Political Opinion, so bare with me.........

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
So what's your point?

He coulda moved 'em, they might be hidden.

Why do so many people want to jump to the negative conclusion, like I just said in my previous post I remember just months after the invasion people were saying the same thing you have to give stuff time. The soldiers aren't just over there looking 24/7 they also have to worry about bombs,bullets going by their heads ect. ect.

Oh...But we HAVE found (and destroyed) very small caches of chemical weapons, and components that can be used to make WMDs...And these very small caches, have been found in some very LARGE places (many underground)...There's no way that there wasn't much more that had been removed before we got there...You don't build an entire candy store to sell one candy bar ;)

[bloodrayne]

BTW...I just wanted to say that I love the fact that we can have this discussion (debate) in a civil and intelligent manner...Perhaps things are changing at Horror.com...













Nah...I seriously doubt it...:p :D

[HappyCamper]

There will always be terrorism/terrorists, even now that Sadam is out of power, even as Al-Qaeda begins to crumble apart. Terrorism is a war that has to be fought, but it's a war with no end. Terrorism has been around forever. The Romans slaughetered Christians, the Nazi's slaughtered the Jews, Whites put blacks into slavery, the KKK burn crosses, the IRA set off car bombs. These are all forms of terrorism. There will always be hatred, and that hatred will always breed forms of terrorism and terrorist.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
Oh...But we HAVE found (and destroyed) very small caches of chemical weapons, and components that can be used to make WMDs...And these very small caches, have been found in some very LARGE places (many underground)...There's no way that there wasn't much more that had been removed before we got there...You don't build an entire candy store to sell one candy bar ;)

Now that I didn't hear(I admit..I don't watch the news as much as I should) but until they pull a nuc out in front of the CNN cameras everybody's going to be stuck on the ''oil'' thing.

[AUSTIN316426808]

Originally posted by HappyCamper
There will always be terrorism/terrorists, even now that Sadam is out of power, even as Al-Qaeda begins to crumble apart. Terrorism is a war that has to be fought, but it's a war with no end. Terrorism has been around forever. The Romans slaughetered Christians, the Nazi's slaughtered the Jews, Whites put blacks into slavery, the KKK burn crosses, the IRA set off car bombs. These are all forms of terrorism. There will always be hatred, and that hatred will always breed forms of terrorism and terrorist.

This maybe true but when Iraq has it's government in place and ready to take over with a military then it will be much easier to ex-spell terrorist from their country whenever they arise.

[HappyCamper]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
This maybe true but when Iraq has it's government in place and ready to take over with a military then it will be much easier to ex-spell terrorist from their country whenever they arise.

I definitely agree with you on that, unfortunately it is still going to be a long time before Iraq is going to be capable of that, on their own. And I do agree, it would be bad to just leave the country as it is currently. I just pray and hope that our troops will be safe and be able to come home as soon as possible.

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Now that I didn't hear(I admit..I don't watch the news as much as I should) but until they pull a nuc out in front of the CNN cameras everybody's going to be stuck on the ''oil'' thing.

Like I said...Only very SMALL caches, we blew up a few barrels, stuff like that...Apparently not very worthy or worth talking about much...Especially if you're trying to hold onto the rhetoric that 'There's NOTHING there' :rolleyes:

As for the 'oil' thing...I don't wanna even go INTO that...Let's just say that it has to do with the 'Oil For Food' program, that was SUPPOSED to be monitored by the UN (in which they failed MISERABLY), most of the profits were being funneled to Sadam (as well as others) and NOT to the people for whom it was intended, so we suggested that WE control the program, since the UN obviously couldn't handle it...And, that caused us to look like we were trying to 'take over the oil'...I KNOW I'm gonna get called out on that one, because there's a WHOLE lot more to it, that's just my quick rundown on it in a nutshell....So, for those who wish to FULLY enlighten me on the finer aspects of this subject, I already know, I just don't wanna drag it all out here...There are MANY facets to this particular debate...

[zwoti]

Originally posted by bloodrayne
BTW...I just wanted to say that I love the fact that we can have this discussion (debate) in a civil and intelligent manner...Perhaps things are changing at Horror.com...

hmm politics....



*walks out of the thread forever

[bloodrayne]

Originally posted by zwoti
hmm politics....



*walks out of the thread forever

Nope...Nothing's changed...lol

[EXTR3MIST]

I do agree that what THAT GROUP of soldiers did was wrong, but you don't see US soldiers putting beheadings on the internet for everyone to see. One of the rules of war is to not torture your POWs, but Al Queda, or whoever just randomly takes a US citiczen or a citizen of another nation and beheads them on the internet. Now that is breaking the rules of war and that is so fucking wrong to begin with

Since the notorious beheading videos were faked, could this move not be interpreted as simple propaganda for the Iraqi militants?

Granted, the victims were still killed, but not in the footage available on the internet - the casual sawing off of live heads with kitchen knives is so ridiculous it takes only a casual glance to realise the hostages have been killed under different (probably more "humane") circumstances.

One must conclude the makers of the videos - most of them appeared to have the same production team - wanted to convey a more barbaric and fearsome militia to the rest of the world.