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Old 11-01-2011, 03:12 AM
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I bet its a severely cut version though-Distributors have often claimed new releases in the UK are "uncut" as anyone knows who was fooled into buying the supposedly uncut recent release of "Cannibal Holocaust" (though I think its fully uncut now after last year's relaxing of censorship laws) knows-not my cup of tea cos of the non stimulated animal cruelty but people should be able to watch full films-no censorship is needed. Banning films just gets more kids interested in seeing them like the farce with Child's Play and Mikey (this one is still ridiculously banned by the BBFC!)
Ah yes, this is true. I don't think we'll see Cannibal Holocaust truly uncut for a long time in the UK, mostly because of the animal cruelty, which as an animal lover I do feel a little sympathetic towards.

It is worth pointing out however that the first cut of Cannibal Holocaust brought before the BBFC was already cut before the BBFC banned it.

As for the case involving Child's Play and Mikey, I sympathise with the family of James Bulger and it was a terrible thing, but it's knee-jerk ill-thought-out populism that's responsible for banning these films.

Ah, the ever-proceeding trudge of the censorious.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:53 AM
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Watched it last night with a few friends. My personal opinion? Worst movie I have ever seen. Violent and Disgusting just for the sake of it. Didn't add to the story or anything. Will watch the 3rd and "final" one when it comes out.
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:21 PM
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I have an extremely open mind about artistic expression. Just, no, no, no and no. Horror needs a purpose, good horror anyway. That's just my opinion but really?

There was just nothing there. It is a crying shame that my independent stories are just better than that crap. Nothing is there and move on.

I think I'd rather listen to Rape Me by Nirvana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLwQ7Qlxr4&NR=1fifty thousand times than watch that piece of shit ever again. Excuse the pun if you actually watched that crap. Again sorry about the crap reference because the creators obviously have a shit fetish. Hey, I just call it like I see em. Unfortunately, assholes like that have more money that I have so there shit goes to the screen.

I read the rules of this forum and I'm sorry for the rant. However, when I spend the time to craft meaningful work that moves the genre forward and I even see that Human Centipede gets a scent of recognition that grabs my goat, and he has big balls!
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Old 11-02-2011, 05:50 AM
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Old 11-02-2011, 07:32 AM
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The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) [2011]



This is a highly self indulgent aka controversy+attention grabbing effort from Tom Six that mainly focused on shock value. Even now it seems kinda funny that there are 2 min. & 37 sec. footage got cut in this release when they allowed quite a sufficient amount of gore, shit & disturbing elements in this version. Except of that reported brutal rape & masturbating scene I don't see the points why they removed all those other 'seemingly tolerable' scenes. Perhaps to boost the US or international theatrical & DVD release I guess.
Anyway, first of all the thing that disappointed me most was its premise or in what ground or character around this sequel story started off. This time they introduced another seemingly interesting character on the lead...a mentally handicapped fat little guy who works as a security guard in an underground garage somewhere and also a huge FAN of Tom Six's original HC film. Now, the way Mr. Six developed & portrayed this character in the film is actually kinda interesting with a tortured background but I just didn't like the fact that he's a crazy fan of HC-1ST SEQ & conducted the whole 10 person ass-to-mouth experiment by himself alone. May be there's a hidden dark meaning or message out there somewhere which I failed to get but I think this character of "Martin" needed a helping hand or would better suited as a helper/assistant of another crazed surgeon or failed/frustrated/freak medical student (or an apprentice of Dr. Heiter) by still getting the main attention throughout the movie as it was Martin who would control the major tricks & turns all the way. The way Martin presented in the story, he was actually quite unfit or incompetent for conducting HC experiment. Moreover, the way he was collecting 'the samples' from his regular job place without grabbing any attention from any authority/anyone or consequences was absurd. The black & white photography was an interesting & nice touch by Tom Six that little bit seems to gave a Lynchian-Eraserhead vibe on Martin's inside house sequence but overall Mr. Six didn't manage or not even intended to gave an artistic look to his film as he deliberately made an over-the-top grotesque showcase of bizarre sadism. There's actually nothing added to the story or consequence of original or 1st HC story. Moreover, they presented the original as a 'film' in this sequel (where I expected & preferred a follow up of the events happened in the 1st film) and who knows...may be we'll see another psycho in the "Final sequence" watching the 'Full Sequence' and conducting a 20 people linked gruesome centipede-experiment.

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Here's my review....
I didn't read that yet (as I don't want to read too many spoilers before i see it) but are the 'cuts' in it noticable. I think there are nearly 2 and a half minutes gone.
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:54 AM
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I didn't read that yet (as I don't want to read too many spoilers before i see it) but are the 'cuts' in it noticable. I think there are nearly 2 and a half minutes gone.
Yeah....some are noticeable & some are not. Except to promote the DVD or other uncut international theatrical releases I don't see the points for making those 'cuts'.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:21 PM
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Ah yes, this is true. I don't think we'll see Cannibal Holocaust truly uncut for a long time in the UK, mostly because of the animal cruelty, which as an animal lover I do feel a little sympathetic towards.

It is worth pointing out however that the first cut of Cannibal Holocaust brought before the BBFC was already cut before the BBFC banned it.

As for the case involving Child's Play and Mikey, I sympathise with the family of James Bulger and it was a terrible thing, but it's knee-jerk ill-thought-out populism that's responsible for banning these films.

Ah, the ever-proceeding trudge of the censorious.
Couldn't agree more I'm a vegetarian so I think animal cruelty should be wiped out-however the film was made to be controvertial and upsetting and I can forget my personal view because I am 100 % against censorship-we all know the film has upsetting scenes I don't see how banning it will make any difference-no one will attempt to replicate these non simulated cruelty scenes so I think that battle is won-but if you ask me it is the cut versions of films that should be banned.

Also yes of course what happened to Jamie Bulger was horrific but it 100 % had nothing to do with Child's Play or Mikey-as you say the knee jerk banning of Mikey was completely uncalled for-they made it a scapegoat-do these people really think that banning Mikey will stop child cruelty? Reality check BBFC these people are always going to commit these crimes regardlesss what they see on TV so banning just gives a film a notoriety and makes it more popular on the black market-Sheesh there must be hundreds of films more disturbing than MIkey people can see Vulgar, Mysterious Skin, Night School, The Cook The Thief His Wife Her Lover and Alice Sweet Alice all featuring far worse child abuse than Mikey. THESE FILMS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CRIMES. I'm sorry for the rant but it really pisses me off the BBFC
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Old 11-03-2011, 09:19 PM
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I've always believed very strongly that any claim that a film/song/video game is purely responsible for causing someone to be a sociopathic criminal is absolute nonsense. People are far more complex psychologically for that to be the case. I like horror movies, I listen to rock music, I've played violent video games...I also have a degree, regularly help charities, always ensure to be polite to people and have never been troubled by the police.

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Old 11-04-2011, 12:30 AM
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Also yes of course what happened to Jamie Bulger was horrific but it 100 % had nothing to do with Child's Play or Mikey-as you say the knee jerk banning of Mikey was completely uncalled for-they made it a scapegoat-do these people really think that banning Mikey will stop child cruelty?
I always thought i was wierd that they banned Mikey (in direct reaction to the Bulger Murder) but didn't ban Childs Play 3 which was the film named by the media.
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