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09-04-2006, 09:03 PM
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IA75...I'll attempt to explain my point of view on this one because I think you misunderstand the concern some people might have over this matter.
It was a dangerous proffession, he knew it, and he absolutely let everyone who watched know it. His antics may have seemed a little over the top, his "persona" a little hmm...crazy...but as I said before, I believe that this was for the kids...what better way to pass on a message to early learners than to more or less turn yourself into something akin to a cartoon character. He was a passionate, excitable guy...true, but if that's the only depth you saw in him, then I trust you've never seen anything outside of his shows, such as speaking on wildlife and animal conservation, the environment, poaching, overgrazing, and over-salinity, endangered species,among many other things. The guy knew what he was talking about. To call him an "idiot" based solely on what you've seen in front of a camera is a little judgemental - He wasn't just some jackass running around fucking with animals. He was hugely environmentalist and passionate about conservation in not only his own country, but others as well. His accomplishments off-camera, I think you'll find (if you care to) far exceed his "celebrity" status...the amount of charity work for the causes he believed in was huge. How many celebrities actually change the world for the better, and give us, the animals, and the planet something more than mere entertainment? Like I said, to me it's not at all about him being a celebrity. Of course, his popularity is what bought these events to our attention more, that I cannot deny. I didn't know him, I knew only of his deeds...and that's what I'm going on, not that I'm some crazy fanboy, I'm anything but. You'll notice I've not "feigned sympathy" in any of my posts...I know his family is definately well taken care of, and I for one couldn't give half a shit if I ever see one of his shows again...although have to say I think that's a huge loss for kids. Personally I'm a little insulted that you seem to be insinuating that anyone who acknowledges what a huge loss this is (again, to more than just entertainment value) is an idiot just because you yourself don't share their point of view. I think the main point here is it's kind of uncool to bring up negativity at this time...a little like rocking up to someones funeral you knew very little about and laughing, saying "who gives a shit, he was just a fuckwit anyway"...I guess in short, mind your manners, son. Anyway, that's my point...not really going to bother with anything further on this thread, I'd like to avoid any involvement of myself in this thread (hopefully not) turning into a joke.
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Over the years, this 'intrusion' into lethal wildlife has become commonplace and even reckless - but Irwin was always making insight and education the priority over exploitation (debate that if you want). It can't be helped if his manner proved endearing to millions, and that it seems sad when a man dies and a link between animals most of us won't ever set eyes upon is gone forever. I like conservationists, and his passing is a loss to the planet. There is further information on the circumstances surrounding his death here:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Irwin#_note-0
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09-05-2006, 04:54 AM
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I was bored of this story after ten minutes, but as an australian, I have to keep hereing about it, even here, which is sad. mass quantitys of innocent people die every day in pointless wars, but we don't see that posted here?
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09-05-2006, 05:20 AM
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as was stated earlier: it was a freak accident. people liked him because he was a celebrity, but also because he gave a shit about something. he didnt whine uselessly about tibet or human rights and then do nothing, he was an active participant in his agenda. he could be irritating, yes, but he was a good guy. do you think they would do the same thing if this happened to Jeff Corwin? no, because he is a jackass with no redeaming qualities. it kills me that epopel have been talkign about this like he was some clueless retard that went around poking animals with a pointy stick until they lunged at him. he was an expert. people could call me stupid and reckless on a very different level for going through a computer's registry and manually chinging keys, or deleting files from the system32 folder (i know, compplete nerd reference, but apt) which is pretty dangerous for the operating ssystem, and it has bitten me in the ass in the past, but i know the risks and I know what im doing because i am a professional that has been doing it for years.
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09-05-2006, 05:40 AM
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It's not the person, per-se, it's the work that they do and the message that they send. So if someone who dedicates their life to making the planet a more beautiful place by understanding nature or arousing the compassion of human beings for other human beings, fuckin-a yeah, I'm going to say that we've lost a good person. But that wasn't my point... My point was that everybody who had posted up until... had posted their remorse. Don't you think it was a little out of place, a little disrepectful to everyone in the thread to interject a random blurb of nastiness into a thread of people showing sorrow for someone they respected? I know that we do shit like that here all of the time, but there's something about mourning a person's passing that makes it a little more personal and leaves less room for being disrespectful. My other point was, no, I don't expect anyone to mourn or even care about the loss of someon they don't know personally. However, I would have thought that you would have had the smarts to say to yourself, "Maybe I shouldn't say that at this point, because it seems that people are really affected by this."
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09-05-2006, 06:06 AM
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I know it will always happen, but I was seriously shocked at just how quickly people were making jokes about it on the net etc. Within minutes of it being put onto the BBC news website, I had people trying to paste me jokes from various websites (I wont mention but you can probably guess).
I think its really sad that people do that, actually I think its pretty disgusting. Some people might think of a joke about something like this, but they would keep it to themselves and know it was harsh to even think of it, but the people that think of it, and then tell it online or create pictures etc of it worries me about our society...
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09-05-2006, 07:09 AM
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Sounds a bit unrealistic.
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09-05-2006, 07:51 AM
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obviously he knew it was there. that doesn't mean swimming over the top it wouldn't piss it off. besides, he's been pissing of crocs for years, maybe one of them sent it a soundwave?
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09-05-2006, 11:59 AM
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My opinion aint swayed... but I'll drop it because everyone's so adamant on the topic.
So I forfeit.
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