Spider-Man 3

[persuasian70]

Originally posted by lovecraft
actually I think Jessica Simpson would make a great black cat.

I think Jessica has the right look to play Black Cat, but I think she lacks the acting chops to pull it off. I think she might also have a hard time with the acrobatic aspects, as she looks to be somewhat clumsey.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by persuasian70
I think Jessica has the right look to play Black Cat, but I think she lacks the acting chops to pull it off. I think she might also have a hard time with the acrobatic aspects, as she looks to be somewhat clumsey.

My thoughts exactly. I agree with Eisha Cutherburt though, she's do a good job once she's a bit older.

[The_Return]

Originally posted by Sick_As_Fuck
McAdams would be great as Black Cat. She's both hot and a good actress. However, I hope they don't start introducing too many damn characters. All I'd need for this third one is Sandman and Venom [at the very end]. Then for the fourth film, if Harry hasn't been killed off yet, have Venom as the obvious main baddy, Harry as Green Goblin #2 just for a brief fight, then at the end introduce Connors as Lizard for the fifth film. Could work.

Comeon, did you see the ending of #2? How could they not have either Hobgoblin or Green Goblin 2? Personally I think Sandman is the one that should be eliminated, would be best with just Hobgoblin and a taste of Venom. Oh well, I cant imagine Raimi disapointing us no matter who or what is in the film:D

[persuasian70]

Yeah I think that the Hobgoblin will have a part in the series based on the end of Spiderman 2. Although I would've been happy if they left him out as he is just a copy of the Green Goblin except with improved weapons. The only aspect that would make it interesting would be how it affects the friendship between Harry and Peter, although the friendship is already strained due to MJ. I for one would love to see the Sandman. I always liked the character, I also think Kraven would be cool though. With that being said, I can't wait to see Venom on the screen. He could and should look amazing with what they can do FX these days.

I still think that a love triangle between MJ, Spiderman, and Black Cat would add some needed tension in the relationship department.

[Sick_As_Fuck]

Originally posted by The_Return
Comeon, did you see the ending of #2? How could they not have either Hobgoblin or Green Goblin 2? Personally I think Sandman is the one that should be eliminated, would be best with just Hobgoblin and a taste of Venom. Oh well, I cant imagine Raimi disapointing us no matter who or what is in the film:D

I agree, and I don't even know too much about Sandman myself, but he's already obviously confirmed and having him, another Goblin, and Venom all in one movie would be a bad move IMO. Add the symbiote in the mix and that's way too much going on in a 2-hour span. We don't want this series to go the route of Batman 3 and 4 now do we?

[Prelude95Si]

A lot of thoughts going on here.

First off, no Sinister-Six, too many villains doesn't work in a movie regardless of the length.

Jessica Simpon would be a horrible Black Cat in suit b/c she does not have the slightly muscual physic that Black Cat has.

I think to bring in a new goblin would be too soon unless they plan on ending the series with #3. I say that b/c The way the movies are going it would be perfect closure to the realtionship with Harry and Peter as well as closure to the goblin legacy. But if Rami does it right I suppose a new goblin could work in #3.

Sandman is a lame villain and I really don't care for him as a character, I don't see how he will affect the life of Peter the way GG and Doc Ock did. As far as i know Sandman does not have any ties to Peter's past or personal life in the comics. But visualy he will look bad ass!

I think that Electro might be a cool villain to see on the screen, especailly if they do the Ultimate Electro.

[Prelude95Si]

Church on Sandman and Confirms Venom
Source: MSN Movies April 11, 2006

MSN Movies chatted with Thomas Haden Church about playing Sandman in Spider-Man 3, an interview in which he talked about the story and confirmed Venom is in the film:

"[Director Sam Raimi] and I started having really involved sessions about who the guy was," Church says. "Clearly, it's taken from the fourth issue of 'Spider-Man,' which was when Sandman was introduced and which I now have framed on my wall."

Church is still sworn to secrecy regarding plot details (he might want to consider moonlighting as a CIA agent), but he wants to let fans know they won't be disappointed.

"I'm overwhelmed every time I'm around Sam," Church says. "He's been showing me [stuff] since the beginning of last summer. 'This is what we are going to be doing in this sequence, this is what Spider-Man is going to be doing and this is what Venom is going to be doing.' It is a massive, massive process."

[lovecraft]

You know what I want to see? A villian who is bad because he is bad. In SM I, we have the Norman who went nuts because of the formula and in SM II, Otto was taken over partly by the intelligent arms. So they both sort of came to their senses at the end of their stories. I want a villian who delights in being bad. Hopefully Venom will fit the bill. I think Sandman might but he is not as cool as Venom.

And I still think Jessica Simpson would make a great Black Cat. SHe has a good body, but she can't act her way out of a paper bag. Maybe if she kept quiet the whole movie.

[Prelude95Si]

Originally posted by lovecraft
You know what I want to see? A villian who is bad because he is bad. In SM I, we have the Norman who went nuts because of the formula and in SM II, Otto was taken over partly by the intelligent arms. So they both sort of came to their senses at the end of their stories. I want a villian who delights in being bad. Hopefully Venom will fit the bill. I think Sandman might but he is not as cool as Venom.

And I still think Jessica Simpson would make a great Black Cat. SHe has a good body, but she can't act her way out of a paper bag. Maybe if she kept quiet the whole movie.

Norman never truly came to his senses even in the movie b/c at the very end he was still the Goblin, and really all the formula did was give Norman super strength and release the evil side of Norman, a side that Norman was too afraid to let out. But in the comics the Goblin was the most relentless villian Spidy ever faced until Venom came along. But even then Norman came back from the dead and still went after Spidy.

If you read the comics at all you will find a villian in the rouge gallery named Carnage. Carnage is the off-spring of the Venom symbiote. The Carnage symboite is on a serial killer named Keltus Casedy. Casedy lives for complete and total death and murder, he kills people in the most gursome ways possible. Because of the character of Venom it is not likely that Venom will meet your expectations b/c Venom is a hero villian, as Brock he feels a need to fight injustice and protect the innosent. But Brock also feels a deep hatered for Spider-Man for ruining his career and the symbiote hates Spider-Man for rejecting it. If it came down to it, Venom would let Spider-Man go if it ment innocent lives were at stake. In fact just read the second part of Carnage's first appearance, Amazing #362, Venom actually teams with Spidy to stop Venom.

It is b/c of the relationship that Venom and Carnage have that I have always thought that the only good 2 villian movie would be with Venom and Carnage b/c they make sense to put them together.

Also if this movie is truly going to explore the dark side of power then Venom cannot show-up until the very end b/c Peter needs to get the suit, use it, become power hungery, and then reject it and go through a self refelection scene about how he's become bad and thats not him and then it will end with, "With great power...."

[lovecraft]

Originally posted by Prelude95Si
Norman never truly came to his senses even in the movie b/c at the very end he was still the Goblin, and really all the formula did was give Norman super strength and release the evil side of Norman, a side that Norman was too afraid to let out.

I disagree, I think he came to his senses when he was impaled on his glider. He told Peter not to tell Harry. I think he did not want Harry to live with what Norman did as the Goblin.

When Venom first debuted fully in issue ASM 300. He hated Spidey, no drugs, no mechanical arms. Eddie and the symbiotic alien just plain did not like Peter. THis is what I was getting at, I guess. He's bad. He would have done anything to get at Peter even threaten Aunt May, which he did. I am hoping we see this in the movie series at some point.

This is what makes Spidey the best, going at someone he has no chance of beating i.e. the Juggernaut and Firelord.