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Old 10-16-2004, 07:24 AM
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Old 10-16-2004, 08:01 AM
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I really enjoyed the set up, but felt that as the movie went on it got to be more and more like Ringu.

Can we get a new plotline, please?

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Old 10-16-2004, 08:33 AM
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Re: The Eye!

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I need to get my hands on some more Asian horror, this was fucking amazing!!!!

Very good movie
Others to watch, Dark water, the Grudge all three Ring movies if you ain't seen them. Has anyone seen Spiral i was thinking of buying it.
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Old 10-16-2004, 08:38 AM
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I really enjoyed the set up, but felt that as the movie went on it got to be more and more like Ringu.

Can we get a new plotline, please?

Sam
What like cheesy dated 80s horror, Friday the 13th part 56 or how about another Halloween movie. I never get bored of seeing dumb fuck teenagers getting stabbed, axed, stabbed, oh shit i already wrote stabbed.
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Old 10-16-2004, 08:41 AM
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Brilliant strawman there, thanks.

But I think that since I asked for a new plotline that would specifically exclude "cheesy dated" plots from 25 years ago, wouldn't you?

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Old 10-16-2004, 08:58 AM
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Brilliant strawman there, thanks.

But I think that since I asked for a new plotline that would specifically exclude "cheesy dated" plots from 25 years ago, wouldn't you?

Sam
Fair enough , but what was the last good horror you saw with a original story line?

Strawman??????? what does that mean?
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Old 10-16-2004, 09:07 AM
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Audition was pretty original. So was May. There are a bunch.

Of course there's nothing that's completely original, I grant you that, but there are some things that wear their influences much mmore obviously than others.

I just feel that The Eye, and a bunch of post-Ringu Asian films, have drawn too much on the plot structure of Ringu and haven't created enough on their own.

Some info about strawman arguments at: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~lilyth/strawman.html

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I don't think "The Eye" owes much to "Ringu" at all, pretty diffrent films other than originating in Asia ...
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Old 10-16-2004, 09:18 AM
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I felt that the plot - going back to someone's home town/region, to discover what happened to them/how they died, meeting a disturbed parent, trying to correct the wrong, and (as I recall in The Eye, but don't remember for sure) failing - all seem like pretty major elements of Ringu.

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the Eye , if anything was closer to sixth Sense than Ringu but true what you're saying. The grudge good as it is, the main protaginist is a carbon copy of sadako. Liked that Straw man thing.
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