yeah...and since we're on the subject of audio tracks (and I know this is going to show how much of a geek I am), I thought I should mention that a couple of Terry Alexander's lines on the "Day of the Dead" DVD (the Anchor Bay one, with Bub on the cover etc.) are different...they sound like they were the original production audio instead of the looped version...it's different from previous versions of the film. Now I'm not being overly critical because actually I love the DVD of that movie; it is really awesome....but those two lines were sort of memorable the way they looped them, and it's a shame they're not in that version.
so i should keep my beta copy ?
filmmaker2
06-12-2006, 08:18 AM
Yes, keep the Beta! (I remember Beta!)
For geeks who want to compare versions, the first line is "You can hear it over de engine!"
The second line originally was "Shit! I could do that even if all this wasn't goin' on" and on the DVD he says "Right!" instead of "Shit!"
NEW ADDED NOTES: I sat down and watched the DVD last night and really listened to the audio, and in fact there are MANY instances of the dialogue track being different from that on previous video releases--for several characters. Most of it is small--a little line here, a line there.
urgeok
06-12-2006, 08:20 AM
it should be mentioned that collecting italian zombie movies is a bit of a challenge and worth a lot of research so you dont get burned.
so many of them have been released with alternative names with various degrees of deleted scenes it makes it tough to get the definitive editions and avoid duplication.
even the directors names will change.
i suggest that pressure and zwoti be consulted before every purchase cause they are up on that stuff.
(see filmmaker for all your domestic film questions :D)
PR3SSUR3
06-12-2006, 01:48 PM
A lot of people don't seem to like Zombie Creeping Flesh, and cite inept production values and acting and its ripoff elements.
But, watching some work by Olaf Ittenbach recently, I prefer this cheap kind of exploitation to the likes of Premutos - not similar films I know, but both 'bad' zombie movies.
If 'bad' means heavy inserts of National Geographic stock wildlife footage whenever a character looks around (snigger!), amusing spliced in mondo and top music from Dawn of the Dead and Contamination then so be it!
And don't forget the belter 'eyeballs' scene...
filmmaker2
06-12-2006, 08:13 PM
Well, now that you mention PREMUTOS....I feel that Premutos is definitely one of those films a person should see at least once, because it's......ahem...."different." Maybe unique would be a better word.
I didn't think it was a good movie by any stretch, but by golly, it sure was insane, and probably was made by maniacs. Certainly the filmmakers were not people as you and I understand the term.
PR3SSUR3
06-13-2006, 06:33 AM
I find the whole Premutos and Ittenbach thing almost unwatchable, for the following reasons:-
His films have that 'heavy metal fan' touch to them; that is to say the makers are clearly bang into what they think is The Dark Side - all long hair, growly attitude and anti-establishment values which time after time seems to amount to little more than cliched characters and situations with as much fear and intrigue as an Iron Maiden album cover.
Fallen angels... Satan... The Living Dead... if tackled on the cheap by mere fanboys, these subjects have a tendency to present themselves in a bland fashion simply unredeemable by the requisite OTT gore effects thought necessary to shock and awe.
After the dull scripts, there is the acting element - all of which in Ittenbach's films is dire. Put it down to bad dubbing in some of them, but the overall effect is still brain-numbingly tedious. Something about perky, theatrical American voices placed over German mouthings does not seem to work one bit.
Premutos would appeal most to younger and viewers unfamiliar with more raw, purposeful exploitation - no offence to any old gits or fans of heavy metal, mind.
Jorg Buttgereit - now here is a German who could make quality, original films. In his own language, with no colourful gimmicks.
filmmaker2
06-13-2006, 11:00 AM
I haven't seen Buttgereit's films--he seems too serious about what he is doing, and I feel his films would frighten me a little TOO much! I like something he said in an interview once, however: "Society gets the films it deserves."
PR3SSUR3
06-13-2006, 01:02 PM
lol - nobody deserves his films!
That's probably a bit harsh, but I just hate to see money and opportunities wasted.