if you could get away with it

[bwind22]

Originally posted by Deposable
No one can prove that the government will be stable after we leave... How long do we stay ? Sure... the toll isn't bad so far. But how about five years from now ? I don't want ANY troops dying for this cause that 60% of the nation doesn't believe in. We will always be the "BAD USA". I hope this works out because I don't want our soldiers to dye in vein, while our leader jokes with his buddy at his ranch... I will never support War, unless it 100% just. Look at Canada, man... They don't have half of the problems we have at all. Free Health care.. You could say they even have more freedom, then the "land of the free"

It's a matter of opinion I guess, but I would say even an unsteady democracy is better than a tyrannical dictatorship.

I heard about that, It just makes me sick. Its unbelievable! But I have always voted for Nader. Wasted vote, but I say "what isn't ?"

Nader huh? You're alright in my book. He is the only politician I've seen in years that doesn't make me want to puke. Too bad he won't ever get a chance to get into the White House because he would actually do a good job I think.

Some crazy fucks believe they have the right to have ANY gun ever made because of the 2nd amendment. You know, like we need a AK-47 to do hunting with :rolleyes:, they say hunting is a sport but there is no challenge in hunting. Unless you use a bow and arrow. The 2nd amendment was to up hold our government. Which is impossible because the police have full control of our society.

Hmm... I'm sure you've heard the saying 'If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns.' I'm not a huge gun nut or anything but it seems to make sense. I dont have any problem with the guy that wants an AK-47 and doesn't intend to harm anyone with it. I do have a problem with some thug using one to shoot up a bank or something. But stricted gun control would not take the thugs guns off the streets because they aren't registered anyways. It would essentially only take away the average citizens right to have equal weaponry as the next guy. I actually think that everyone should own a pistol or two, just for your own protection. You never know when some cracked out asshole is gonna kick in your door to rob you or rape your girl or kid or whatever. Everyone has a right to be able to protect their family in my opinion. Now does that mean, everyone should run out and buy an AK? No. But if there's a chance (Whether they are legal or not) that said crackhead could have one, then it only seems fair that the innocent, law abiding citizen should be able to also.

[bloodrayne]

Whew!...Okay...*giggles*....Oh, is it difficult to try to make a valid point while giggling? :D

Originally posted by bwind22
Yes I remember this incident although I don't really see how it pertains to anything. What are you getting at? That Saddam is a cold motherfucker? We already know that.

That was just to illustrate his lack of loyalty to ANYONE, even his own children.....To point out that while he may be an enemy to someone at some time, he can change that as he sees fit, if it's in HIS best interest...

Originally posted by bwind22
This is really just your own speculation. There has never been anything proving these two are working together.

Okay...But, I'm sticking to my speculation...It was presented early on, after the 9-11 attacks...I may try to find the information behind it...But, not right now...Computer's being a bitch...Irritating...

Originally posted by bwind22
Yep. Our government is stupid..

No argument there...But, where the media is concerned, I truly believe that the government's hands are tied...If something is NOT reported, the media tries to portray that as 'hiding something' with the inclusion that 'the people have a right to know'...And while I agree that 'the people have a right to know', the entire fucking world does NOT, not where it concerns our security...If it puts us at risk, I say 'the people' just have to fucking wait until it's done, and THEN hear about it

Originally posted by bwind22
Deja vu. Didn't you basically already say that in the 2nd paragraph?

LOL...Probably...I have a tendency to be redundant at times...Usually when I'm trying to emphasize a particular point

Originally posted by bwind22
The American media is retarded. No arguement here on that one. Anyone needing proof can just look up the Fox news archives of Geraldo Rivera drawing a fucking map in the sand of where the military plattoon he was traveling with was stationed during the opening days of the Iraq war. What a fuckin' dumbass...

Exactly

Originally posted by bwind22
Yeah you can do that, but I don't see any reason that you would know better than the 9/11 Commission

I probably just have a problem accepting everything that I'm told...Usually when it conflicts with what I already believe :)

Originally posted by bwind22
Kofi Annan is the biggest crook of any politicans. The UN is a joke. Oil for Food was a fucking fiasco.

Without a doubt

Originally posted by bwind22
just because Saddam didn't distribute the money like he should have, doesn't mean he gave it to bin Laden.

True...I just feel that if he had SO much money at his disposal, why NOT throw it out there to further his agenda to 'destroy the infidels'? ...I could DEFINITELY see that happening....AND by 'support', I'm not just referring to money...Bin Laden needed protection...These countries are about the size of OUR states...Gotta be a little difficult to hide so well, for so long...

Originally posted by bwind22
You are jumping to conclusions.

LOL...Possibly...

That's how I get most of my exercise...:D :D

Originally posted by bwind22
History channel is running a biography on bin Laden this month. I just watched it a couple days ago and it's really good, but that's where alot of my info came from.

Hey!...No Fair!....I'm trying to remember this crap from years ago (as it happened)...While you're taking a refresher course!....lol

Believe it or not...I actually distanced myself from all of this political bullshit about 3 years ago...It all just became far too ridiculous...and discouraging...

Originally posted by bwind22
I basically think we are seeing eye to eye on pretty much everything except the al-Qaida/Iraq connection.

Yup...Kinda looks that way...


And yeah...I shoulda revised my statement on North Korea from "if not AS big a threat as Saddam" to "if not an even BIGGER threat than Saddam"...You got me on that one, for sure...

So...Are we done yet? :)

[Deposable]

hahaha, all this because I want to beat George Bush's ass... :D

Great stuff and good opinions.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by Deposable
hahaha, all this because I want to beat George Bush's ass... :D

Great stuff and good opinions.

LOL...Yeah...It's REALLY easy to spark a political discussion:)

...And they DO tend to go on and on...BUT, I appreciate it when people can debate things intelligently, without getting out of control...It actually helps to make more points for the presentation and validity of your opinion, if you keep from giving the impression that the opinion was formulated by an idiot....lol

[wufong]

Originally posted by bwind22
Then I'd rip out Ashlee Simpsons vocal chords. .

i think smome one already beat ya to it.

[Haunted]

Did someone call him Muslim? I don't know; I only skimmed. I just wanted to add my two cents. Sorry...geez.