Goodbye

[The STE]

See, this is EXACTLY why I posted a jokey, non-commital phrase and left. But since shit hit fan anyways...




Okay, I'm confused. Did Haunted out-and-out say it was a suicide attempt, or just cutting? Cause it seems like everyone's saying "suicide attempt" EXCEPT her.

[Marroe]

Originally posted by stubbornforgey
Banned??
for speaking an opinion??

and hey, if you ever want someone banned all you have to do is suck on any one of the moderaters toes for a while...they'll do whatever you say. it's insane that we lost such a good poster/topic starter because they wanted to show a different perspective. Whether or not someone was my friend, or USED to be, I'd do it the same way. Nothing works better than a reality check.

I just hope for your sake Haunted, that you took something from some of those posts...as mean as they sound, it's all true. Hurting yourself is no way to gain attention. No matter what is wrong, it's not that bad. Things always work out for the best in the end, you just gotta see it thru. I don't even know if you read my post about my mother, or if it's even still there...but could you imagaine losing a mother over a man? I couldn't...and I had to get really fucking mean about it before she understood what it was doing to me, and our family. And I know your family, and friends couldn't imagine losing you for whatever is going on in your life now. Even if it wasn't a suicide attempt...you're still hurting yourself, and it could lead to death if you're not careful. Start considering others more...I know you wouldn't want to lose anyone like that.

[The STE]

Originally posted by Marroe
Even if it wasn't a suicide attempt...you're still hurting yourself, and it could lead to death if you're not careful.

Exact same thing could be said about smoking or drinking.

[Marroe]

Originally posted by The STE
Exact same thing could be said about smoking or drinking.

this is true. And when I had a drinking problem going on, I was so glad someone threw it in my face like they did...Like I said, people need reality checks every once in a while.

[The STE]

Originally posted by Marroe
this is true. And when I had a drinking problem going on, I was so glad someone threw it in my face like they did...Like I said, people need reality checks every once in a while.

Not knowing what went on with the drinking problem or who threw it in your face (hell, it could've been me for all I know), I can't comment on that.

But "drinking problem" =/= this. This is more comparable to "drank to much last night and got alcohol poisoning"

[Marroe]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Ugh!!!! Marroe, I never attacked the man, just the insensativity he so knowingly and willingly displayed. If he so had the right to display that type of anger and diappointment, I so had the right to comment on it. The girl came here for help from her "so called" friends and was met with anger and hostility. I'm sure that the mod who saw fit to do this would have done it to any they felt deserved. Everyone know's I've been on that end of the rope. And deserved it at one time.

Now on the matter of the "my daughter" scenario. There would be no limit to my anger if that were to occur and trust me when I say the right authorities better catch up with the person responsable before I did. Totally different situations. There is a difference in bodily harm to yourself as opposed to that on someone else. And although I would understand that this person could not help themsef, I would most definately be extremely angry and vengeful.

Had Cheeba had chosen to show his disappointment with out the namecalling and the verbal attack he had no problem posting, I'd have kept my mouth shut. But he didnt so why should I?

why "UGH!!!! Marroe" me? that was him, not me. I was just doing a favor. Call me out on one of MY opinions if need be....but I don't see much of a need here.

[Marroe]

Originally posted by The STE
Not knowing what went on with the drinking problem or who threw it in your face (hell, it could've been me for all I know), I can't comment on that.

But "drinking problem" =/= this. This is more comparable to "drank to much last night and got alcohol poisoning"

and if someone you cared about got too drunk and got alcohol poisoning, and then went and did the same damn thing to themselves a week later, and you spoke nicely to them about their issue, then they turn around and do it a 3rd time...would you be nice about it then? I'd hope not. Things get a little silly after a while.

Not saying you said anything about it , just trying to make a point here...hope it came thru.

[meetthecreeper]

Originally posted by Marroe


ABOUT me, sure. I'd believe that.
However, you don't KNOW me, so any information you claim to have about me is biased at most. Now, I don't know you either, but from what I've seen, you seem smarter than to follow blindly like...how would you put it? sheeple?


So you're saying your individual viewpoint is the be all and end all on this matter? It's because of my understanding that I say these things.

- B [/B]

Well I dont agree with the banning. I think that is a little bit of nonsense seeing is all he has to do is come back with a name change.

Yes I don't KNOW you. Is my info bias. Perhaps. But I draw my own conclusions and dont paint everything with such a broad stroke of a brush.

Perhaps I will visit you in a dream some night and we can discuss further.

And I would never say that my view is the end all be all of anything in anyway. As a matter of fact I welcome all viewpoints and digest them individually based on there own merits.

I understand you have been thru similar situations. Do you think your brand of "TUFF LUV" makes things any better????

There is a difference between giving somebody an ass kickin' cos' you care for them and then there is just being rotten.

I dont care if she was crying out for help or not, when a human being is down do you give them your hand and help them up or do you put your boot on their throat and kick them while they are down???

Again Cheebs, its BS that you got banned but I would like it if you would carefully consider what I have said and then think about what you said. Maybe you were being a bit harsh?

Just for the record, normally I would be swinging my battle axe like a beserker right now, but I am in too good of a mood for that for tomorrows evening celebrations.

[The STE]

Originally posted by Marroe
and if someone you cared about got too drunk and got alcohol poisoning, and then went and did the same damn thing to themselves a week later, and you spoke nicely to them about their issue, then they turn around and do it a 3rd time...would you be nice about it then? I'd hope not. Things get a little silly after a while.

Not saying you said anything about it , just trying to make a point here...hope it came thru.

No, but that situation is still not this situation. THAT is a drinking problem.

I understand your point, I just don't agree with it in the least

[Marroe]

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Marroe, there's a difference between being angry and being mean. He was just mean. That never makes anything better. Maybe being mean worked in your situation, but I hardly think it works in every situation.

hey, I think I used the word "mean" also...not "angry". When all else fails with someone, what else is there to use? I'm not saying I don't feel bad that Haunted has problems...we all do, but we're all not trying to kill ourselves, or hurt ourselves in any way because of them. I think that anyone who uses suicide attemps, or cutting to get attention needs to be told how they're acting...EVEN my own mother.